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Jigzy84 #1 Posted 13 April 2018 - 11:47 AM

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So I have noticed that when I play a premium tank I do not get the full base XP as I have done with all previous WG EU missions instead they are stripping the "premium tank" XP from the calculation and giving only what you would have earned had the tank been not a premium.  When I bought the tank It did not say that it would have this condition applied to it, in no previous mission has this applied yet WG have slipped this in to this mission marathon.

 

I am sorry I am not normally overly critical of WG but that is wrong.  (for clarification if this is needed I am not talking about premium account or a booster I am talking about Base XP of a premium tank) 

 

1st game I checked played the 13 57 the tanks base XP was actually 672 but WG applied only 560 to the calculation for the mission stripping 112 xp from the actual base XP that the vehicle earned in that battle. 

 

If you count that over 10 battles that is 1.1k over 100 11.2k you get the picture adding more difficulty to the mission and adding more games required this is not right imo stipping the premium vehicle XP from the the base XP.  A premium vehicle gets a premium base XP taking this off is wrong!!



NUKLEAR_SLUG #2 Posted 13 April 2018 - 11:50 AM

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You are getting the full base XP. What you aren't getting is the premium tank 50% extra XP. Working as intended.

Jigzy84 #3 Posted 13 April 2018 - 11:58 AM

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View PostNUKLEAR_SLUG, on 13 April 2018 - 05:50 AM, said:

You are getting the full base XP. What you aren't getting is the premium tank 50% extra XP. Working as intended.

 

"working as intended" the premium was purchased as advertised as getting a bonus to its base XP. removing said bonus is not working as intended it amounts to fraud by deception in any other walk of life. In all previous marathons the full XP of a premium tank has counted only this one it is not doing so.

 

Predictably some people will "defend" what ever they do.

 

All premium tanks are advertised as this:

 

 

"more combat experience per battle"  no right to strip this from the tank it is advertised as its base xp.


Edited by Jigzy84, 13 April 2018 - 12:01 PM.


eldrak #4 Posted 13 April 2018 - 12:02 PM

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Can you link some quotes for that?

 

Afaik premiums only gets promoted as providing extra xp/faster crew training/better income.

I've never seem more base xp as a selling point.



HaZardeur #5 Posted 13 April 2018 - 12:02 PM

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View PostJigzy84, on 13 April 2018 - 11:58 AM, said:

 

 In all previous marathons the full XP of a premium tank has counted only this one it is not doing so.

 

 

 

Ask WG to change it so that previous marathon conditions apply to your Prosciutto mission.... which would be then over 600.000 XP and not 312.000 XP.... not sure if you would be happy with that ?

 

edit: the bonus XP also isnt "stripped" from your prem tank... it only doesnt count into the marathon.


Edited by HaZardeur, 13 April 2018 - 12:05 PM.


Jigzy84 #6 Posted 13 April 2018 - 12:03 PM

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View Posteldrak, on 13 April 2018 - 06:02 AM, said:

Can you link some quotes for that?

 

Afaik premiums only gets promoted as providing extra xp/faster crew training/better income.

I've never seem more base xp as a selling point.

 

already sent that:

 

 

"Premium tanks also benefit from a combat experience multiplier. This multiplier decreases linearly as the tanks' tiers increase; a tier II premium will gain a 70% bonus XP, whereas a tier VIII premium will only get 10% bonus XP. Tier X tanks receive 5%."   http://wiki.wargamin...n/Premium_Tanks


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Simeon85 #7 Posted 13 April 2018 - 12:05 PM

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Combat experience is not base XP.

 

Base XP is called base XP for a reason, in that it's the XP in the rawest form with no modifiers. 

 

Read the description for premium account, says the exact same thing, '50% more combat experience per battle'



jdc302 #8 Posted 13 April 2018 - 12:07 PM

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The base xp is also the base XP of the standard account. If you have a premium account, they don't count the base xp you get with that. Which I think they did use in the previous maratons. 

Simeon85 #9 Posted 13 April 2018 - 12:09 PM

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Posted Image

 

/end thread. 



Jigzy84 #10 Posted 13 April 2018 - 12:14 PM

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View PostSimeon85, on 13 April 2018 - 06:05 AM, said:

Combat experience is not base XP.

 

Base XP is called base XP for a reason, in that it's the XP in the rawest form with no modifiers. 

 

Read the description for premium account, says the exact same thing, '50% more combat experience per battle'

 

there was never this differentiation:

 

 

 

As you can see historically no "premium tank bonus" this is something that WG implemented long after most people purchased premium tanks changing the in game goods purchased from time of sale . Which amounts to fraud by deception in any other walk of life.



Geno1isme #11 Posted 13 April 2018 - 12:15 PM

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Base-XP is Base-XP aka the XP derived from the battle result, not Base-XP including arbitrary bonus effects that had nothing to do with the battle itself. The image you linked specifically states a bonus for "Combat-XP", so no idea how you come to the conclusion that it would affect "Base-XP" in the first place.

 

Previous marathons were not using Base-XP but all earned Combat-XP, including all bonuses. But they also required significantly higher amounts of XP to complete.



Jigzy84 #12 Posted 13 April 2018 - 12:15 PM

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View PostSimeon85, on 13 April 2018 - 06:09 AM, said:

Posted Image

 

/end thread. 

 

Nobody is discussing premium account or the multiplyer of a premium account as this was clearly specified and is known at point of sale.

Jigzy84 #13 Posted 13 April 2018 - 12:17 PM

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View PostGeno1isme, on 13 April 2018 - 06:15 AM, said:

Base-XP is Base-XP aka the XP derived from the battle result, not Base-XP including arbitrary bonus effects that had nothing to do with the battle itself. The image you linked specifically states a bonus for "Combat-XP", so no idea how you come to the conclusion that it would affect "Base-XP" in the first place.

 

Previous marathons were not using Base-XP but all earned Combat-XP, including all bonuses. But they also required significantly higher amounts of XP to complete.

 

If that was the case why did the post battle screen look like this for years and the change only happened of late:

 

 

No mention of premium tank multiplayer, never was it ever a part of the calculation.......  It was actually easier to complete the previous missions doing X2, premium account and boosts than it is this one people think it is better like like are way off the mark they have actually made it harder and put the price of the tank up to match 49.99 having a laugh this is a bad marathon, perhaps the worst yet.


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Simeon85 #14 Posted 13 April 2018 - 12:20 PM

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View PostJigzy84, on 13 April 2018 - 12:15 PM, said:

 

Nobody is discussing premium account or the multiplyer of a premium account as this was clearly specified and is known at point of sale.

 

It's the exact same as what you posted and you even quoted something that says 'bonus XP'. 

 

This has never changed, the only difference is the results screens give a more detailed break down of the XP, but the BASE XP is what you get on the scoreboard, that has never changed and premium tanks have never benefited from higher base XP, they have always had a bonus added on afterwards. 

 

You are wrong and can't accept it. 



PauI #15 Posted 13 April 2018 - 12:26 PM

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i ask wg then

 

why a player bought premium time? not to have the premium account bonus count when needed only "sometimes"?

why a player purchased a premium tank? not to have the tank bonus count when needed only "sometimes"?


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HaZardeur #16 Posted 13 April 2018 - 12:28 PM

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View PostSimeon85, on 13 April 2018 - 12:20 PM, said:

 

You are wrong and can't accept it. 

 

/thread end



Captain_Kremen0 #17 Posted 13 April 2018 - 12:28 PM

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Don't give WG the money

Problem ends.

 

I'm off to worry about world peace and stuff, leaving your petty woes in the dirt where they belong.



Rati_Festa #18 Posted 13 April 2018 - 12:30 PM

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OP It makes sense, I own lots of premiums but don't expect special circumstances because I may use them for the Marathon purposes. If is says "base" exp it's not difficult to comprehend, the fact you can't accept it is irrelevant really, A learn to read issue :P 

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Jigzy84 #19 Posted 13 April 2018 - 12:31 PM

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View PostCaptain_Kremen0, on 13 April 2018 - 06:28 AM, said:

Don't give WG the money

Problem ends.

 

I'm off to worry about world peace and stuff, leaving your petty woes in the dirt where they belong.

 

haha petty woes, yet you worry about peace :trollface: now that is what I call pointless and petty

NUKLEAR_SLUG #20 Posted 13 April 2018 - 12:35 PM

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View PostJigzy84, on 13 April 2018 - 12:17 PM, said:

 It was actually easier to complete the previous missions doing X2, premium account and boosts than it is this one people think it is better like like are way off the mark they have actually made it harder and put the price of the tank up to match 49.99 having a laugh this is a bad marathon, perhaps the worst yet.

 

Maybe it was easier in the past, but that's got nothing to do with it as this time they've decided to do it this way and the mission details are very clear that it's calculated by BaseXP only with no modifiers. Maybe WG just decided to do it this way so that it was a level playing field and fair for ALL players whether they are F2P or have premium accounts and multiple premium tanks.




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