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BassBoostEDM #1 Posted 03 April 2018 - 11:43 AM

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Yea, i know people gonna be like obj 260 op cus its fast stuff like that...

However not the case. I was super happy when i unlocked it because its an icon of world of tanks, but then little sadness came. The tank isnt bad or anything, its just kinda outdated in my opinion, i still do good in its just that currenty isnt worth the effort.

Why i think so... well lets look at the obj 430 U and the IS-7.

Those are almost the exact same tanks, but obj 430 having better dpm, better armor, better view range (little), and its smaller. Only thing 260 has over it is 100hp, little more accurate, and downhill goes faster because it has higher top speed. Despite its speed 260 does feel like a heavy cus it turns slow.

The IS-7 on the other hand is the tank most compared to 260 by comunity because they look the same. However IS-7 also outperforms the 260 since the last buff, it has 2400 hp compared to 2100, its accuracy is worse then 260 but not so much and since alpha is higher i can argue that IS-7 has a better gun, also IS-7 has better armor but im not gonna argue about that since its supposed to be like that.

Currently the 260 is nothing special, and isnt worth the tears and anger caused by personal missions, since you can get 2 "better" versions of it in the tech tree.

To make it worth it again only a small buff is needed, in form of little dpm boost compareable to 430u, and little hp cus 2100 for tier x heavy is outdated.

But should the obj 260 be better then its standard counterparts? Since only the best players gonna get it is it wise to also give them a better tank? If you ask yourself that then you are wrong, cus im by no means one of the best players, im just a green little above avarage player and i got the tank, and i feel little cheated by what i got. Anyway its not like if the 260 gets buffed its gonna dominate the battlefield since we allready have 430u and 268 v4 doing that hehe.

Sry for long post, originaly i just wanted to say to give the tank some love but got little carried away :)



Snatch_The_AmmoRacks #2 Posted 03 April 2018 - 01:06 PM

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I don't have it but I think you need to stop comparing it to the IS7 as such. Maybe more towards the T-10. Not as much armour, better gun handling/dpm and speed. If it was buffed to be the likes of the IS7 then you'd have copy paste tanks and they wouldn't be unique. It's just a balanced tank in broken meta sadly. Maybe try play it more as a support heavy than a heavy heavy and maybe it's good at reverse side scraping? That's just my opinion as I said I don't own one so I probably wouldn't know.

skero #3 Posted 03 April 2018 - 03:39 PM

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Hmm, I don´t have it myself but comparing it to IS 7.

 

Obj.260 DPM is better (slightly)

Reload is better (of course)

Aim time is better

Penetration is better

Shell velocity is better

Mobility is better

 

Armour is good on both but even turret armour is better than on IS7

 

Hit points are lower than IS7 but other nations HT´s have similar HP´s.

 

Not sure if this tank needs really a boost ;)



Cuck0osNest #4 Posted 03 April 2018 - 03:54 PM

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And? I dont see where you suggest to increase turret speed or rear speed.

Sfinski #5 Posted 03 April 2018 - 03:57 PM

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View Postskero, on 03 April 2018 - 04:39 PM, said:

Hmm, I don´t have it myself but comparing it to IS 7.

 

Obj.260 DPM is better (slightly)

Reload is better (of course)

Aim time is better

Penetration is better

Shell velocity is better

Mobility is better

 

Armour is good on both but even turret armour is better than on IS7

 

Hit points are lower than IS7 but other nations HT´s have similar HP´s.

 

Not sure if this tank needs really a boost ;)

 

Pen is actually worse as it's apcr. Prem ammo is better still, in penetration. Apcr as prem ammo is more versatile even with less pen. 

 

Turret is garbage. Every tank it meets can pen it. Nowhere near as good as IS7s. Also overall armour is worse.



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Tanks is fantastic as it is. The people who try and play it like a regular heavy, brawling Etc will fail and say its crapbecause of that. 

 

Play it with mediums, Gun is fantastic, amazing mobility and vs meds the armour is actually worth abit, basically a T-10 on tier 10



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View PostSfinski, on 03 April 2018 - 03:57 PM, said:

 

Pen is actually worse as it's apcr. Prem ammo is better still, in penetration. Apcr as prem ammo is more versatile even with less pen. 

 

Turret is garbage. Every tank it meets can pen it. Nowhere near as good as IS7s. Also overall armour is worse.

 

Heavy tank needs frontal armour because side and rear is garbage almost always, please tell me how every tank can pen Obj.260 frontally or rather its turret armour.. Garbage? You can pen even Maus frontally couse its flat cheeks. You need to use your armour effectively.

Sfinski #8 Posted 03 April 2018 - 05:07 PM

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View Postskero, on 03 April 2018 - 06:02 PM, said:

 

Heavy tank needs frontal armour because side and rear is garbage almost always, please tell me how every tank can pen Obj.260 frontally or rather its turret armour.. Garbage? You can pen even Maus frontally couse its flat cheeks. You need to use your armour effectively.

 

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deivio82 #9 Posted 03 April 2018 - 05:52 PM

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peace of crap tank.......

STLR #10 Posted 04 April 2018 - 07:46 AM

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View Post. Anyway its not like if the 260 gets buffed its gonna dominate the battlefield since we allready have 430u and 268 v4 doing that hehe.

 

 

That is true...a slight buff just to know that it is still worth the stretch would be great :D

BassBoostEDM #11 Posted 04 April 2018 - 11:41 AM

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I respect a reply from everyone, however all replays come from people who dont have the tank. Sure i tought the same about it from what i saw on youtube but many of those videos are outdated same as the tank. As i said obj 430u is exactly the same tank, only better in every way except race in a straight line and lets face it not every map in wot is just driving straight, so why would you go thru the trouble of unlocking the 260 when 430u is exactly the same only better.

Cuck0osNest #12 Posted 04 April 2018 - 01:35 PM

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View PostBassBoostEDM, on 04 April 2018 - 11:41 AM, said:

I respect a reply from everyone, however all replays come from people who dont have the tank. Sure i tought the same about it from what i saw on youtube but many of those videos are outdated same as the tank. As i said obj 430u is exactly the same tank, only better in every way except race in a straight line and lets face it not every map in wot is just driving straight, so why would you go thru the trouble of unlocking the 260 when 430u is exactly the same only better.

 

This is best tank. I know what i am saying, i have no problem having it same as it was without changes. Classic battles in it can bring  you best possible experience and most beautifull and trikcky gameplay possible in this game.

Just nowadays autoloaders and japan armor flood by WG requires at least turret speed or rear speed buff.

This tank would even worth buying premium time (not for firing gold) if only autoloader and super heavy crapbalance was ok in game. 


Edited by Cuck0osNest, 04 April 2018 - 02:21 PM.


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View PostSfinski, on 03 April 2018 - 05:07 PM, said:

 

Tanks.gg, go have a visit. 

 

Actually did. Saying this tank is weak/garbage, needs a buff etc is utter nonsense.

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View Postskero, on 04 April 2018 - 08:04 PM, said:

 

Actually did. Saying this tank is weak/garbage, needs a buff etc is utter nonsense.

 

Did you find the reason I called the turret garbage?

BassBoostEDM #15 Posted 04 April 2018 - 09:35 PM

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Again, i feel like people are missing the point of this topic. Its not that this tank sucks and needs a buff to be playable, far from it, it just doesnt feel like worthy reward anymore because again the 430u exactly same but better

Volatile_Squirrel #16 Posted 04 April 2018 - 10:18 PM

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So what are you complaining about?

You want this tank to be something extra special? That is all we need. More russian MEGA tanks. Yea.



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View PostBassBoostEDM, on 04 April 2018 - 09:35 PM, said:

Again, i feel like people are missing the point of this topic. Its not that this tank sucks and needs a buff to be playable, far from it, it just doesnt feel like worthy reward anymore because again the 430u exactly same but better

 

Only by turning speed

Edited by Cuck0osNest, 04 April 2018 - 11:37 PM.


SpartA_1ah1 #18 Posted 05 April 2018 - 01:12 AM

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i have 260 and the armor dont even work in tier 8

why do i need to unlock 260 and make my life in hell when i can just play 113 , wz a5 and 430u with better dpm and better armor

they buffed 113 and is 7 in the past why dont they buff 260?

let talk about turret the gun mental is 250mm and its has weak in the roof 30mm all round the turret any gun bigger than 90mm caliber can overmatch the roof

even the hull roof is 30mm

if you think its a medium tank how can i play it with a worst dpm then all the mediums and 5 gun depression

 


Edited by 1ah1ksa, 05 April 2018 - 01:12 AM.


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View Postdeivio82, on 03 April 2018 - 06:52 PM, said:

peace of crap tank.......

 

Yet after Foch B, Strv, S. Conq and Maus, it's your best tier 10 in DPG...

 

5th in 19, pure crap. Right.



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View Post1ah1ksa, on 05 April 2018 - 02:12 AM, said:

i have 260 and the armor dont even work in tier 8

why do i need to unlock 260 and make my life in hell when i can just play 113 , wz a5 and 430u with better dpm and better armor

they buffed 113 and is 7 in the past why dont they buff 260?

let talk about turret the gun mental is 250mm and its has weak in the roof 30mm all round the turret any gun bigger than 90mm caliber can overmatch the roof

even the hull roof is 30mm

if you think its a medium tank how can i play it with a worst dpm then all the mediums and 5 gun depression

 

 

Newsflash: you don't "have to" anything.




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