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mollethepro #1 Posted 02 April 2018 - 09:30 PM

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i am crap, anyone who can do any research will easely ealise this.

 

but i just bought the amx because it looked fun. i have played 7 games, one in tier 9 and i havent lost a single one of them.

in the first 2 games i got 5 kills and 4 kills yet i have a 41% win rate with the amx 13 75.

why the hell do some people dont say its OP?



K_A #2 Posted 02 April 2018 - 09:32 PM

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7 games is hardly evidence of anything. Come back after 150 battles and we'll talk.

Enforcer1975 #3 Posted 02 April 2018 - 09:38 PM

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^ As he said....

 

You only got lucky and you will drag down the winrate to your normal levels eventually. 



Pansenmann #4 Posted 02 April 2018 - 09:40 PM

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just wait till you get oneshot by arty three games in succession. :P

 

can only agree.

I think 100 games is enough to assess how good someone can manage a vehicle,

for example I have to the day 716 random games with the 1357gf,

and managed a 54.2% winrate with an average of about 0.85 kills each game.

which leads to the conclusion that I am very much average in every aspect.


Edited by Pansenmann, 02 April 2018 - 09:41 PM.


AvalancheZ257 #5 Posted 02 April 2018 - 11:45 PM

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View PostPansenmann, on 02 April 2018 - 09:40 PM, said:

just wait till you get oneshot by arty three games in succession. :P

 

can only agree.

I think 100 games is enough to assess how good someone can manage a vehicle,

for example I have to the day 716 random games with the 1357gf,

and managed a 54.2% winrate with an average of about 0.85 kills each game.

which leads to the conclusion that I am very much average in every aspect.

 

I don't think 54.2% is "average". Shouldn't that be 49%? 

Pansenmann #6 Posted 02 April 2018 - 11:46 PM

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View PostAvalancheZ257, on 02 April 2018 - 11:45 PM, said:

 

I don't think 54.2% is "average". Shouldn't that be 49%? 

 

I don't actually know what the mean winrate of server-wide statistics for AMX 13 57 FG is.

K_A #7 Posted 03 April 2018 - 12:03 AM

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View PostAvalancheZ257, on 02 April 2018 - 10:45 PM, said:

 

I don't think 54.2% is "average". Shouldn't that be 49%? 

 

Taking into consideration he's got 56% average across ALL tanks and ALL games, having one tank with 54% shows it's not too far off his "normal" performance and winrate capabilities. The way you spot OP tanks is if you see people with 56% winrate getting 59% on their tank, and at the same time 50% players get 53% on that tank, and 46% players still get 50% winrate with the same tank across the board. 

Strappster #8 Posted 03 April 2018 - 12:33 AM

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View Postmollethepro, on 02 April 2018 - 08:30 PM, said:

why the hell do some people dont say its OP?

 

Because it used to meet tier 10 and couldn't use vstabs.



Hedgehog1963 #9 Posted 03 April 2018 - 12:43 AM

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Back in the day this met Tier X tanks...  No stabilizers...  And there were people who loved it.

 

 

The better players ("Hi" to them) will have really good crews and make this work better than I....  But I love the idea of it rather than love it from my result in it.



undutchable80 #10 Posted 03 April 2018 - 09:12 AM

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View PostK_A, on 03 April 2018 - 12:03 AM, said:

 

Taking into consideration he's got 56% average across ALL tanks and ALL games, having one tank with 54% shows it's not too far off his "normal" performance and winrate capabilities. The way you spot OP tanks is if you see people with 56% winrate getting 59% on their tank, and at the same time 50% players get 53% on that tank, and 46% players still get 50% winrate with the same tank across the board.

 

Then the T92 is OP: 95 games played - 54.7% WR & 1,159 WN8, when my overall average is 48.8% & 745 WN8 (and climbing) :teethhappy:

 

Anyway, there will always be tanks you do better than your average in; some tanks you just click with (and I dont mean arty) and others you struggle through. If you find one that you do well in, ENJOY IT!



clanmcwood #11 Posted 03 April 2018 - 09:28 AM

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Come on guys WG still want to sell more of these so will adjust the RNG to make it play great so all the noobs are gods in it, come back to me with stats after it has stopped being for sale and tell me if it plays any different....

 

Not gonna buy it but I would be interested to see if anyone notices it strangely not working as well after everyone has bought one and WG have milked that cash cow.


 



SiliconSidewinder #12 Posted 03 April 2018 - 09:43 AM

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seven games and wins and you know it's op?  glad you are having a good time ;) but believe me if you can keep that going you are awesome in that tank, because as much as I like it, I am not doing nearly as good :rolleyes:.

Dava_117 #13 Posted 03 April 2018 - 09:48 AM

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View Postundutchable80, on 03 April 2018 - 09:12 AM, said:

 

Then the T92 is OP: 95 games played - 54.7% WR & 1,159 WN8, when my overall average is 48.8% & 745 WN8 (and climbing) :teethhappy:

 

Anyway, there will always be tanks you do better than your average in; some tanks you just click with (and I dont mean arty) and others you struggle through. If you find one that you do well in, ENJOY IT!

 

Pfff.

59-60% in Tiger1 with 52% general WR. It so OP it scares me... ;)


Edited by Dava_117, 03 April 2018 - 09:50 AM.


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Stuff comes in waves at times ... and rest assured that MM and RNGesus will come visit sooner or later

 

Had some great light tank fun Sunday with 29/48 won :bush::izmena:   :playing:

 

And then yesterday decided to grind some on IS-M and crew-grind on KV-1 ... won 6/24 and got my and teams arse handed to us in the lovely 3:5:7 MM :D



spuriousmonkey #15 Posted 03 April 2018 - 10:55 AM

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View PostStrappster, on 03 April 2018 - 01:33 AM, said:

 

Because it used to meet tier 10 and couldn't use vstabs.

 

I played quite a lot of games before it was buffed and it took a lot of games to somewhat rescue my amx 13 57GF stats. Man, was it a bad tank when it still met tier 10. You couldn't pen anything, even when shooting gold.

 

But now it is really nice. After the buff I switched to full standard ammo and it became one of my main credit makers. WR steadily rose from a bit above 50 to 58%.

 

Now I switched it out to the regular amx 13 57 and it will be interesting to see how the stats develop without the interference of the games before the buff.

 

It's a fun tank, and it is still extremely viable to shoot standard ammo. You just need to play a bit smarter then with full gold.



azakow #16 Posted 03 April 2018 - 11:08 AM

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Clipping players is just great.

It is OP.

65% WR at 900+ matches, tones of hardship and fun.



arthurwellsley #17 Posted 03 April 2018 - 11:17 AM

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View Postmollethepro, on 02 April 2018 - 08:30 PM, said:

i am crap, anyone who can do any research will easely ealise this.

 

but i just bought the amx because it looked fun. i have played 7 games, one in tier 9 and i havent lost a single one of them.

in the first 2 games i got 5 kills and 4 kills yet i have a 41% win rate with the amx 13 75.

why the hell do some people dont say its OP?

 

Most of the replies to this thread are in relation to the recently sold amx 13 57, but the OP actually  typed amx 13 75.

 

The OP purchased an amx 13 57, he has now played 12 games in it and now has a 66.67% win rate in it (too small a sample).

 

The OP has the amx 13 75 and has played 95 games in it with a 42% win rate. The OP has an overall account win rate of 48%.

 

So either the OP has improved his light tank play (and all his recents are an improvement), or the amx 13 57 is working it's magic on his account.

 

Also I just completed Personal Mission LT-10 for the Object 260 using my amx 13 57GF = http://wotreplays.eu...ey-amx_13_57_gf



Joggaman #18 Posted 03 April 2018 - 11:32 AM

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View Postspuriousmonkey, on 03 April 2018 - 10:55 AM, said:

 

I played quite a lot of games before it was buffed and it took a lot of games to somewhat rescue my amx 13 57GF stats. Man, was it a bad tank when it still met tier 10. You couldn't pen anything, even when shooting gold.

 

But now it is really nice. After the buff I switched to full standard ammo and it became one of my main credit makers. WR steadily rose from a bit above 50 to 58%.

 

Now I switched it out to the regular amx 13 57 and it will be interesting to see how the stats develop without the interference of the games before the buff.

 

It's a fun tank, and it is still extremely viable to shoot standard ammo. You just need to play a bit smarter then with full gold.

 

I made 42k profit in yesterday's ACE with my AMX 1357. And that was AFTER I paid for my full prem ammo/consumables:coin:



uglycousin #19 Posted 03 April 2018 - 01:26 PM

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View PostJoggaman, on 03 April 2018 - 12:32 PM, said:

 

I made 42k profit in yesterday's ACE with my AMX 1357. And that was AFTER I paid for my full prem ammo/consumables:coin:

 

Niiiiiiiiice ... a lot of players are having troubles getting an ACE in that thing. :)

 

 

 



Ranger772 #20 Posted 03 April 2018 - 01:30 PM

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Don't play the way some play the AMX. I just finished a match. The AMX 13-57 went to the back line towards the middle or end of game. When I asked him why, he said he was out of ammo. :angry:​ Light tanks' primary mission is spotting. The OP counts his kills but says nothing about assisted damage, which is the real measure of skill in light tank play.




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