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Skrill_Craft #1 Posted 07 April 2018 - 04:05 AM

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Just did do a battle in my B-C 12 t on overlord like 2 minutes into the battle i noticed that the enemy team had a arty while we had to sit on our arses,

 

How often does it happen that only 1 team receives an arty?



unhappy_bunny #2 Posted 07 April 2018 - 04:10 AM

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My guess is that sometimes, probably middle of the night, there are less players in the queue and MM cannot find enough matching vehicles. Rather than make that arty player wait a long time for a battle, it puts him in a team and the other team misses out. 

Skrill_Craft #3 Posted 07 April 2018 - 04:23 AM

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View Postunhappy_bunny, on 07 April 2018 - 04:10 AM, said:

My guess is that sometimes, probably middle of the night, there are less players in the queue and MM cannot find enough matching vehicles. Rather than make that arty player wait a long time for a battle, it puts him in a team and the other team misses out. 

 

hmm could be right but it just suprised me lel have been playing a couple of nights behind each other and this is the first time it happened >_<

TheComfyChair #4 Posted 07 April 2018 - 04:33 AM

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That is strange . I often play late pm/am after work and not seen that before.

Skrill_Craft #5 Posted 07 April 2018 - 04:50 AM

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View PostTheComfyChair, on 07 April 2018 - 04:33 AM, said:

That is strange . I often play late pm/am after work and not seen that before.

 

yeh it was point 5am first time this happened

 



Tipperty #6 Posted 07 April 2018 - 04:53 AM

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Middle of the night lack of players and tank, it really is not the best time for balanced teams.

Skrill_Craft #7 Posted 07 April 2018 - 05:00 AM

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View PostTipperty, on 07 April 2018 - 04:53 AM, said:

Middle of the night lack of players and tank, it really is not the best time for balanced teams.

 

well i had almost the same issue with my valentine 2, tried to join a battle at mid day ended up in the queue for almost 5 mins so i went back to the hangar toke my pz s35 out for a spin and instantly ended up in a team which contained 3-4 tier 3's 

 

The rest was all tier 4


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Tipperty #8 Posted 07 April 2018 - 05:19 AM

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View PostSkrill_Craft, on 07 April 2018 - 04:00 AM, said:

 

well i had almost the same issue with my valentine 2, tried to join a battle at mid day ended up in the queue for almost 5 mins so i went back to the hangar toke my pz s35 out for a spin and instantly ended up in a team which contained 3-4 tier 3's 

 

The rest was all tier 4

 

Midday does not really count as high population times and you will get slight MM errors, but pz s35 in a game with 3-4 tier 3 and the rest tier 4 is pretty balanced. Could be worst, it could be 3/7/5 tier 5-4-3. That tank if I remember meets tier 5, I could be wrong I don't own one!

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Skrill_Craft #9 Posted 07 April 2018 - 05:25 AM

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View PostTipperty, on 07 April 2018 - 05:19 AM, said:

 

Midday does not really count as high population times and you will get slight MM errors, but pz s35 in a game with 3-4 tier 3 and the rest tier 4 is pretty balanced. Could be worst, it could be 3/7/5 tier 5-4-3. That tank if I remember meets tier 5, I could be wrong I don't own one!

 

nope tier 1-3 has pref mm which means none of the tiers 1-3 will never meet tier 5

 

Also not to forget we get a 1 week easter vac


Edited by Skrill_Craft, 07 April 2018 - 05:26 AM.


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View PostSkrill_Craft, on 07 April 2018 - 04:25 AM, said:

 

nope tier 1-3 has pref mm which means none of the tiers 1-3 will never meet tier 5

 

Also not to forget we get a 1 week easter vac

 

http://wiki.wargamin...34_S35_captured

 

So this info is wrong?



Skrill_Craft #11 Posted 07 April 2018 - 01:34 PM

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View PostTipperty, on 07 April 2018 - 06:09 AM, said:

 

http://wiki.wargamin...34_S35_captured

 

So this info is wrong?

 

View PostTipperty, on 07 April 2018 - 06:09 AM, said:

 

http://wiki.wargamin...34_S35_captured

 

So this info is wrong?

 

wargaming did say it themselves they gave tier 1-3 pref mm

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View PostTipperty, on 07 April 2018 - 05:09 AM, said:

http://wiki.wargamin...34_S35_captured

 

So this info is wrong?

 

It's out of date. It used to meet tier 5 but in 9.18 (when 3-5-7 arrived) WG changed the match-making so all tier 3s only see tier 4 max. For some reason this change wasn't covered in the patch notes so the source is an updated match-making chart taken from the RU forums. This has since been translated and appears under the matchmaker section in the wiki.

 


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Skrill_Craft #13 Posted 07 April 2018 - 05:42 PM

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View PostStrappster, on 07 April 2018 - 01:58 PM, said:

 

It's out of date. It used to meet tier 5 but in 9.18 (when 3-5-7 arrived) WG changed the match-making so all tier 3s only see tier 4 max. For some reason this change wasn't covered in the patch notes so the source is an updated match-making chart taken from the RU forums. This has since been translated and appears under the matchmaker section in the wiki.

 

 

^^^^^^
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The matchmaker has rules.

 

The rule for arty IIRC is that each team must have the same number +/- 1.

 

So if team A has one arty, the team B could have 0, 1 or  2.

 

These flexible rules are there to prevent long waiting times during low population.


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View PostStrappster, on 07 April 2018 - 12:58 PM, said:

 

It's out of date. It used to meet tier 5 but in 9.18 (when 3-5-7 arrived) WG changed the match-making so all tier 3s only see tier 4 max. For some reason this change wasn't covered in the patch notes so the source is an updated match-making chart taken from the RU forums. This has since been translated and appears under the matchmaker section in the wiki.

 

 

Hmmm an official WG info site out of date, honestly I would be surprised, but you know, it's WG.

 

Like I said I was not sure, as I didn't have that tank. I just thought I would check the wargaming wiki. Maybe I should have checked yahoo answers for a more precise up-to-date answer!

 

I also never play low tiers, so rarely venture into that madness.



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View PostTipperty, on 07 April 2018 - 05:17 PM, said:

Hmmm an official WG info site out of date, honestly I would be surprised, but you know, it's WG.

 

I think you mean a site that WG supports but which is maintained by its users, i.e. the players.



Tipperty #17 Posted 07 April 2018 - 06:29 PM

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View PostStrappster, on 07 April 2018 - 05:25 PM, said:

 

I think you mean a site that WG supports but which is maintained by its users, i.e. the players.

 

Yeah I know it is a wiki page, but I thought WG offiicailly supported it and contributed to it as well!

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View PostRamRaid90, on 07 April 2018 - 05:47 PM, said:

The matchmaker has rules.

 

The rule for arty IIRC is that each team must have the same number +/- 1.

 

So if team A has one arty, the team B could have 0, 1 or  2.

 

These flexible rules are there to prevent long waiting times during low population.

And despite this, people are convinced that all players will get equal mitigation of almost all factors over time. I'm not so sure that is true for someone who mainly has time to play during the night time hours and someone who plays during the early evening.

 

I've been told many times that unicums and good players mitigate on teams for most players after the battlecount gets high enough. I do wonder if the skill distribution is the same at 3a.m as it is at 7p.m, as one example.



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View PostElement6_TheSprout, on 07 April 2018 - 07:06 PM, said:

And despite this, people are convinced that all players will get equal mitigation of almost all factors over time. I'm not so sure that is true for someone who mainly has time to play during the night time hours and someone who plays during the early evening.

 

I've been told many times that unicums and good players mitigate on teams for most players after the battlecount gets high enough. I do wonder if the skill distribution is the same at 3a.m as it is at 7p.m, as one example.

 

@ 1AM the unicums start showing up so less botters and less nubs who have a high ammount of battles and have no gameknowledge, so i actually love to play at the beginning of 1AM since the players who got and use their brains show up i have noticed unicums are mostly active from 1AM till average 7AM so thats like 6 hours of good battles

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View PostSkrill_Craft, on 07 April 2018 - 04:05 AM, said:

How often does it happen that only 1 team receives an arty?

 

In my experience not often. New matchmaking is much more strict regarding things like that. However, if there is an weird composition of tanks waiting in the match queue then matchmaking still has to form some kind of team, it can't do wonders and create appropriate tanks for the other team if there are none.




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