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Barking_Irons #1 Posted 30 March 2018 - 09:57 PM

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I'm looking into upgrading my rig, I know it's a bad time with gpu and ram prices but my current setup is  ancient,  I've been putting off upgrading for years due to weddings, mortgages and children,  I can't handle the crapness that is my pc anymore.  I've been researching for the past week and have different builds that I may go for. 

 

I mainly play wot and want to be able to play at 1920x1080 on high,  around the magic 60fps,  and will want to do some video editing.  

So I'm asking you guys if you have the same or similar cpu and gpu setup,  what settings and fps I could expect in wot? 

I need cpu, motherboard, ram, gpu, but I'm just after advice on the cpu gpu. 

 

Ryzen 3 1300x.

Gtx 1050ti

8gb ram

This is the minimum spec I'm thinking, if this does what I stated above I'd be happy as it comes in at under £500.

 

I5 8400 or 8600k (£50 Difference, is it worth it?) 

Gtx1060 6gb

16gb ram

 

Ryzen 5 1600x

Gtx 1060 6gb

16gb ram

 

Thoughts? 

 

Thanks in advance. 

 

 

 

 



Ochso #2 Posted 30 March 2018 - 10:40 PM

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My opinion .(only)

 

GPU : as you will be running at 1920x1080  any gpu with over 4GB will be wasted for the game.  One rig I have has a 3Gb 1060 in it.  and runs fine on max at 2k. ( So in theory a potential saving there)

 

CPUs : all much of a muchness  The K will mean Overclocking easier.  Of course the more cores the better for editing ( in theory).

 

RAM : the more the merrier,  especially If you are editing .  Also hand in hand with clock speeds of memory. 

 

PSU will be very important. Higher end cards need clean rails. And lots of air ( ergo the box will need to suit)

 

And research which Mobos  are best suited to Ram, Cpu & chipset you are going to go for. they do differ a lot.

 

SSDs  always a bonus even if just for OS.

 

Good luck

 

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Balc0ra #3 Posted 30 March 2018 - 11:15 PM

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One of my rigs has a Geforce 1030 Ti OC with 2 gigs of ram, a 5 year old 6 core AMD and 12 gigs of system ram. It runs WOT on 1080p on high settings at 50 to 60 fps. I suspect your 1050ti with a Rysen 3 will do just fine even, as you said it was the min spec you wanted. Then again that's for WOT. If you want to run other things.. well.

Edited by Balc0ra, 30 March 2018 - 11:16 PM.


OIias_of_Sunhillow #4 Posted 30 March 2018 - 11:49 PM

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View PostBarking_Irons, on 30 March 2018 - 08:57 PM, said:

I mainly play wot and want to be able to play at 1920x1080 on high,  around the magic 60fps,  and will want to do some video editing.  

So I'm asking you guys if you have the same or similar cpu and gpu setup,  what settings and fps I could expect in wot? 

 

 

I picked my (new)pc, purely on what it would do for me, monitor wise.

 

I wanted to go for 3440x1440 resolution, so combined these two; https://www.laptopsd...g/version.asp?  refsource=LDadwords&refsource=Ldadwords&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI87K8n_OC1wIVkxXTCh1yDg3TEAYYASABEgIIBfD_BwE  (oik..!)

https://www.box.co.uk/Cube-Tension-VR-The-Ultimate-VR-Ready-Ga_2093593.html

 

I also wanted to get ready for VR gaming, I've now got the Oculus Rift.

 

I can honestly say, the graphics, simply put, are out of this world. With the new graphics engine at WG, it's an absolute pleasure playing WoT lately.

 

Would your  GTX1050ti, outstrip my GTX 1070 ?

I'm currently getting 90-110 fps, with a 20-30 ping.

 

(This is the first time, in like, ever, I've had a pc that can bat anything the internet throws at me.)

 


Edited by OIias_of_Sunhillow, 30 March 2018 - 11:51 PM.


Barking_Irons #5 Posted 31 March 2018 - 12:50 PM

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Ok, thanks for the replies everyone, that pretty much confirms that the minimum Ryzen build will do what I want it to.  
Now I just need to decide if I want to go a bit better for some other games or keep it cheap and go for that one.
(case is a HAF 922 and psu is an over kill corsair tx850 wich I got a few years ago in preparation for a cross fire monster build that never happened due to life)

Negativvv #6 Posted 31 March 2018 - 01:58 PM

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I can run WoT in medium detail in 1920 res in a £400 refurbished PC. Around 60 fps and at that sort of resolution you might not even notice much more detail anyway...

 

It's an old i5 3470, 8gb ram and a 1050 with 2gb. Main issue is the HDD slows it down when loading stuff up. 

 

Main rig is an even older i5 2500k (OCed however) with a 1070 and it runs WoT in 2560 res with only AA dropped to Max rather than U L T R A. 

 

I don't feel WoT or it's ship counterpart is particularly system intensive when 8 year old PCs with a few upgrades run it beautifully. 

 

 



xtrem3x #7 Posted 01 April 2018 - 04:18 PM

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Go for a 1060, that way if new graphics options come out you won't be in this position again in a year or 2 time. Plus you'll be in a better position for other games


Edited by xtram3x, 01 April 2018 - 04:18 PM.


HassenderZerhacker #8 Posted 02 April 2018 - 07:15 PM

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the monitor determines your video needs, no need for more than 60 Hz if your monitor doesn't support more.

a 1050ti or 1060 card will be able to handle most games of today and most that will appear in the next 2-3 years, but the 1060 is 40% more powerful than the 1050 and supports more technologies, so go for the 1060.

 

video editing depends mainly on the cpu, forget the ryzen 3.

 

8 GB or 16 GB you won't feel much of a difference there, 8 GB and you can just add another 8 GB bank later if you feel the need.

 

however, you will want to use a SSD for the system, 120 GB minimum

 

regarding cpu and gpu, I always look on the following two sites to see which models give me now the biggest bang for the buck:

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/

https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/

 

I will then typically upgrade both cpu and gpu in 3 or 4 years, when today's top of the line stuff sells for a fraction of the price.

 

one thing to look out for is to buy a motherboard that is equipped with the newest chipsets so it will be able to support future cpus.

 

currently, I would go with:

 

Ryzen 5 1600x

Gtx 1060 3gb

8gb ram

120 GB SSD


Edited by HassenderZerhacker, 02 April 2018 - 07:16 PM.


FatigueGalaxy #9 Posted 02 April 2018 - 08:20 PM

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View PostBarking_Irons, on 31 March 2018 - 12:50 PM, said:

Ok, thanks for the replies everyone, that pretty much confirms that the minimum Ryzen build will do what I want it to.
Now I just need to decide if I want to go a bit better for some other games or keep it cheap and go for that one.
(case is a HAF 922 and psu is an over kill corsair tx850 wich I got a few years ago in preparation for a cross fire monster build that never happened due to life)

Yes, it will do. I have similar setup and it runs WoT at ultra and 60+ fps (limited with vsync). It's smooth and I have zero fps drops.

You might want to consider R3 1200 CPU if you want to OC (be sure to grab B350 mobo) - most 1200s can reach 1300x performance very easily. In fact, 1300x are just selected 1200 units that guarantee higher clocks. 1300x is fine if you don't care about OC.

 

Intel 8xxx series are good deal now but it's dead end. Next generation won't work on current mobos while current AMD boards should run next Ryzen gen. BUT, i5-8400 should last at least 2-3 gens (5+ years).

 

R5 1600 and 1600x are slower in games than current Intel i5-8xxx but pairing it with GTX 1060 shouldn't make a big difference and R5 1600x prices drop fast because next gen is coming out soon. Currently, it's a great deal for 8 core/16 threads CPU.

View PostHassenderZerhacker, on 02 April 2018 - 07:15 PM, said:

 

 

currently, I would go with:

 

Ryzen 5 1600x

Gtx 1060 3gb

8gb ram

120 GB SSD

 

3 GB VRAM is not enough. Even WoT 1.0 is using over 2,5 GB and 1060 3 GB is known for stuttering in many games due to insufficient VRAM. In a year or two you might run into problems like not being able to run some games at all. Or you might run them but with stutters and unstable fps while 1050 Ti would be smooth (but on lower details).

 

The thing is, reducing textures quality (so game uses less VRAM) affects graphics a lot, especially when you go below your native resolution. In that situation, you would be better with 1050 Ti and reduce extra effects like motion blur, post-processing, anti-aliasing, etc. while keeping textures at max.

It will be much harder to re-sell 3 GB version too.

 

In short, options are two: 1050 Ti or 1060 6 GB.



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intel, or option 2. in your case

HassenderZerhacker #11 Posted 02 April 2018 - 11:13 PM

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View PostFatigueGalaxy, on 02 April 2018 - 08:20 PM, said:

Yes, it will do. I have similar setup and it runs WoT at ultra and 60+ fps (limited with vsync). It's smooth and I have zero fps drops.

You might want to consider R3 1200 CPU if you want to OC (be sure to grab B350 mobo) - most 1200s can reach 1300x performance very easily. In fact, 1300x are just selected 1200 units that guarantee higher clocks. 1300x is fine if you don't care about OC.

 

Intel 8xxx series are good deal now but it's dead end. Next generation won't work on current mobos while current AMD boards should run next Ryzen gen. BUT, i5-8400 should last at least 2-3 gens (5+ years).

 

R5 1600 and 1600x are slower in games than current Intel i5-8xxx but pairing it with GTX 1060 shouldn't make a big difference and R5 1600x prices drop fast because next gen is coming out soon. Currently, it's a great deal for 8 core/16 threads CPU.

 

3 GB VRAM is not enough. Even WoT 1.0 is using over 2,5 GB and 1060 3 GB is known for stuttering in many games due to insufficient VRAM. In a year or two you might run into problems like not being able to run some games at all. Or you might run them but with stutters and unstable fps while 1050 Ti would be smooth (but on lower details).

 

The thing is, reducing textures quality (so game uses less VRAM) affects graphics a lot, especially when you go below your native resolution. In that situation, you would be better with 1050 Ti and reduce extra effects like motion blur, post-processing, anti-aliasing, etc. while keeping textures at max.

It will be much harder to re-sell 3 GB version too.

 

In short, options are two: 1050 Ti or 1060 6 GB.

 

any sources for that stuttering ?

FatigueGalaxy #12 Posted 04 April 2018 - 02:58 PM

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View PostHassenderZerhacker, on 02 April 2018 - 11:13 PM, said:

 

any sources for that stuttering ?

 

Any GTX 1060 3 GB vs 6 GB review/comparison, forum/reddit thread?

https://www.gamersne...enchmark-review

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 The 3GB GTX 1060 is OK in some select cases. When the GTX 1060 3GB's frames dip, they dip hard.

Of course, card is completely fine and worth its price - as long as you play games which are fine with 3 GB memory. But, IMO, you don't buy GTX 1060 to have problems and be forced to reduce texture quality (which makes games look awful) in a year or two.

It's worth mentioning that it not only have less VRAM - GPU is cut-down version too. This card should be named "GTX 1055" or something else.

 



Captain_Kremen0 #13 Posted 04 April 2018 - 03:04 PM

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My old sandybridge i3 system runs 1.0 at 60+ with only a couple of settings turned to high instead of ultra. No need to bankrupt yourself for a tank game.




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