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skero #1 Posted 02 April 2018 - 12:12 PM

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I have this tank for a long time. And what WG did is just spit to customer´s faces.

 

They know that FCM with MM changes is just obsolete because this tank is not made to meet tier 9 almost all the time. With all the new tanks FCM is far behind with performance. This tank was supposed to perform well against same but rather lower tiers. It is not fast, absolutely no armour and size is enormous. All this negatives were somewhat manageable but now they really shine through.

 

So FCM 50t is shiny example how WG is approaching some customers. Instead of giving the tank some buff just removed it from the shop. You bought the tank? Aaah sorry it sucks now.

 

Thanks for the money though.. Don´t give up soldier and pay some more! 

Wargaming needs you, we spit to your face later :honoring:

 

And I would not have a problem to meet tier X if FCM was competitive.


Edited by skero, 02 April 2018 - 12:18 PM.


Scorilo #2 Posted 02 April 2018 - 12:18 PM

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212 pen and 240 dmg, id say its a good gun.

T54 prot. has 190 pen and meets T10.


Edited by Scorilo, 02 April 2018 - 12:20 PM.


Sfinski #3 Posted 02 April 2018 - 12:59 PM

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View PostScorilo, on 02 April 2018 - 01:18 PM, said:

212 pen and 240 dmg, id say its a good gun.

T54 prot. has 190 pen and meets T10.

 

There's more to gun stats than just pen and damage...

SlyMeerkat #4 Posted 02 April 2018 - 01:11 PM

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I am sure people think way to deeply and harshly in to WG and what they do..... Give them a break :/

JocMeister #5 Posted 02 April 2018 - 01:17 PM

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Changed mine for the Rev.

 



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View PostSlyMeerkat, on 02 April 2018 - 02:11 PM, said:

I am sure people think way to deeply and harshly in to WG and what they do..... Give them a break :/

 

Nope, they are utter failures on balancing the game. They deserve all the crap people can give them. 

Scorilo #7 Posted 02 April 2018 - 01:33 PM

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View PostSfinski, on 02 April 2018 - 11:59 AM, said:

 

There's more to gun stats than just pen and damage...

 

FCM has better pen (+22 mm) with a bit lower aiming time (-0.1) and -10 dmg and 8 degrees depression (+1 better).

I would choose it instead of T54's.

Oh and better reload time.
 

 


Edited by Scorilo, 02 April 2018 - 01:35 PM.


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View PostScorilo, on 02 April 2018 - 02:33 PM, said:

 

FCM has better pen (+22 mm) with a bit lower aiming time (-0.1) and -10 dmg and 8 degrees depression (+1 better).

I would choose it instead of T54's.
 

 

 

Still more than that. Forgot that mod 1. had abysmal handling also, but try comparing to 44-100 fe.. Difference is huge. 

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View PostSfinski, on 02 April 2018 - 12:37 PM, said:

 

Still more than that. Forgot that mod 1. had abysmal handling also, but try comparing to 44-100 fe.. Difference is huge. 

 

I dont like T54 prot that much but i cant do anything now, much like the OP.

These WG guys have a catastrophic way of "balancing" T8 premiums.

They should just make a one time offer to have an option to sell the premiums back for gold and chose something else.

Will they do this? I pretty much doubt it :))

 


Edited by Scorilo, 02 April 2018 - 01:46 PM.


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Comparing a heavy tank against a medium


Edited by SirTogII, 02 April 2018 - 02:15 PM.


Scorilo #11 Posted 02 April 2018 - 02:15 PM

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View PostSirTogII, on 02 April 2018 - 01:14 PM, said:

Comparing a heavy tank against a medium

 

I was comparing the guns dude.

Igor_BL #12 Posted 02 April 2018 - 02:16 PM

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mod1 has far better gun.

 

P.S. FCM is utter crap.



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FCM gets matched against tier8 heavies. Please tell me how you do against a Defender, 100 01, Somua, IS3, oHo, Lowe etc.
“Oh, but I go medium side” Cool, your heavy side just lost before you had a chance to help your meds...

I enjoyed Fcm, used to be good just harder to play than the IS6 but with more potential, now completely obsolete which is a shame.

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View PostJocMeister, on 02 April 2018 - 01:17 PM, said:

Changed mine for the Rev.

 

 

Good choice. Higher alpha and lightning fast, 500 kredit APCR shells for standard ammo.

 

Though I love my Mod1 for it's universal crew training abilities, it's gun really do sucks. Terrible aim time, only 2.2 seconds on paper and unless you are fully aimed, your shots tend to spread like crazy, same problem with the T34.



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View PostSirTogII, on 02 April 2018 - 02:16 PM, said:

FCM gets matched against tier8 heavies. Please tell me how you do against a Defender, 100 01, Somua, IS3, oHo, Lowe etc.
“Oh, but I go medium side” Cool, your heavy side just lost before you had a chance to help your meds...

I enjoyed Fcm, used to be good just harder to play than the IS6 but with more potential, now completely obsolete which is a shame.

 

...and when u finally pen another tier 8 heavy you do 190 in damage. 

My FCM collects dust in the garage and the crew is used elsewhere.

FCM is nothing more than a XP pinjata for the enemy and i feel sorry for everyone playin it.



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View Postskero, on 02 April 2018 - 12:12 PM, said:

I have this tank for a long time. And what WG did is just spit to customer´s faces.

 

They know that FCM with MM changes is just obsolete because this tank is not made to meet tier 9 almost all the time. With all the new tanks FCM is far behind with performance. This tank was supposed to perform well against same but rather lower tiers. It is not fast, absolutely no armour and size is enormous. All this negatives were somewhat manageable but now they really shine through.

 

So FCM 50t is shiny example how WG is approaching some customers. Instead of giving the tank some buff just removed it from the shop. You bought the tank? Aaah sorry it sucks now.

 

Thanks for the money though.. Don´t give up soldier and pay some more! 

Wargaming needs you, we spit to your face later :honoring:

 

And I would not have a problem to meet tier X if FCM was competitive.

 

As a fellow CDC owner (bought with RL money), i feel for you m8.

 

View PostScorilo, on 02 April 2018 - 12:18 PM, said:

212 pen and 240 dmg, id say its a good gun.

T54 prot. has 190 pen and meets T10.

 

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 

View PostScorilo, on 02 April 2018 - 02:15 PM, said:

 

I was comparing the guns dude.

 

You were comparing a small profile medium that has 220mm of effective when angled properly, that has good camo, and that can snapshot a little .... with a tall heavy tank with no camo, 160-170mm of effective at most (will get penned by t7's), with a gun that needs to fully aim in to actually hit something.

T-54 mod 1 goes hulldown, it is a monster with some wiggling,. FCM 50t goes hulldown .... t8's laugh and autopen it's turret.


Edited by VarzA, 02 April 2018 - 05:34 PM.


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View Postskero, on 02 April 2018 - 12:12 PM, said:

I have this tank for a long time. And what WG did is just spit to customer´s faces.

 

They know that FCM with MM changes is just obsolete because this tank is not made to meet tier 9 almost all the time. With all the new tanks FCM is far behind with performance. This tank was supposed to perform well against same but rather lower tiers. It is not fast, absolutely no armour and size is enormous. All this negatives were somewhat manageable but now they really shine through.

 

So FCM 50t is shiny example how WG is approaching some customers. Instead of giving the tank some buff just removed it from the shop. You bought the tank? Aaah sorry it sucks now.

 

Thanks for the money though.. Don´t give up soldier and pay some more! 

Wargaming needs you, we spit to your face later :honoring:

 

And I would not have a problem to meet tier X if FCM was competitive.

 

​personally I thought all it needed was medium tank MM, match it against pershings, panther 2 instead of is3, vk100p, defender etc

 



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View PostSlyMeerkat, on 02 April 2018 - 01:11 PM, said:

I am sure people think way to deeply and harshly in to WG and what they do..... Give them a break :/

 

WHAT THE [edited]HAS WG DONE RIGHT?



VarzA #19 Posted 02 April 2018 - 05:54 PM

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View Postmollethepro, on 02 April 2018 - 05:43 PM, said:

 

WHAT THE [edited]HAS WG DONE RIGHT?

 

Well, if i wanted to invest money, i would definitely buy WG stock .... so there's that.

arthurwellsley #20 Posted 02 April 2018 - 06:12 PM

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WG have stated that they want to do  something about pref MM tanks. Because after 3/5/7 everyone on the forum says that they are not worth buying. The adverse comments effect sales of pref mm tanks.

WG say that they will fix the KV-5 first followed by the IS6.

So the FCM is near the back of the queue.

 

I own both the FCM and the CDC. I have stopped playing both of these.

 

If I want to play a heavy tank for silver I use the Lowe, and for a medium I use the Lorraine 40t.

 

WG have recently balanced premiums in a way that they used to do. This is a good thing that WG have begun to get right again. SerB was right, the premium tier VIIIs should not be as good as their tech tree equivalent. Thus;

Maubrecher - vk100.01(P)

AMX Even 90 - Bat Chat 12t (but then the tech tree tier VIII lights badly need a buff)

T92 - M41 Walker Bulldog

STG/Guard - Object 416

 

Previously WG went through a period of getting it wrong, when they strayed from SerBs path and the premiums were stronger than their tech tree equivalents;

Object 252U/Defender - IS3, T10

M26E5/Patriot - T32

AMX M4 mle.49 -  AMX60t (partly because the tech tree tank is a lemon so the premium is better)


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