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Poll: Should they buff the M103 / T110E5 (107 members have cast votes)

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Should WG buff M103 / T110E5

  1. Yes (51 votes [47.66%])

    Percentage of vote: 47.66%

  2. Just M103 (15 votes [14.02%])

    Percentage of vote: 14.02%

  3. Just T11035 (20 votes [18.69%])

    Percentage of vote: 18.69%

  4. No (21 votes [19.63%])

    Percentage of vote: 19.63%

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yeezusk #1 Posted 06 April 2018 - 07:23 PM

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I know what you might be thinking, they are already good tanks with their fast firing 120mm guns.

I just feel like they fell off the meta currently , and when faced against tanks like the OBJ 268 v4, you have to load premium (i know thats for any tank) but this is worse for these tanks as you dont really have the armour to protect you especially with the m103.

When playing through the american HT line , you get used to the incredibly strong turrets. I feel like this falls off with the m103 as the roof gets overmatched alot.

I have a couple suggestions on what I think would make these tanks better.

M103:

  • Increase the top speed to 40-42km/h , I feel like this is a must, you simply can't get into the battefield fast enough with your brawling gun. Especially if you look at the E75. it has 40km/h top speed with a 900bhp engine, and the tank weighs 91tons. The M103 weighs 61 tons and has a top speed of 34km/h with a 860bhp engine.
  • The turret roof , this is such a big weakness of the M103, any gun higher than 114mm can just aim up at you and guratnee a penetration. The only way you can hide this is with going hull down and using your gun depression but then still, you have this one spot right above the gun mantlet which is 116mm thick, (225mm effective armor when hull down) which is still easily penetrated. This is also a big target and easy to hit. The M103 on himmelsdorf is basically useless on line 7 and even the hill as you don't have the speed to push up by the castle,or the turret armor and gun depression to be comfortable there.
  • Gun depression, it would be nice to see this continous trend of 10 degrees of gun depression , like on the t29 and t32.

T110E5:

  • Increase the top speed to 45km/h, this weighs less than the M103 with 875bhp which I feel like should give it a much faster speed.
  • Make the cupola smaller, They did this with the M48 patton, why can't they do this to the T110E5? It will make this tank a monster hull down, just like the T29 or T32, or give it more armour, like before since everything relies on gold ammo anyways.
  • Gun depression to 10, same point as on M103.

 

Feel free do disagree, agree and give your own opinion on why they should/shouldn't be buffed!

 

 

 



Dava_117 #2 Posted 06 April 2018 - 07:42 PM

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Top speed doesn't depend on engine power. You can put 8000HP engine in a tank, but if the transmission can hold up at most 38km/h, you won't get faster without destroying it.

 

I also don't agree on buffing cupola armour and making it stronger. We already have enought tanks without weackspots.


Edited by Dava_117, 06 April 2018 - 07:46 PM.


Volatile_Squirrel #3 Posted 06 April 2018 - 08:17 PM

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They don't need buffs.

 

Other tanks need nerfs.



Erwin_Von_Braun #4 Posted 06 April 2018 - 09:39 PM

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Heading towards M103 right now, so voted for it:)

arthurwellsley #5 Posted 06 April 2018 - 10:33 PM

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T110E5 got overbuffed, and then had a slight revision nerf. It's a decent tank and does not need anything. Might not be the best tier X, but it is by no means the worst.

 

M103 probably could do with some more armour on the turret cheeks and the turret top. It is supposed to be decent at hull down, but the armour has too many weaknesses and that makes it unreliable at what should be it's strongest niche. The M103 has been rather eclipsed in tier IX when the Conqueror got it's buffs.



vasilinhorulezz #6 Posted 07 April 2018 - 12:16 AM

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I don't know, I would like to see some mobility buff for the M103, because it's pretty damn un-mobile for a tank with literally 0 armor.

Probably the E5 could use a bit better mobility also, but I find it a good tank, the problem is not with the tank, but the introduction of tanks that are way better at the same role.


Edited by vasilinhorulezz, 07 April 2018 - 12:16 AM.


dex_1950 #7 Posted 07 April 2018 - 12:28 AM

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E5 needs reversing of tumor nerf, that was good up until 270+ with good angles more. Now whole "hull down" line sucks [edited]after T29. T32 is strong turreted, but gun is potato. So past T29 nothing is worth it.

Warzey #8 Posted 07 April 2018 - 02:25 AM

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View PostErwin_Von_Braun, on 06 April 2018 - 08:39 PM, said:

Heading towards M103 right now, so voted for it:)

 

Just.... don't.... stay on T29, only misery lies ahead. 

XxKuzkina_MatxX #9 Posted 07 April 2018 - 03:19 AM

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View PostWarzey, on 07 April 2018 - 03:25 AM, said:

 

Just.... don't.... stay on T29, only misery lies ahead. 

 

Yep a 6 skills crew on a tier 7 :)

JocMeister #10 Posted 07 April 2018 - 05:15 AM

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Played them both a lot quite recently. The E5 is really bad in the current meta and they need to do something about the cupola for it to work. Make it smaller like the Patton cupola would be a good idea. M103 is a really solid tank. Probably one of the most underestimated tanks in the game. I really don´t think it needs any buffs. That gun is all you need.


Edited by JocMeister, 07 April 2018 - 05:15 AM.


LordMuffin #11 Posted 07 April 2018 - 07:00 AM

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While I do agree that both M103 and T110E5 are currently some of the weakest tanks for their respective tier and class.
the IS-4 at T10 is as weak, and the 50 120 at T9.
I think it is a way better option to nerf all other heavy tanks down to their powerlevel.

LordMuffin #12 Posted 07 April 2018 - 07:01 AM

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View PostJocMeister, on 07 April 2018 - 05:15 AM, said:

Played them both a lot quite recently. The E5 is really bad in the current meta and they need to do something about the cupola for it to work. Make it smaller like the Patton cupola would be a good idea. M103 is a really solid tank. Probably one of the most underestimated tanks in the game. I really don´t think it needs any buffs. That gun is all you need.

M103 is worse then Conqueror in every way possible.



JocMeister #13 Posted 07 April 2018 - 07:33 AM

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View PostLordMuffin, on 07 April 2018 - 07:01 AM, said:

M103 is worse then Conqueror in every way possible.

 

Which doesnt mean the M103 needs a buff. The Conq is OPed as [edited]so comparing them are pointless.



LordMuffin #14 Posted 07 April 2018 - 07:46 AM

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View PostJocMeister, on 07 April 2018 - 07:33 AM, said:

 

Which doesnt mean the M103 needs a buff. The Conq is OPed as [edited]so comparing them are pointless.

 

Indeed,  I am all for nerfing the other tanks down to M103 levels of power. But saying that M103 is decent/good is just wrong imo. It isn't, it is one of the worst T9 heavies in the game.

TankkiPoju #15 Posted 07 April 2018 - 07:52 AM

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WoT Blitz version of T110E5 has much smaller cupola than on PC.

 

You can see it here: https://www.youtube....frXpVFhFpw&t=3m



JocMeister #16 Posted 07 April 2018 - 08:12 AM

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View PostLordMuffin, on 07 April 2018 - 07:46 AM, said:

 

Indeed,  I am all for nerfing the other tanks down to M103 levels of power. But saying that M103 is decent/good is just wrong imo. It isn't, it is one of the worst T9 heavies in the game.

 

Lets disagree on that as I prefer it over many (most?) T9 HTs. In any case tier for tier its way stronger than the E5 which is in dire need of a buff.

somegras #17 Posted 07 April 2018 - 08:45 AM

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View PostJocMeister, on 07 April 2018 - 07:33 AM, said:

 

Which doesnt mean the M103 needs a buff. The Conq is OPed as [edited]so comparing them are pointless.

 

The conq was always a better M103, although even more so now. 

 

Regarding the M103 itself, it's by far the weakest tier 9 HT. It wouldn't surprise me if it had the lowest global WR of all of them as well.



blickoo #18 Posted 07 April 2018 - 09:27 AM

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maybe they should just make the tanks as they were originally intended and remove premium ammo from random battles

BKatt #19 Posted 07 April 2018 - 10:15 AM

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No! Dont buff either M103 or E5, rather nerf the blatantly OP and/or broken tanks like SQ, Obj268 V4, Type 5 heavy, Maus etc etc. IMO.

mollethepro #20 Posted 07 April 2018 - 10:19 AM

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ITS AMERICAN AND IT SHOULDNT HAVE ARMOUR BECAUSE ITS NOT RUSSIAN OK?

 

how can people not realize this?

its made by a russian devceloper so russian tank must be best comrade?







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