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Tebby617 #1 Posted 29 March 2018 - 12:51 AM

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Point n click 450-650 damage per shot with HE on the front of a Conqueror, plus virtually impenetrable armour. crapwhy don't you give them an AI auto-aim system so all they have to do is drive and click.

dimethylcadmium #2 Posted 29 March 2018 - 01:04 AM

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You are obviously fighting them incorrectly. Like a true unicumTM you should let your teammates take the hits, while you farm him on his reload.

 

+ dont be afraid to dab the 2 key, its their worst nightmare


Edited by dimethylcadmium, 29 March 2018 - 01:05 AM.


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View Postdimethylcadmium, on 29 March 2018 - 02:04 AM, said:

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So lazy...



KillingJoker #4 Posted 29 March 2018 - 01:21 AM

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More than a joke, they are a KillingJoke!

 



NOOBnaKOOB #5 Posted 29 March 2018 - 01:22 AM

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type4 slow as Edited,20 sec reload, when they press 2 key all that armour is butter. worst tier 9 heavy... can work in some situations i guess, but against good players its swiss cheese.

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XxKuzkina_MatxX #6 Posted 29 March 2018 - 01:29 AM

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View Postdimethylcadmium, on 29 March 2018 - 02:04 AM, said:

+ dont be afraid to dab the 2 key, its their worst nightmare

 

Not really, we can bounce that too! The real pain is tier 10 TDs :)

Balc0ra #7 Posted 29 March 2018 - 02:57 AM

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No no.... This is a joke

Spoiler

 

Type 4 and 5 are just dirty. Slight difference since you don't laugh at the Type 5.



Ceeb #8 Posted 29 March 2018 - 05:30 AM

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Edited

 

​Ok, Edited posted  noted... I'll change my mind and say the Type 4/5 and 268-4 are balanced machines and add to the flow of the game.

 

 


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luumu #9 Posted 29 March 2018 - 07:03 AM

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View PostNOOBnaKOOB, on 29 March 2018 - 12:22 AM, said:

type4 slow asEdited ,20 sec reload, when they press 2 key all that armour is butter. worst tier 9 heavy... can work in some situations i guess, but against good players its swiss cheese.

 

By far the worst T9 tank i have ever player. 


Edited by Asklepi0s, 29 March 2018 - 02:36 PM.


PUNISHER989_EU #10 Posted 29 March 2018 - 07:31 AM

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Yea the land arty makes the art of side scraping and actually tanking a painful process. 

Lord_Edge #11 Posted 29 March 2018 - 08:14 AM

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View PostTebby617, on 29 March 2018 - 12:51 AM, said:

Point n click 450-650 damage per shot with HE on the front of a Conqueror, plus virtually impenetrable armour. crapwhy don't you give them an AI auto-aim system so all they have to do is drive and click.

 

Firstly it's not point and click if it's done that much damage to you, they've specifically aimed for a thinner area of armour to do that much.  Also if tanks are shooting you in the front try going hull down in the conq, it works better that way.

 

Secondly you're comparing a gold spamming Type to an AP spamming conq, it's not a fair comparison, I.E if you reverse that the Type's does 300-500 damage per shot and it's armour becomes useless while the the conq can do a guaranteed 700-900 damage before the type can reload (1100-1300 for a super conq) I know which one I would rather be in in that situation lol.



jeltex #12 Posted 29 March 2018 - 08:25 AM

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I think the KV-2 is a bigger joke a tier 6 thats accurate enough to do 500 dmg to the front of a heavily armoured tier 8 from 300 yrds  and not even be spotted is just silly.

Etre_ #13 Posted 29 March 2018 - 08:28 AM

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View Postdimethylcadmium, on 29 March 2018 - 01:04 AM, said:

You are obviously fighting them incorrectly. Like a true unicumTM you should let your teammates take the hits, while you farm him on his reload.

 

+ dont be afraid to dab the 2 key, its their worst nightmare

 

You won't believe how many times I had to play the sacrificial goat because others with more HP left are afraid of taking one shot to unlock the situation. 

 

It's like when they see a Type5 their brains melt.



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View Postjeltex, on 29 March 2018 - 08:25 AM, said:

I think the KV-2 is a bigger joke a tier 6 thats accurate enough to do 500 dmg to the front of a heavily armoured tier 8 from 300 yrds  and not even be spotted is just silly.

 

The gun on the KV-2 is an issue for sure but it is partly balanced by having penetrable armour and relatively low HP. 

 

The problem with the Type 4 and 5 is that they have the whole package. Armour, HP and a stupid gun. It's the combination of everything that breaks them



XxKuzkina_MatxX #15 Posted 29 March 2018 - 08:57 AM

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View PostLord_Edge, on 29 March 2018 - 09:14 AM, said:

 

Firstly it's not point and click if it's done that much damage to you, they've specifically aimed for a thinner area of armour to do that much.  Also if tanks are shooting you in the front try going hull down in the conq, it works better that way.

 

Secondly you're comparing a gold spamming Type to an AP spamming conq, it's not a fair comparison, I.E if you reverse that the Type's does 300-500 damage per shot and it's armour becomes useless while the the conq can do a guaranteed 700-900 damage before the type can reload (1100-1300 for a super conq) I know which one I would rather be in in that situation lol.

 

That's a very bad piece of advice right there :)

 

Forcing a type to shoot your turret will probably results in damaged gun, splashing the turret roof armor and dead crew members might as well let him shoot your front plate!

 

A type shooting the turret front of an E5, just the front not the cupola, will wreck the tank in terms of modules and crew same thing with the conq. or the S.C.


Edited by XxKuzkina_MatxX, 29 March 2018 - 09:01 AM.


besinnungslos #16 Posted 29 March 2018 - 09:08 AM

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I always kinda laughed at those HE shooting monsters and didn't get why people are complaining. Its slow, low dpm and inaccurate.
A few days ago I got the O-Ho and started to use the Derp gun and hoooly f... This stuff breaks the game. Not because it is good, but because people are just idiots. Everyone is trying to sidescrape me, wants to go hull down, shows his tracks or even peaks on me showing me the side armor.
Just try to avoid those tanks, kill everything around them first with higher DPM and win. But no, people want to brawl against a Derp Gun...

clixor #17 Posted 29 March 2018 - 09:12 AM

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I'm grinding the Type4 atm, and, bear with me, it's only because i basically have not much else to grind. So i'm doing my doubles in it and that's it.

 

Let's not even talk about the stock gun, because the derp is where it's at. So let's talk armor first, if you are toptier, you go heavy corner. Type's amor will hold reasonable well against lower tiers (who don't know the weakspots on type4), but if you go heavy corner you ALWAYS will meet enemies tier9s who can easily pen you. Serb forbid if you don't have a team, because with a 18 - 20s reload you will just be swarmed. gg.

 

If you are in a tier10 battle, you meet enemies tier10 heavies in heavy corner who will even more easily pen you and the derp will in general do less dmg to them as they have more armor as well. gg.

 

So the derp, yeah, nice to hit paper targets but it takes great noobness to stand stationary with a type aiming at you. And it doesnt take a derp to do well against a noobteam, 

 

All in all the armor on types is hugely overrated, it's slow, it has bad (and unreliable) dpm. Granted, it's fun to shoot hulldown targets, and ocassionialy oneshot a light or cdc or whatever. But that's it, not gamebreaking, and certainly not OP.



Lord_Edge #18 Posted 29 March 2018 - 09:26 AM

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View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 29 March 2018 - 08:57 AM, said:

That's a very bad piece of advice right there :)

No it really isn't, I have played numerous games in and against Types and one of the worst situations for them is against a hull down opponent, doing 200-300 damage every reload when you're being riddled is a one way trip to the garage.  Yes the type can damage the gun and knock crew out/etc but that doesn't really hurt when you can autoaim pen the front of the tank with gold.  To make it even better just move slightly while reloading as hitting a moving turret at range with a Type is pretty hard in the first place.



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View Postclixor, on 29 March 2018 - 10:12 AM, said:

I'm grinding the Type4 atm, and, bear with me, it's only because i basically have not much else to grind. So i'm doing my doubles in it and that's it.

 

Let's not even talk about the stock gun, because the derp is where it's at. So let's talk armor first, if you are toptier, you go heavy corner. Type's amor will hold reasonable well against lower tiers (who don't know the weakspots on type4), but if you go heavy corner you ALWAYS will meet enemies tier9s who can easily pen you. Serb forbid if you don't have a team, because with a 18 - 20s reload you will just be swarmed. gg.

 

If you are in a tier10 battle, you meet enemies tier10 heavies in heavy corner who will even more easily pen you and the derp will in general do less dmg to them as they have more armor as well. gg.

 

So the derp, yeah, nice to hit paper targets but it takes great noobness to stand stationary with a type aiming at you. And it doesnt take a derp to do well against a noobteam, 

 

All in all the armor on types is hugely overrated, it's slow, it has bad (and unreliable) dpm. Granted, it's fun to shoot hulldown targets, and ocassionialy oneshot a light or cdc or whatever. But that's it, not gamebreaking, and certainly not OP.

 

Thats the Type 4; its still broken but its not particularly great.

 

Type 5 on other hand, is much nastier and too strong.



xtrem3x #20 Posted 29 March 2018 - 11:26 AM

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The Type 4 is nothing. I took one apart in my Type 59 the other day, including shooting him in the front when I had to. The 2 key really works well against the Type 4.

 

The Type 5 can be immune to the 2 key though when facing it frontally depending on what you're driving.






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