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OIias_of_Sunhillow #1 Posted 31 March 2018 - 06:52 PM

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A recent thread asked about the T92 against the M53/M55.

And if I remember rightly, one about the Obj 704, against the Obj 268.

 

My opinion, for what it's worth, is that on both these occasions, the tier IX is a far better machine in battle than the upgraded(?) tier X version.

 

Which got me wondering if there are other occasions when the tier IX is better, or seems to play better, than it's bigger brother ?



LCpl_Jones #2 Posted 31 March 2018 - 06:57 PM

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can't be so, WG have finished balancing tier's 8,9 and 10

ortega456 #3 Posted 31 March 2018 - 06:58 PM

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Maybe amx m4 51 better than 54 or t50 better for it's tier than t50/51. St1 far better than is4 and some others...

sgtYester #4 Posted 31 March 2018 - 07:02 PM

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yep, the tier 9 amx heavy, the emil 2, e75, T54,T30, conquer are all better, nicer to play than the top tier,  mostly cause they face tier 7 which are a LOT weaker than tier 8, and sometimes because the tier 10 is basically worse, looking at the e4



Beltalowda #5 Posted 31 March 2018 - 07:03 PM

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Please stop talking about tier IX or WG will come back to it with their balancing hammer and ruin it like any other tier before that.

WindSplitter1 #6 Posted 31 March 2018 - 07:06 PM

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Tier IX is prolly the most "balanced" tier. Most vehicles are competitive amongst each other and don't really share much problems.

 

And yes:

 

M55>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>T92

Dunno about the other.



spuriousmonkey #7 Posted 31 March 2018 - 07:13 PM

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Leopard PTA about 100x better than leopard 1.

Jigabachi #8 Posted 31 March 2018 - 07:48 PM

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View PostWindSplitter1, on 31 March 2018 - 07:06 PM, said:

Tier IX is prolly the most "balanced" tier. Most vehicles are competitive amongst each other and don't really share much problems.

Now they just have to provide proper maps...



TheWarrener #9 Posted 31 March 2018 - 07:51 PM

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yes, playing tier 9 seems like sealclubbing after the horror that tier 8 MM is 

WindSplitter1 #10 Posted 01 April 2018 - 04:07 PM

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View PostJigabachi, on 31 March 2018 - 06:48 PM, said:

Now they just have to provide proper maps...

 

Indeed.

There were two maps in pre-alpha but no news about them apparently. I think I've told you about it too. The Japort and the other one.

 

I made a post about stuff I wanted to see in map building and those two maps had every single thing. Hope they'll make it.



arthurwellsley #11 Posted 01 April 2018 - 04:10 PM

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Advantage of tier IX is that it has preferential Match Making. It is only +1 up and it is -2 down. In addition the difference between tier IX and X is not actually that huge. So yes in 3/5/7 tier IX is something of a sweetspot (or at least it is for me).

Tr0gledyte #12 Posted 01 April 2018 - 04:10 PM

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Tier IX tanks usually have tier X guns with 300+ pen gold ammo. Meanwhile, they get +1 and -2 MM and the highest number of tier X enemies they will ever face is 5.

 

Tier IX MM is the best MM in the game at the moment. Effective firepower and in some cases armor against tier X, and they get to stomp tier VII and VIII  a lot.



Sfinski #13 Posted 01 April 2018 - 04:12 PM

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Been selling my t10s for a while now. Keeping only the few I enjoy playing at t10. 

Balc0ra #14 Posted 01 April 2018 - 04:22 PM

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I've kept a majority of my tier 9's. And don't feel the need to upgrade always. Even less so if they have the same gun and feel etc. And the gain is more HP and bit more dpm with the same look. AMX 30 to name one. Still not bought the tier X there, as I'm not sure it's worth it yet considering the state of pure tier X games etc. Others there again differ vastly vs their tier 9. So it's usually worth upgrading.

Edited by Balc0ra, 01 April 2018 - 04:23 PM.


Lord_Edge #15 Posted 01 April 2018 - 05:26 PM

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All tier IX artillery are better than the tier X pretty much because the tier X don't have the option to use the faster firing gun which is much better for actually assisting your team.

ArrNgee #16 Posted 01 April 2018 - 06:14 PM

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E50 > E50M

M46 > M48 Patton (in my eyes that is, prefer the narrower turret of M46)

ST-I >>>>> IS4

Probably some more that I can’t think of right now

Tr0gledyte #17 Posted 01 April 2018 - 06:24 PM

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View PostArrNgee, on 01 April 2018 - 06:14 PM, said:

E50 > E50M

M46 > M48 Patton (in my eyes that is, prefer the narrower turret of M46)

ST-I >>>>> IS4

Probably some more that I can’t think of right now

 

How is the E-50 better than the E-50M? The E-50M is an upgrade in every single way and actually has some decent pen. Only downside is MM. Then again, you get to pubstomp in 3/5/7 templates a lot when you play tier X.

FatigueGalaxy #18 Posted 01 April 2018 - 07:11 PM

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Tier X tanks are always better, but MM is so much worse you sometimes can't notice difference between tier IX and X.

 

Tier IX is definitely more fun and comfortable to play. The thing is, I don't think tier X should be easy and fun to play. Tier X is for competitive play, even in meaningless random battles. I think most people think that way, which explains why there is so much premium ammo flying in tier X battles. There no other goals (like reaching the next tank) in tier X than winning and getting good results. So people try harder and get saltier.

Maybe it's my mmorpg background - I'm used to end-game being horrible, hard grind and serious pvp. Leveling process was always much funnier. WoT is no different.



hasnainrakha57 #19 Posted 01 April 2018 - 08:03 PM

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I can say obj704 is better then 268!

shortfuse1418 #20 Posted 01 April 2018 - 11:39 PM

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E50 is miles better than the E50M,




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