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Ryn1k #1 Posted 05 April 2018 - 02:42 PM

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Title sums it all. If you play a slower heavy tank, on many maps you get shot to crap basically 10 seconds after leaving spawn, and you lose one of your main advantages before the game even begins: HP.

 

I'm sorry, but this is just stupid as hell. Why would you make it so that a player has no chance to reach a position, ANY position for that matter, before they get nuked?

 

Don't even try with the balance [edited], this has nothing to do with balance.

 


Edited by Ryn1k, 05 April 2018 - 02:43 PM.


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Doesn't happen to me.  Got any replays of it happening to you?

Balc0ra #3 Posted 05 April 2018 - 02:45 PM

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On the few maps where this can happen. You can easily avoid it by going wide around the back. vs taking the shortest route. right out of it into their yolo scouts.

DuncaN_101 #4 Posted 05 April 2018 - 02:46 PM

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View PostBalc0ra, on 05 April 2018 - 02:45 PM, said:

On the few maps where this can happen. You can easily avoid it by going wide around the back. vs taking the shortest route. right out of it into their yolo scouts.

That's too easy .. There has to be a more difficult solution for this 



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View PostRyn1k, on 05 April 2018 - 02:42 PM, said:

Title sums it all. If you play a slower heavy tank, on many maps you get shot to crap basically 10 seconds after leaving spawn, and you lose one of your main advantages before the game even begins: HP.

 

I'm sorry, but this is just stupid as hell. Why would you make it so that a player has no chance to reach a position, ANY position for that matter, before they get nuked?

 

Don't even try with the balance [edited], this has nothing to do with balance.

 

 

replay?

Sirebellus #6 Posted 05 April 2018 - 03:08 PM

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One reason I turned off Assault Mode was that if you were a slow tank on the attacking side you were hit by Arty before getting out of spawn... any good defending team had a quick scout and an Arty zeroing in on the spawn...

I've not seen it happening on any map in the standard game mode though

LordMuffin #7 Posted 05 April 2018 - 03:14 PM

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View PostRyn1k, on 05 April 2018 - 02:42 PM, said:

Title sums it all. If you play a slower heavy tank, on many maps you get shot to crap basically 10 seconds after leaving spawn, and you lose one of your main advantages before the game even begins: HP.

 

I'm sorry, but this is just stupid as hell. Why would you make it so that a player has no chance to reach a position, ANY position for that matter, before they get nuked?

 

Don't even try with the balance [edited], this has nothing to do with balance.

 

Sorry, this is only a l2p issue and nothing else.



leggasiini #8 Posted 05 April 2018 - 03:20 PM

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Almost never happened to me and my TOG which is more than 50% slower than your broken POS VK 100.01 P, so purely a git gud issue right here

Negativvv #9 Posted 05 April 2018 - 03:20 PM

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Don't people think about why they die?

 

It's so obvious they've been spotted by a LT.

 

So drive the slightly longer safe route?

 

A game lasts more than 2 mins if you don't suck so stay alive?

 

I got farmed by a Blackdog a few days ago in my ARL 44 because I took the fast, exposed route. I won't be repeating that mistake again...



Scotviking1968 #10 Posted 05 April 2018 - 03:40 PM

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only one i can actually agree with is arty spawn on Siegfried line assault; if you are playing a very slow huge arty like GW Tiger P or something like that then you can die very fast with no alternates.

 

Otherwise; as others have said, take the longer route.

 

(was it going lakeside on Lakeville perhaps ? :) )



Lord_Edge #11 Posted 05 April 2018 - 03:48 PM

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View Postleggasiini, on 05 April 2018 - 03:20 PM, said:

Almost never happened to me and my TOG

 

Well in fairness you don't have to worry about getting "shot to crap basically 10 seconds after leaving spawn" if you take three minutes to get out of the spawn XD



Rooikat_ZA #12 Posted 05 April 2018 - 03:57 PM

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View PostRyn1k, on 05 April 2018 - 02:42 PM, said:

Title sums it all. If you play a slower heavy tank, on many maps you get shot to crap basically 10 seconds after leaving spawn, and you lose one of your main advantages before the game even begins: HP.

 

I'm sorry, but this is just stupid as hell. Why would you make it so that a player has no chance to reach a position, ANY position for that matter, before they get nuked?

 

Don't even try with the balance [edited], this has nothing to do with balance.

 

 

Look, if you're being targeted 10 seconds after to leaving spawn the issue isn't the game bud, it's you. You're either taking too long to make up your mind which way to go due to the possibility of a lack of map awareness/knowledge or you're yoloing out into the open thinking that your armor will help you (your statement on armor certainly proves this) OR both. Read the maps and guides, watch the vids and all will start to make sense. 

Happy gaming bud



Ryn1k #13 Posted 05 April 2018 - 03:57 PM

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View PostLordMuffin, on 05 April 2018 - 03:14 PM, said:

Sorry, this is only a l2p issue and nothing else.

 

Sorry, but no it isn't.
 

View PostRooikat_ZA, on 05 April 2018 - 03:57 PM, said:

 

Look, if you're being targeted 10 seconds after to leaving spawn the issue isn't the game bud, it's you. You're either taking too long to make up your mind which way to go due to the possibility of a lack of map awareness/knowledge or you're yoloing out into the open thinking that your armor will help you (your statement on armor certainly proves this) OR both. Read the maps and guides, watch the vids and all will start to make sense. 

Happy gaming bud

 

Nah. On some maps this happens unless you basically backpedal into redline to reach a side any position of the map. Some maps also only have few options of routes, and they're made in such a way that when you attempt to reach them on a slow tank the enemy lights and mediums will already be camping the opening (I'm looking at you Mannerheim Line bottom brawl corridor) and you -will- get shot no matter what.


It's crappy game design for a game that claims to be e-sports viable. That's all, have fun accepting this fact.


 

Edited by VMX, 06 April 2018 - 11:06 AM.


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View PostRyn1k, on 05 April 2018 - 02:57 PM, said:

 

Sorry, but no it isn't.

 

Post some replays of this happening if you want to prove you are right.

Xandania #15 Posted 05 April 2018 - 04:02 PM

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Only map I can imagine this happening on is Ensk. Was forced more than once to take my superheavy to the field due to spawning on that side and not willing to risk that many sideshots trying to get to the city

shikaka9 #16 Posted 05 April 2018 - 04:03 PM

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ah, Lakeville, especially south, like a lottery

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View PostLord_Edge, on 05 April 2018 - 04:48 PM, said:

 

Well in fairness you don't have to worry about getting "shot to crap basically 10 seconds after leaving spawn" if you take three minutes to get out of the spawn XD

 

True, good point :trollface:

Roudari #18 Posted 05 April 2018 - 04:05 PM

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View PostRyn1k, on 05 April 2018 - 04:57 PM, said:

 

Sorry, but no it isn't.

 

Hard to help if you dont tell us more than that.

 

Wich map? wich game mode are you playing? Some spesific heavy perhaps? I mainly play heavys and i dont have this problem so maybe i can help you?



LordMuffin #19 Posted 05 April 2018 - 04:06 PM

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View PostRyn1k, on 05 April 2018 - 03:57 PM, said:

 

Sorry, but no it isn't.

I can take any tank and get out of spawn and to my desired spot without being damaged. And only really as attacker on Siegfried do I risk getting spotted.

 

So yes, it is.

 

But let's show me which map you think of and how you drive, and I will tell you how to do to not get spotted.

 

View Postshikaka9, on 05 April 2018 - 04:03 PM, said:

ah, Lakeville, especially south, like a lottery

You drive along the red-line and you are safe, you drive along the coast line, and you get wrecked.


 

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View PostLordMuffin, on 05 April 2018 - 04:07 PM, said:

You drive along the red-line and you are safe, you drive along the coast line, and you get wrecked.

 

Basically this. You can easily get into the city without getting shot at all.




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