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Kandly #1 Posted 12 April 2018 - 10:23 AM

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Commanders,

 

Please share your feedback regarding the Italian Tech Tree in the Public Test of Update 1.0.1 below.

 

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Kandly #2 Posted 13 April 2018 - 03:23 PM

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Italian Branch :girl:

 

Tier I

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Tier II

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Tier II

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Tier III

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Tier IV

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Tier V

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Tier VI

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Tier VII

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Tier VIII

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Tier IX

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Tier X

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leggasiini #3 Posted 13 April 2018 - 04:08 PM

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Why does the tier VII vehicle have worse DPM than the tier VI vehicle with same alpha damage? Doesn't make sense to me.

HonoredStone #4 Posted 13 April 2018 - 04:13 PM

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Why exactly does the tier 6 have more dpm than the tier 7? Looks badly balanced to me

Chack11 #5 Posted 13 April 2018 - 04:51 PM

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View PostHonoredStone, on 13 April 2018 - 03:13 PM, said:

Why exactly does the tier 6 have more dpm than the tier 7? Looks badly balanced to me

 

It's because the tier 6 is Best-In-Slot.

Mostly_Harmless_2018 #6 Posted 13 April 2018 - 04:53 PM

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CLient link anywhere? can't find the bloody thing!

storm4710 #7 Posted 13 April 2018 - 09:05 PM

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game crashes when trying to load 3d model of the tier 9 new Italien tank

albee9 #8 Posted 14 April 2018 - 09:51 AM

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I dont like that we need to reset all the shells if we want to load a different type of shell next clip.

Edited by albee9, 14 April 2018 - 10:35 AM.


albee9 #9 Posted 14 April 2018 - 10:29 AM

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The intra-clip reload is bad, specially in the tier IX (3.2 secs !!!) and the tier X (2.7 secs)
For tanks that have no armor this delay is a problem.

Edited by albee9, 14 April 2018 - 10:34 AM.


Koz23 #10 Posted 14 April 2018 - 12:23 PM

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One complaint that I have so far, in regards for the autoreloader mechanic, is that the reload text that is placed next to the reloading shells is hard to see. The text is white, and on winter maps especially that is barely visible. You can still have an idea of the reload if you look at the shell, but still, it's good to actually see the numbers properly. So something like an orange/red might be better.

 

Now, as for the vehicle themselves, I think that the 3,2s intra-clip reload for the tier IX one is a little bit too much; it feels you have to be exposed for a long time just to put in a second shot, and that's kind of punishing for a vehicle that has no armor. Also, this is a bit of a personal thing that is not really THAT important, the stock turret looks cooler than the upgraded one :(.


Edited by Koz23, 14 April 2018 - 12:23 PM.


angry_pigeon #11 Posted 14 April 2018 - 01:20 PM

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In case someone from dev actually read this, probably not since this is EU and not RU, and who the bloody care about EU right?

 

- BUFF ARTY !! I don't ask to bring back AP, I don't ask to bring back HE dmg from 1000 to 1750 or 2200, but you could buff the  HP, almost all tanks can one shot you, and you don't have the option to shotgun even a scout to death anymore, giving a bit of HP, 1000/1500 HP would give you some chance to survive till someone in team come to help/save you.

 

- PUNISH SUICIDERS !! its so frustrating when the last person in enemy team drown or he the wall (for arty) denying anyone the chance to kill him, suiciders should get  0 EXP + the full cost of repair + full cost for ammo replenish, doing some dmg in a match and then suicide like a scumbag, would make you think twice to suicide when you will get 0 exp and repair cost increased from 7000-17.000 to  50.000-100.000 depending how much premium ammo was on tank.

 

- BRING SCOTISH FLAG IN GAME !! it was promised so many years back, we still don't have it. you know, more stuff in customization = more gold/money spent by players = more $$$ for WG

 

- MAP DESIGN - seriously you guys are obsessed with MOUNTAIN, does every single map you make must have mountains ?  FOREST MAP, SHOW OPEN FIELD MAPS, CITY ... etc, STOP with the mountains already.

 

- STOP PUNISH INDIVIDUAL PLAYERS !! allow players than don't have time/want to join clans in order to get tank that are locked to clan rewards. I would personally pay real money to be able to buy some of those tanks, like FV215b 183, you could easily add them to Premium Shot or Tech tree for gold = YOU MAKE MORE MONEY, MORE PROFIT FOR YOU , think about it.

 

- WOLRD OF WARSHIPS   ANTI-DRAW mechanics.  The team with less tanks LOSE, its frustrating when last tanks are arty+ heavy /camper TD vs 1 scout who hide and GL finding him, or when in teams are only camping  TD on both sides and nobody take the risk, not yo mention DRAW wont be completely removed, when equal number of tanks are alive, draw can  still occur.

 

- INCREASE GOLD AMMO PRICE - since you given so many chances to own a premium vehicle, people shouldn't have to much time buying premium ammo, increase the cost to reduce the usage of it.

 

- ADD REPORT FUNCTION for people who insult you in garage after battle, I'm sick that some random kid is pissed that I killed him and he start to swear/insult, making screen shot and reporting its a waste of time.

 

- BAN MODS like XVM !!! people should rely less on who good the person he play against is, not knowing of the enemy is a 60% win rate or a 40% win rate is better, this will make players treat enemy the same, regardless their win-rate.

 

- FAIR MATCHMAKING SISTEM - taking in consideration the MOD above, you always see +70% chance to win for a team, and in 99.99% of cases they win, seeing an equal 50%.-50% win-rate it basically don't exist, MM should be based on the WIN RATE of a player and not on the tank he drive. STOP MAKING THE MM ON SIDE !! MAKE IT FAIR !!!.



ExistanceUK #12 Posted 14 April 2018 - 02:19 PM

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I'd agree with the comments so far for the tier 9 and 10, the intra shell reload is a bit too long I'd go from base value of 3.25 to 3 and 3 to 2.75 respectively.

I also think the tier 10 takes too long to reload a whole rack as it is 4 shells rather than 3 (which works on the others fine). Either buff the shell reloads by 2 secs each or remove the 4th shell (the former would be better in my opinion given the 360 alpha othwise the alpha would need buffing to 390 for 3 shells). The tier 10 feels worse than the tier 9 at the moment.

I'll check back later once I have played them some more. The tier 8 felt fine.

 


Edited by ExistanceUK, 14 April 2018 - 02:20 PM.


Koz23 #13 Posted 14 April 2018 - 03:02 PM

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@angry_pigeon

 

Increasing the cost of premium ammo will not solve the issue. They want to rework the damn thing, not make it even more expensive. hekc, I hope the idea of premium ammo (from now on you can't really call it "gold" anymore) will completely disappear.

 

And arty buff? No. Just... no.



OliverXRed #14 Posted 14 April 2018 - 04:04 PM

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You should increase the alpha damage on the Italian tier IX and X from 360 to 390, because how is it that more or less every other tank in the game with 105 mm cannons have 390 alpha, while it has 360 alpha. It feels like the tier 10 french light has a better potential than the tier X, even if the player plays it like a autoloading tank.
 

View Postangry_pigeon, on 14 April 2018 - 01:20 PM, said:

- BAN MODS like XVM !!! people should rely less on who good the person he play against is, not knowing of the enemy is a 60% win rate or a 40% win rate is better, this will make players treat enemy the same, regardless their win-rate.

 

They properbly will not do that, since it is not a mod that enhances game performance, and therefore is not something which breaks the gameplay, its function is only to show stats, and then makes calculations out from thoses stats.


 

PonyOverlord #15 Posted 14 April 2018 - 05:41 PM

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The tier 9 and 10 tanks are not good enough.

 

The DPM of the tanks is way too low for any competitive play, the intra-clip reload is terrible. The concept is really interesting, but both aspects of the gun are so much below its standard counterparts that one would rather play a single shot tank or a auto loader.

 

I would suggest buffing both the inter-clip reload and reload and maybe make the gun handling better.

 

----------Edit----------

My take on changing the gun statatistics of the Tier X Progetto

The single shot performance is worse than a E-50M and the auto loading performance is worse than a Bat-Chat, which make versatility the strength of the tank.


Edited by PonyOverlord, 14 April 2018 - 11:04 PM.


Ville67 #16 Posted 14 April 2018 - 08:11 PM

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The armor of the tier 10 medium is stupid. It's full of auto-bounce zones. I shot one in my IS-7 five times with APCR (because test server LOL), and they all bounced. 303mm of penetration, and they all bounced. Apparently the side armor is V-shaped, under the spaced armor. And the front plates are auto-bounces at certain angles. It's not thick armor, it's just stupidly sloped armor. It's like a tier 10 BT-SV.

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Why in hells name tier 8 premium is better than the tier 8 standart  ( about italien tech tree)??? OoOOooo I know why...cause it is premium!!!!! When this crapwill stop? 

WG shame on you again and again and again...

First STA 2 > STA 1  ....now this bull crap. 

 FIX THE SECOUND SHOT RELOAD TIME AND FIX THE GOD DAM UNLOAD SPEED BETWEEN SHELLS ! !! !  ! 

HOPE YOU READ THIS crapAND DO SOMETHING!!! YOUR Fing GAME IS MORE AND MORE PAY TO WIN!!!

PREMIUM TANKS GIVES MORE CREDITS MORE EXP AND U CAN CREW TRAIN!!! PREMIUM TANKS DO NOT NEED MORE ADVANTAGES !!! 

FIX TIER 8 STANDART ITALIAN TANK!  STANDART!!! DONT BUFF THE PREMIUM U Fers



Stryker94 #18 Posted 15 April 2018 - 01:23 AM

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getting penned  by arty every single time in the italian tier X or is it just me

Dekurgan #19 Posted 15 April 2018 - 09:55 AM

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Tier 9 & 10 need the gun buffing. They have no armour and DPS that is just awful for their tier. At present i see no point in going beyond tier 6.

Brodie_ #20 Posted 15 April 2018 - 05:36 PM

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I'm not going to bother with them.
They seem a waste of time!

More so than everything else...

 

What they will produce when they introduce the Polish line I dread to think!

Russians balancing a Polish tech tree...

I do not think it will in any way be funny...

 

I really hope they rise above that!


Edited by Brodie_, 15 April 2018 - 05:43 PM.






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