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skero #1 Posted 08 April 2018 - 11:17 AM

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What do you think about this game mechanic?

 

You trying hard to help the team, maybe you carrying the game for others, need every HP and suddenly boom, whole tank is gone. Just RNG decided, no skill involved.

 

Or someone is "deleted" at the beginning, one tank less..

 

I know I should just take it as it is but especially this mechanic feels totally unfair and unneeded, more than any other. Arty aside now.



signal11th #2 Posted 08 April 2018 - 11:18 AM

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Ammo racks happened so... On the very long list of stupid things this game has it's there but just right down the bottom.

ThinGun #3 Posted 08 April 2018 - 11:19 AM

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Yeah.  That happens all the time, tanks just spontaneously explode.  Meanwhile, back in WoT ...

OIias_of_Sunhillow #4 Posted 08 April 2018 - 11:26 AM

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View Postskero, on 08 April 2018 - 10:17 AM, said:

What do you think about this game mechanic?

 

You trying hard to help the team, maybe you carrying the game for others, need every HP and suddenly boom, whole tank is gone. Just RNG decided, no skill involved.

 

Or someone is "deleted" at the beginning, one tank less..

 

I know I should just take it as it is but especially this mechanic feels totally unfair and unneeded, more than any other. Arty aside now.

 

Somebody had to aim at you, well enough to have hit you.

Or isn't that, 'skill'?

 

Unless it was one of those idiots spamming shells at the start of the map, and you were hit by one of those from the enemy team.

 

 



skero #5 Posted 08 April 2018 - 11:39 AM

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View PostOIias_of_Sunhillow, on 08 April 2018 - 11:26 AM, said:

 

Somebody had to aim at you, well enough to have hit you.

Or isn't that, 'skill'?

 

Unless it was one of those idiots spamming shells at the start of the map, and you were hit by one of those from the enemy team.

 

 

 

Yes, it is a skill. When someone is camping invisible whole game and then erase you in one shot. With all RNG in the game this one is best.

250swb #6 Posted 08 April 2018 - 11:39 AM

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View Postskero, on 08 April 2018 - 10:17 AM, said:

What do you think about this game mechanic?

 

You trying hard to help the team, maybe you carrying the game for others, need every HP and suddenly boom, whole tank is gone. Just RNG decided, no skill involved.

 

Or someone is "deleted" at the beginning, one tank less..

 

I know I should just take it as it is but especially this mechanic feels totally unfair and unneeded, more than any other. Arty aside now.

 

Sorry to disillusion you but WG give you far more protection than real life where a single penetrating shot would 99% of the time destroy or permanently disable the tank wherever it hits. But the ammo rack in the game is a 'thing', it is something to aim at if you know where it is on the enemy tank, and sometimes somebody just gets lucky. Have Safe Storage on your loader skills and an automatic fire extinguisher, but after 24,000 battles you know all that stuff anyway...... 

OIias_of_Sunhillow #7 Posted 08 April 2018 - 11:47 AM

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View Postskero, on 08 April 2018 - 10:39 AM, said:

 

Yes, it is a skill. When someone is camping invisible whole game and then erase you in one shot. With all RNG in the game this one is best.

 

Yeah, them pesky TD's are a pain in the rear.

jack_timber #8 Posted 08 April 2018 - 11:50 AM

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Remember a whiles ago trundling away in SU152 or it may have been ISU152, when all of a sudden a red became visible some 200m plus without stopping aimed, as best as I could when moving, fired and ammo racked the red!

Guided by the hand of Stalin as jingles would say...

I was well chuffed as even a fully aimed shot from these can often miss.



RamRaid90 #9 Posted 08 April 2018 - 12:15 PM

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Can't remember the last time my ammo exploded, or I exploded someone elses for a significant ammount of damage. (It happened last night when I shot someone with my Lorr 40t for a 300 damage ammo rack explosion, I would have killed him without it)

 

The vast majoirty of ammo rack explosions come from a second hit or when you're being pummeled by shells and wouldn't survive anyway.

 

Can't see this is an issue, at all.

 



evilchaosmonkey #10 Posted 08 April 2018 - 12:22 PM

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As signal intimates, these are in fact quite rare. 

For an average player about 1 in 100 games for the very best players who know where ammo racks actually are 1 in 50.

 

A repeated graph, so in the spoiler

 

Spoiler

 



Axelfoley666 #11 Posted 08 April 2018 - 12:24 PM

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oops, wrong type of blown up. :trollface:

 



skero #12 Posted 08 April 2018 - 04:12 PM

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View PostOIias_of_Sunhillow, on 08 April 2018 - 11:47 AM, said:

 

Yeah, them pesky TD's are a pain in the rear.

 

Not about TD only. Anyone can camp. And even if not you can be erased anytime.

skero #13 Posted 08 April 2018 - 04:22 PM

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View Post250swb, on 08 April 2018 - 11:39 AM, said:

 

Sorry to disillusion you but WG give you far more protection than real life where a single penetrating shot would 99% of the time destroy or permanently disable the tank wherever it hits. But the ammo rack in the game is a 'thing', it is something to aim at if you know where it is on the enemy tank, and sometimes somebody just gets lucky. Have Safe Storage on your loader skills and an automatic fire extinguisher, but after 24,000 battles you know all that stuff anyway...... 

 

This game is everything but not reality, that´s the reason why it is fun. But with all RNG anyone can live without this one. Thing is that this is all about the luck, nothing else. Even if you can aim for ammo. But whatever let´s simulate "reality".

Strappster #14 Posted 08 April 2018 - 04:26 PM

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I was blown up from full hp twice in three battles in my LTTB earlier this week, both times by invisible TDs with big calibre guns. I don't have safe stowage on the loader yet, I don't use a wet ammo rack so I shrugged and moved on while thinking about what I could do to avoid being spotted next time. I've bounced big calibre shells in that tank a lot more often than I've been ammo-racked though. Sometimes RNGesus smiles upon you, sometimes he doesn't; mysterious are the ways of RNGesus.



vasilinhorulezz #15 Posted 08 April 2018 - 04:41 PM

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View Postskero, on 08 April 2018 - 11:17 AM, said:

What do you think about this game mechanic?

 

You trying hard to help the team, maybe you carrying the game for others, need every HP and suddenly boom, whole tank is gone. Just RNG decided, no skill involved.

 

Or someone is "deleted" at the beginning, one tank less..

 

I know I should just take it as it is but especially this mechanic feels totally unfair and unneeded, more than any other. Arty aside now.

 

Don't show your sides to enemies maybe?

skero #16 Posted 08 April 2018 - 04:49 PM

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View Postvasilinhorulezz, on 08 April 2018 - 04:41 PM, said:

 

Don't show your sides to enemies maybe?

 

Yes you can be always frontally, I forgot.

HassenderZerhacker #17 Posted 08 April 2018 - 04:57 PM

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View PostOIias_of_Sunhillow, on 08 April 2018 - 11:26 AM, said:

Somebody had to aim at you, well enough to have hit you.

Or isn't that, 'skill'?

 

actually no... it's possible to score hits without aiming, sometimes outside of the aiming circle, sometimes without even aiming AT that tank, sometimes even without seeing the tank or without even knowing there is a tank there.

some shots are pre-decided by RNG to hit, guided by an "invisible hand" no skill involved at all.



RamRaid90 #18 Posted 08 April 2018 - 05:16 PM

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View PostHassenderZerhacker, on 08 April 2018 - 03:57 PM, said:

 

sometimes outside of the aiming circle,

 

Nope.



EnzoGrim #19 Posted 08 April 2018 - 06:07 PM

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It can happens, it is annoying but it is also quite realistic, fun when it happens to your enemy , bad when it happens to you. Just today, playing my PZ. B2 with my friend and got uptiered to tier 5. Killed two tanks in less than five minutes, then i noticed that a PZ. IV H was following me, i put two hits into him, getting ready to take the 120 or so damage ... Got hit in the ammo rack and i blew up. From almost full healt to none in a second. It hurted back then , it still hurts now.

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View PostEnzoGrim, on 08 April 2018 - 06:07 PM, said:

It can happens, it is annoying but it is also quite realistic, fun when it happens to your enemy , bad when it happens to you. Just today, playing my PZ. B2 with my friend and got uptiered to tier 5. Killed two tanks in less than five minutes, then i noticed that a PZ. IV H was following me, i put two hits into him, getting ready to take the 120 or so damage ... Got hit in the ammo rack and i blew up. From almost full healt to none in a second. It hurted back then , it still hurts now.

 

and you got lucky there... since pz B2 cant see anything above T4 without fail toning with non preferential MM tanks...

just remember that this kind of behaviour is reportable, and that you shouldn't platoon with your friend unless they also have a pz B2 (this stuff should really be noted in the garage, but WG.... wake up and make sure this is known!)






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