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CallM3Markel #1 Posted 13 April 2018 - 03:25 PM

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Kozzy #2 Posted 13 April 2018 - 03:26 PM

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Post up some replays and people can explain what's going on and give tips on how to get better.

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View PostKozzy, on 13 April 2018 - 03:26 PM, said:

Post up some replays and people can explain what's going on and give tips on how to get better.

 

Im not a 41% winrate guy i'm not under 2k rating i know how the game works but still the premium ammo will pen no matter what, Maus is easy to kill just a flank and it's dead but instead i just get instantly killed by the 430 HEAT PEN russian meds

 



DarkPacifist #4 Posted 13 April 2018 - 03:30 PM

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If you get penned then you haven't angled it well (it just reminds me of a topic from not long ago)
If you want people to just have 5 gold rounds per game then just remove/give weakspots to japanese heavies and 268v4 (and maybe some tanks like 430u) that are penable without premium rounds (and not only by tds)

 

EDIT: please WG give me those 430 heat rounds he is talking about, I want them!

EDIT #2: my bad the topic was in another language section.


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Kozzy #5 Posted 13 April 2018 - 03:32 PM

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View PostCallM3Markel, on 13 April 2018 - 02:28 PM, said:

 

Im not a 41% winrate guy i'm not under 2k rating i know how the game works but still the premium ammo will pen no matter what, Maus is easy to kill just a flank and it's dead but instead i just get instantly killed by the 430 HEAT PEN russian meds

 

 

Show us some replays of this happening, it might be a bug you found.  Would be interesting to see Maus not bouncing any shots...

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View PostCallM3Markel, on 13 April 2018 - 03:28 PM, said:

Im not a 41% winrate guy i'm not under 2k rating i know how the game works but still the premium ammo will pen no matter what, Maus is easy to kill just a flank and it's dead but instead i just get instantly killed by the 430 HEAT PEN russian meds

 

Well judging by what follows after, you clearly don't. Just sod off.

Enforcer1975 #7 Posted 13 April 2018 - 08:03 PM

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View PostCallM3Markel, on 13 April 2018 - 03:25 PM, said:

its useless with u all fk this game

 

Well....it's kinda hard to learn and understand game mechanics when you do a quick grind to tier 10 at your battlecount. Looking at which tanks you do well in it's generally those who are the most forgiving. 

Slyspy #8 Posted 13 April 2018 - 08:28 PM

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View PostCallM3Markel, on 13 April 2018 - 03:28 PM, said:

 

Im not a 41% winrate guy i'm not under 2k rating i know how the game works but still the premium ammo will pen no matter what, Maus is easy to kill just a flank and it's dead but instead i just get instantly killed by the 430 HEAT PEN russian meds

 

 

You die too much and too quickly, presumably do to being too aggressive.ue

samuelx43a #9 Posted 13 April 2018 - 08:40 PM

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this game has armour mechanics, but they can be as trollish as the game itself

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View PostDarkPacifist, on 13 April 2018 - 02:30 PM, said:

If you get penned then you haven't angled it well (it just reminds me of a topic from not long ago)
 

 

I can pen Maus frontally any angle you use unless you never want to shoot while driving a Maus.

 

Introducing more OP tanks with more armor ruins old good tanks as more people switch to premium ammo. Old tanks were made for standard ammo and premium ammo as an exception tool. Now the premium ammo becomes a new standard ammo what causes even more unbalanced old vs new tanks. Unfortunately this is exactly what WG want because it increase profit as more people buy premium account in order to afford to buy premium ammo.

 

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UrQuan #11 Posted 14 April 2018 - 12:45 AM

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View PostCallM3Markel, on 13 April 2018 - 03:28 PM, said:

 

Im not a 41% winrate guy i'm not under 2k rating i know how the game works but still the premium ammo will pen no matter what, Maus is easy to kill just a flank and it's dead but instead i just get instantly killed by the 430 HEAT PEN russian meds

 

 

I'm curious where you found those russian HEAT shells. Highest I can think of currently is the 420 HEAt shell from the JPE-100 (german TD)

Also, Maus doesn't die easy, it's got plenty of HP & armor. If it dies easy for you, either you play it bad, or you are fighting a clueless Maus tanker (plenty of those around).

 

And yes, the game has an armor mechanic, complete with angling effects & penetration values. It might be a shock to you, but the Maus can block 330 mm pen shells quite well; so the only serious threats it has are high pen TX guns & the big derp guns (arty, types & high alpha HE TD's).


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Jigabachi #13 Posted 15 April 2018 - 06:25 AM

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It has its called 2 key 

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It did have (working) armor mechanics in the past, to be exact before premium cheater ammo came available for credits.!

The only working armor nowadays is spaced armor and the very very sloped armor (the auto bounce types ... like the new russians.)

You can forget about the "old(er)" tanks, like the Maus, Löwe or British TD's and HT's, any older/original tank, their armor is totally worthless nowadays. You just load gold/premium ammo, aim and shoot. Most of the time you even have to aim at weakspots, when your aim shows green or orange just shoot. 99.9% of the time you do damage, if you can't pen... just load HE.

 

This game is nowadays has become pay2win, tnx to Wargaming's greet. And don't bother for replies from WG on the forums or from support, you won't get it.



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Somehow magically I have several tanks with armor efficiency around 1, even with all the premium ammo in the game.

 

But most people can't stay hull down in their IS7s or angle their E100 turret, so they just complain.



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View PostCallM3Markel, on 13 April 2018 - 03:25 PM, said:

Does this game has armor mechanics?

 

Sure, check the  "2" Key closely :coin:

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View PostTankkiPoju, on 15 April 2018 - 01:32 PM, said:

Somehow magically I have several tanks with armor efficiency around 1, even with all the premium ammo in the game.

 

But most people can't stay hull down in their IS7s or angle their E100 turret, so they just complain.

 

You don't go hulldown in your IS-7. You just yolo the enemy in front of you ignoring the ones in your sides and let them bounce on the stalinium foil armor. 

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View PostEnforcer1975, on 15 April 2018 - 01:39 PM, said:

 

You don't go hulldown in your IS-7. You just yolo the enemy in front of you ignoring the ones in your sides and let them bounce on the stalinium foil armor. 

 

Hell yeah! Rasha! :izmena:

 

 

Like a boss


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View PostUrQuan, on 14 April 2018 - 12:45 AM, said:

 

I'm curious where you found those russian HEAT shells. Highest I can think of currently is the 420 HEAt shell from the JPE-100 (german TD)

Also, Maus doesn't die easy, it's got plenty of HP & armor. If it dies easy for you, either you play it bad, or you are fighting a clueless Maus tanker (plenty of those around).

 

And yes, the game has an armor mechanic, complete with angling effects & penetration values. It might be a shock to you, but the Maus can block 330 mm pen shells quite well; so the only serious threats it has are high pen TX guns & the big derp guns (arty, types & high alpha HE TD's).

 

 

I just blocked 890 damage with my Maus, in a fight vs Badger, is-7 and s.Conqueror. Personally I only could do 1953dmg with 4 pens. (I only could shoot 7x before I died btw.)

I received 10 hits, 7 penned, 3 didn't (all 3 from the is-7's as far as I remember correctly.)

I know how to play a Maus as I have it 6+ years now (Though since they made premium cheater ammo available for credits tanks like this suffer hard and are easy free xp and free kills for others), I also was angled correctly (I watched it back) but the Badger just shot the front of my turret (!!!) and upper front plate and every fckn shell went through it like a hot nice through butter.!

 

WG has made the Maus totally worthless, they didn't upgrade it to be on par (workable) with the new meta's at all.

The lowerplate nerf is also overdone, from 250mm to 50mm ... Now every tier 4-5-6 can also easily pen this tank from the front and they don't have to load premium ammo either.!!!

They removed the best gun and the current gun is a big joke (!!!), so now you can't pen almost anything with AP or dmg anything seriously with HE.

People call the maus a big piñata for a reason.!

 

This tank seriously need a big total makeover (buff). 

 

ps. how often do you see a Maus in public battles nowadays? Perhaps 1x in 20 or 30 battles or so?  Compare that to the 2-4 E100's (with the topgun) which you see at each side almost every battle... Clearly something is wrong.

pps. People come with the bla bla winrate of a Maus ... I think they forget to mention that they use the all time winrates, and not the last month or last week winrates and how many were played (compare that to other super heavies...)  :(






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