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Poll: M53/55 -> T92 - Does it make sense? (28 members have cast votes)

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Does it make sense?

  1. Yes (8 votes [28.57%])

    Percentage of vote: 28.57%

  2. No (20 votes [71.43%])

    Percentage of vote: 71.43%

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cicir0x #1 Posted 30 March 2018 - 02:26 PM

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Hello everybody, I just unlocked T92 but actually I don't know if it makes sense to get it since (from stats) DPM is quite similar and the rest like mobility, dispersion, aiming time and RoF are way better on M53. Not to mention that M53 is a tier 9. What you say?

BKatt #2 Posted 30 March 2018 - 02:33 PM

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Stay at the tier 9. Only get the tier 10 if/when its on sale.

OIias_of_Sunhillow #3 Posted 30 March 2018 - 02:35 PM

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M53/M55, is a far superior artillery piece.

 

 



Homer_J #4 Posted 30 March 2018 - 02:41 PM

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If you want an arty to play in randoms then it doesn't make much sense to downgrade to the T92 unless you want something which will sometimes earn you a few bonds.

Shaade_Silentpaw #5 Posted 30 March 2018 - 02:46 PM

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The only thing that would tempt me to buy the T92 HMC is the ability to do grand battles - which may or may not make some campaign missions a bit easier, that being the only reason I even have an SPG.

HundeWurst #6 Posted 30 March 2018 - 02:47 PM

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No it does not. The M53/55 was also developed and used for a rather long timeperiod after the T92. T92 is a true WWII SPG.

M53/55 is a Cold War SPG.

 

But adding a 1300 alpha SPG on tier 9 is by no means a good idea. Its actually a stupid idea. So I want it to stay like its currently is.



psychobear #7 Posted 30 March 2018 - 03:43 PM

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View Postcicir0x, on 30 March 2018 - 03:26 PM, said:

M53/55 -> T92 - Does it make sense?

 

Arty doesn't make sense. As a whole class.

Edited by psychobear, 30 March 2018 - 03:43 PM.


VeryRisky #8 Posted 30 March 2018 - 03:51 PM

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T92  can do some missions.   M53/M55 is good for winning battles.

krismorgan #9 Posted 30 March 2018 - 04:06 PM

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View PostOIias_of_Sunhillow, on 30 March 2018 - 01:35 PM, said:

M53/M55, is a far superior artillery piece.

 

 

 

as above

Tankyouverymuch2 #10 Posted 30 March 2018 - 04:10 PM

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The T92 is fine gun-wise, but when comparing its mobility to the M53/55, it falls way too far behind in terms of map versatility... It needs to be faster to fit the line.

 

ALL artillery in the US line are very mobile... The T92 is an oddball, if WG ever decides to look at it closely, they'll probably find a replacement...a faster replacement.

 

I don't think a Foch 155/FV215b/Deathstar treatment is worth it, unless they don't find an arty with the same gun caliber, because that 240mm gun is what makes it so special, much like the Deathstar with its gun.



ellua #11 Posted 30 March 2018 - 04:42 PM

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Not only M53/55 -> T92 but M53/55 -> all other arty units in WoT. M53/55 is arty masterpiece, it's best one in game.

VeryRisky #12 Posted 30 March 2018 - 11:18 PM

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I would like to know how the hell I am supposed to play the T92 because I thought I had got the hang of winning in SPGs:

 

Piggy Battles WR
T92 HMC 61 42.6%
M53/M55  406 54.9%
M40/M43 243 56.0%
M12 200 59.5%
M44 707 58.3%
 
I'm not entirely sure what explains this.


HassenderZerhacker #13 Posted 31 March 2018 - 06:49 AM

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View PostVeryRisky, on 30 March 2018 - 11:18 PM, said:

I would like to know how the hell I am supposed to play the T92 because I thought I had got the hang of winning in SPGs:

 

Piggy Battles WR
T92 HMC 61 42.6%
M53/M55  406 54.9%
M40/M43 243 56.0%
M12 200 59.5%
M44 707 58.3%
 
I'm not entirely sure what explains this.

 

ah, maybe the T92 simulates how a german arty (tier 8+) behaves...

skero #14 Posted 31 March 2018 - 10:37 AM

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View PostVeryRisky, on 30 March 2018 - 11:18 PM, said:

I would like to know how the hell I am supposed to play the T92 because I thought I had got the hang of winning in SPGs:

 

Piggy Battles WR
T92 HMC 61 42.6%
M53/M55  406 54.9%
M40/M43 243 56.0%
M12 200 59.5%
M44 707 58.3%
 
I'm not entirely sure what explains this.

 

Are you kidding?

 

You played only 61 battles with T92. I played over 300 had 51% WR and I made a lot of mistakes.

 

BTW in your most played tier X which is 141 battles T110E5 your winrate is 41,84.. So I would not make many decisions here..



Balc0ra #15 Posted 31 March 2018 - 11:01 AM

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View PostVeryRisky, on 30 March 2018 - 03:51 PM, said:

T92  can do some missions.   M53/M55 is good for winning battles.

 

Depends. M53.. as with the stock gun can do more reliably. As most of them are 100% stun focused. Tbh it's the best SPG around if you want to farm stuns, not damage for missions. Tho it was good for SPG-15 to before they changed it. Now you def need a pure tier X game to pull that off for the Obj vs just farming stun assist with the tier 9 gun.

 

View Postcicir0x, on 30 March 2018 - 02:26 PM, said:

Hello everybody, I just unlocked T92 but actually I don't know if it makes sense to get it since (from stats) DPM is quite similar and the rest like mobility, dispersion, aiming time and RoF are way better on M53. Not to mention that M53 is a tier 9. What you say?

 

Depends on how you look at it. Sure the DPM is the same. But higher caliber and more HE pen. So you get more out of it most times, and longer average stun times if your focus is still missions that needs damage, or damage and stuns.

Malakhi75 #16 Posted 31 March 2018 - 05:58 PM

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T92 is better when used in more static gameplay modes.  It needs time and patience to get into position and to start knocking HP off groups or 'in cover' enemies.  In faster modes like randoms faster moving and firing arty with reduced alpha work far better.  You can move around the map to maximise the accuracy and adapt as the map/battle develops.  So T92 for static/slow battles and M55 for the faster paced battles.  I kinda enjoy the T92, even though I do pretty badly in it.   Just enjoy the huge stuns and occassional atomic strike when it pens. Other than that, its not a game winner or carrier by any means, but then what arty is?

NUKLEAR_SLUG #17 Posted 31 March 2018 - 06:25 PM

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T92 was good back when it still had those monster AP rounds but as HE only the M53/55 is far superior.

WindSplitter1 #18 Posted 31 March 2018 - 07:26 PM

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View Postellua, on 30 March 2018 - 03:42 PM, said:

Not only M53/55 -> T92 but M53/55 -> all other arty units in WoT. M53/55 is arty masterpiece, it's best one in game.

 

It is curious to say the least, that you think like this, but still want it to be removed.

I like your ability to compartimentalize. You do not see this often.

 

+1



Sfinski #19 Posted 31 March 2018 - 07:27 PM

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They are arties, doesnt make any sense to have them. 

VeryRisky #20 Posted 31 March 2018 - 10:32 PM

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View Postskero, on 31 March 2018 - 09:37 AM, said:

 

Are you kidding?

 

You played only 61 battles with T92. I played over 300 had 51% WR and I made a lot of mistakes.

 

BTW in your most played tier X which is 141 battles T110E5 your winrate is 41,84.. So I would not make many decisions here..

 

Sure but I can see why My M103 and T95 gameplay might not hold up with the E5 and E4 which have to carry as top tier.   However Arty is a support class and my WR up to T9 should show that I know how to support with arty, but I can't do it with the T92 .....yet.   

 

Perhaps the fact that I had a couple of stun-a-lot missions enabled (now completed) messed with my play.   I will give it some more games at some point.







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