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mollethepro #1 Posted 09 April 2018 - 07:42 PM

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im thinking of buying a medium premium tank and the mutz seems to be pretty well rounded, is it worth it or should i just buy the french one with the big gun?

CoDiGGo #2 Posted 09 April 2018 - 07:43 PM

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Buy Lowe

lord_chipmonk #3 Posted 09 April 2018 - 07:48 PM

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Most of the tier 8 premium mediums are pretty poor. The M4 at least gets 390 alpha, so I'd go for that. 

HundeWurst #4 Posted 09 April 2018 - 08:20 PM

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No the Mutz is not worth it AT ALL.

 

Its a generic tier 8 mreium tank. I does have an abysmally bad gun. Neither does it have much armor to speak of and to top that all of the mobility is not great either.

I strongy recommoned NOT to buy that tank. It was medicore when it was first released, but with todays MM and todays balancing the tank is just bad. Much rather get a T26E5 for that money.



VarzA #5 Posted 09 April 2018 - 10:21 PM

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Some players and streamers describe it as amazing, personally i saw it always as non-descript.

 

Your average 240 alpha medium, with average mobility, gun handling, and armor.

 

If it's your first t8 premium, it's ok.

If not, and you are decent player, get something else ....

For about the same gold, you can get the T-54 mod 1, or the Revalorise for less, or add some more gold and you can get the Strv S1/WZ-120-1G FT.


Edited by VarzA, 09 April 2018 - 10:21 PM.


Ziurawka #6 Posted 09 April 2018 - 10:50 PM

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https://tanks.gg/tan...s?cs=pz-58-mutz

 

It's gonna be faster and it's gonna shoot way better.

Talk about powercreep huh?

 

Or just get the Lorr 40t, it's probably the best prem medium, why bother with anything else?

 

 

 

 



Panzerfighter_ #7 Posted 10 April 2018 - 12:02 AM

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View Postmollethepro, on 09 April 2018 - 07:42 PM, said:

im thinking of buying a medium premium tank and the mutz seems to be pretty well rounded, is it worth it or should i just buy the french one with the big gun?

 

I bought this tank a few weeks ago when WG put it in the ingame techtree where u can buy it for gold.

 

It was a mistake. I thought after the Panther 88 the other german prem med which is a crap prem too it cant get worse. I was wrong. DO not buy the mutz its a terrible tank, especially in this punishing MM at the moment. Its a big fat paper target with a diva like gun. WG simply hates german premium tanks except the Skorpion. Löwe, Mutz, Mauerbrecher, JT88, Panther 88...thinking about i spend money on this crap makes me feel bad.

 

If u want a cheap 240 dmg med go for the CDC if u have the skill, i like this fast paper medium or get the M4 Reviolaoruseise. T44-100 is decent aswell.

 

Or the best option is add some € on top and get the lorraine if u are looking for a good prem medium. It has the 232pen which helps u a lot to make Credits in the new "T8 gets f++++d in the [edited] match making".

Or wait a few days and get the prosciutto medium the new italian one.

 

But dont buy the mutz.


Edited by Panzerfighter_, 10 April 2018 - 12:03 AM.


TsundereWaffle #8 Posted 10 April 2018 - 12:10 AM

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It looks nice, other than that, it’s pretty meh. I’m enjoying it though so far

VarzA #9 Posted 10 April 2018 - 04:55 AM

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View PostPanzerfighter_, on 10 April 2018 - 12:02 AM, said:

 

I bought this tank a few weeks ago when WG put it in the ingame techtree where u can buy it for gold.

 

It was a mistake. I thought after the Panther 88 the other german prem med which is a crap prem too it cant get worse. I was wrong. DO not buy the mutz its a terrible tank, especially in this punishing MM at the moment. Its a big fat paper target with a diva like gun. WG simply hates german premium tanks except the Skorpion. Löwe, Mutz, Mauerbrecher, JT88, Panther 88...thinking about i spend money on this crap makes me feel bad.

 

If u want a cheap 240 dmg med go for the CDC if u have the skill, i like this fast paper medium or get the M4 Reviolaoruseise. T44-100 is decent aswell.

 

Or the best option is add some € on top and get the lorraine if u are looking for a good prem medium. It has the 232pen which helps u a lot to make Credits in the new "T8 gets f++++d in the [edited] match making".

Or wait a few days and get the prosciutto medium the new italian one.

 

But dont buy the mutz.

 

CDC is powercrept out of existence unfortunately.

Nice mobility but big size, which makes derpers drool (including arty .... 9.18 was harsh on it), and a very very diva gun. T-44-100 is miles better since it gets an ok gun with ok gun handling but close to the same mobility and actually armor.

The only things CDC still has going for it are hp/ton and -10 on gun depression (made a bit obsolete because of where the gun is placed in the turret and how much you expose on a peek).

 

Revalorise/Progetto look very nice though.



Thornvalley #10 Posted 10 April 2018 - 07:35 AM

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As the others said, don't buy it. Bought it two years ago and traded it for an S1 recently after playing over 1000 battles in it. In fact, I would stay away from all T8 prem meds if I were you.

Simeon85 #11 Posted 10 April 2018 - 08:35 AM

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Nope, not at all worth it. 

 

If you want a cheap tier 8 premium medium get the M4 Rev, it at least hits for 390.

 

Apart from that in the current meta you basically want to have a light (if you are good at lights) Defender, Liberte, Patriot (or their non-skinned version), Skorpion G and the Lorraine 40t. 

 

The new Italian one might have some value as well as it's an autoloader.



spuriousmonkey #12 Posted 10 April 2018 - 09:15 AM

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No, the mutz is not worth it.

 

I even like the indien panzer better and it already sucks to play that at the moment.



hansvonb #13 Posted 10 April 2018 - 09:19 AM

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not worth it, get Lorry 40t instead

Lentomies1 #14 Posted 10 April 2018 - 09:48 AM

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No.

TankkiPoju #15 Posted 10 April 2018 - 09:50 AM

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View PostZiurawka, on 09 April 2018 - 10:50 PM, said:

 

If you want real power creep, just compare T69 to Progetto....

Wrinkly #16 Posted 10 April 2018 - 09:54 AM

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If you don't have it, the Lorr 40 t is a fun tank, and an excellent credit earner. The Mutz feel a little bland in every aspect.

Noo_Noo #17 Posted 10 April 2018 - 10:04 AM

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As above I dont think its worth it. Got it many moons ago and it quickly became my worst performing tank. On paper it looks like a straight forward down the middle medium but in game I couldn't get it to perform consistently at all. I think it needs a really good crew (3- 4 skills) to get it somewhere half way useful. 

 

Lorraine, Patriot, Skorpion, Lowe are all better for starters.



leggasiini #18 Posted 10 April 2018 - 10:36 AM

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Fairly generic 240 alpha tier 8 MT with no armor and poor DPM. Can already say that its likely not worth it without even owning it.

signal11th #19 Posted 10 April 2018 - 11:53 AM

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Nope I have both versions of it and play neither.




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