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HonourableTyr #1 Posted 05 April 2018 - 03:30 PM

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Hi all, I'm struggling at the moment with the new update. The quality of gameplay seems to have gone down so low that it is impossible to win almost any games. My normal win ratio (not global, but since I learned to play about 6-7k battles ago) was roughly 53-55% (quite acceptable, with a WN8 of about 1500). Since update 1.0 my win ratio has dropped to 30%. My average kills and damage has gone up substantially but with 0 effect on my games.

 

Accuracy seems far worse than it used to be with shots flying so wild they don't even hit within the reticle when fully aimed. When shots do hit they don't seem to penetrate even tanks with no armour. I'm partly struggling to have any impact at all at any tier because of this.

 

Any similar experiences? Have things changed so much since the last patch that individual kills and damage no longer has a impact on wins? Has the quality of games just dropped so much that it is impossible for 'normal' players to carry anymore? Have I missed some major change affecting tank stats/effectiveness? Or have new OP tank just ruined the matchmaker making whichever team has them win automatically? Any help would be appreciated.



IncandescentGerbil #2 Posted 05 April 2018 - 03:42 PM

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I am definitely getting more terrible teams than before. You'd think win rate  would stay the same, but mine has taken a real dip since 1.0 has gone live. Seems to me that new maps and new players are levelling things to the point that it's harder for individuals to have a positive impact.

CraftyVeteran #3 Posted 05 April 2018 - 04:01 PM

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my winrate has decreased but my wn8 and exp is going up so I dont care really.  just frustrating that more and more bots are running around out of cover and dying in five seconds. literally.  the last match I played an arty ran out into plain view and died before anyone was even set up.  smh....

Strappster #4 Posted 05 April 2018 - 04:11 PM

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New version with big advertising for 1.0 means new players and returning players who haven't played for a long time.

unhappy_bunny #5 Posted 05 April 2018 - 04:46 PM

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And school holidays of course.

 

And changes to maps which take a little getting used to.

 

 



Homer_J #6 Posted 05 April 2018 - 05:34 PM

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I would suggest that you don't start each battle telling your team how terrible they are and how they are going to lose.

 

By would of course I mean did when we met earlier today ... and won ... despite your prediction.  The map was Glacier, which you apparently don't like.

 

I'm not noticing any problems with accuracy or any worse teams than before but wouldn't it affect everyone equally (thus have no effect on win rates) if there was a difference?


Edited by Homer_J, 05 April 2018 - 05:37 PM.


TankkiPoju #7 Posted 05 April 2018 - 05:45 PM

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View PostHonourableTyr, on 05 April 2018 - 03:30 PM, said:

Hi all, I'm struggling at the moment with the new update. The quality of gameplay seems to have gone down so low that it is impossible to win almost any games. My normal win ratio (not global, but since I learned to play about 6-7k battles ago) was roughly 53-55% (quite acceptable, with a WN8 of about 1500). Since update 1.0 my win ratio has dropped to 30%. My average kills and damage has gone up substantially but with 0 effect on my games.

 

53-55% is way too high for WN8 1500, except on low tiers. noobmeter says your average tier has been 9.59 during your "30% winrate" era, while your average tier is 7.5.

 

So basically you have been having a bad time on tier 10, where WN8 of 1500 means pretty much nothing.

 



Enforcer1975 #8 Posted 05 April 2018 - 05:59 PM

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View PostHomer_J, on 05 April 2018 - 05:34 PM, said:

I would suggest that you don't start each battle telling your team how terrible they are and how they are going to lose.

 

By would of course I mean did when we met earlier today ... and won ... despite your prediction.  The map was Glacier, which you apparently don't like.

 

I'm not noticing any problems with accuracy or any worse teams than before but wouldn't it affect everyone equally (thus have no effect on win rates) if there was a difference?

Might be good though because you don't have expectations then. Also they might try harder just to prove you wrong and even win then some 45% tomato who did one shot of damage can be snug about it and write "lost?" at the end of the game. 


Edited by Enforcer1975, 05 April 2018 - 06:00 PM.


Homer_J #9 Posted 05 April 2018 - 07:04 PM

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View PostEnforcer1975, on 05 April 2018 - 05:59 PM, said:

Might be good though because you don't have expectations then. Also they might try harder just to prove you wrong and even win

 

Or they might stick one in the back of your turret to help you on your way.  Which I was sorely tempted to do.

ijskast #10 Posted 05 April 2018 - 07:37 PM

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I uninstalled. Got too frustrated with the matchmaker, more annoying arty than ever and crappy balance. Things like the HEAT54 are peoblems for years and have never been fixed. Spamming Heat through my hull down JT while i kept bouncing round after round from his turret while it easily should have gone through proved just too much.

Game feels like it is so less fun. Balance get worse every patch... they should stop adding tanks for a while, fix that silly gold spam which instantly removes the balance from the game, do something about the new crappy MM and finally fix that arty [edited]

Edited by ijskast, 05 April 2018 - 07:38 PM.


Baldrickk #11 Posted 05 April 2018 - 10:47 PM

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I'll be honest. I haven't noticed any difference

Tramp_In_Armour #12 Posted 05 April 2018 - 11:41 PM

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View PostBaldrickk, on 05 April 2018 - 10:47 PM, said:

I'll be honest. I haven't noticed any difference

 

Me neither.

TankkiPoju #13 Posted 06 April 2018 - 07:36 AM

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View PostBaldrickk, on 05 April 2018 - 10:47 PM, said:

I'll be honest. I haven't noticed any difference

 

No difference. Its almost like exactly same people are playing the game as before 1.0 :)

HonourableTyr #14 Posted 07 April 2018 - 06:32 PM

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View Postunhappy_bunny, on 05 April 2018 - 03:46 PM, said:

And school holidays of course.

 

And changes to maps which take a little getting used to.

 

 

 

Ah, I didn't know. That is the same reason I don't play at weekends. Weekends are just constant 0-15 losses. Possibly part of the reason.

 

View PostStrappster, on 05 April 2018 - 03:11 PM, said:

New version with big advertising for 1.0 means new players and returning players who haven't played for a long time.

 

That makes some sense. People returning and finding that quite a lot has changed. 'Gold' ammo is now more common than standard :teethhappy: and armour means next to nothing :(. A lot to learn if coming back now.

 

View PostHomer_J, on 05 April 2018 - 04:34 PM, said:

I would suggest that you don't start each battle telling your team how terrible they are and how they are going to lose.

 

By would of course I mean did when we met earlier today ... and won ... despite your prediction.  The map was Glacier, which you apparently don't like.

 

I'm not noticing any problems with accuracy or any worse teams than before but wouldn't it affect everyone equally (thus have no effect on win rates) if there was a difference?

 

I don't think I ever called people out for being terrible at the start. I just stated that I was likely to lose again as I seemed unable to win at all. Possibly something like "Here comes loss 35" or something similar. I may have lost my rag a bit at points which is not good. It isn't acceptable. After something like 50-odd losses with about 20 wins over a 3 day period I was getting more than a little frustrated. No excuse though.

 

I'm not fond of Glacier map, it is a bit too open even around the edges. Seems to make it very campy. Really don't like campy games, they get boring.

 

Yes, it should affect everyone equally. If it were then everyone would notice some oddities, hence the questions on the forum.

 

Perhaps it has something to do with ping, tick-rate and server-client side data differences since the update.

 

View PostEnforcer1975, on 05 April 2018 - 04:59 PM, said:

Might be good though because you don't have expectations then. Also they might try harder just to prove you wrong and even win then some 45% tomato who did one shot of damage can be snug about it and write "lost?" at the end of the game. 

 

Sometimes they do try harder when you tell people you're not a losing streak. Depends how you go about saying it.

 

View PostHomer_J, on 05 April 2018 - 06:04 PM, said:

 

Or they might stick one in the back of your turret to help you on your way.  Which I was sorely tempted to do.

 

Honestly, my bad. Sorry.






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