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Junglist_ #1 Posted 13 April 2018 - 11:24 PM

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From the new article about the upcoming 1.01 patch:

https://worldoftanks...01-common-test/

 

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Frontline Returns

Among numerous other features, the Sandbox server hosted the 30-vs-30 Frontline mode last year. It will soon return, this time to production servers, inviting you to join the attack/defense fight for dominance on a huge HD map.

Vehicles: Tier VIII vehicles

 

I loved Frontline but why tier 8? The Normandy map was so good for tier 10s since finally it was a map large enough to make the full tier 10 games so enjoyable rather than the current tiny sized corridor maps and if it would be tier 10 it would at least draw more tier 10s out of the queue and hopefully help with tier 8 mm.

I just don't understand WGs decision making they seem to be absolutely out of their minds. Biggest map available and they decide to have it for tier 8s while further destroying regular tier 8 mm and leaving tier 10s to enjoy the shitfest on maps like Mines or Ensk.

I know that lot of people will be very happy about this since it is a mode for tier 8s which is in a bad state at the moment but if WG somehow thinks that creating seperate mode for tier 8 will help then they should switch the Grand Battles and make those for tier 8 since Grand Battle maps are still too small for 30v30 tier 10 games and make Frontline tier 10.

I find this highly infuriating, I find the gameplay quite stale and was hyped when I read that Frontline is coming back but it wouldnt be WG to completely fuk it up.


Edited by Junglist_, 13 April 2018 - 11:26 PM.


SlyMeerkat #2 Posted 13 April 2018 - 11:48 PM

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There is always someone complaining about something when ever WG try something, just give them a break man

MeNoobTank #3 Posted 13 April 2018 - 11:50 PM

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I find this to be very good news. Tier 8 is the most populated tier at the moment, with the most tanks. This will help the mm too imo. 

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View PostMeNoobTank, on 13 April 2018 - 10:50 PM, said:

I find this to be very good news. Tier 8 is the most populated tier at the moment, with the most tanks. This will help the mm too imo. 

 

... and probably boost the sales, too...:hiding:

Junglist_ #5 Posted 14 April 2018 - 12:00 AM

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View PostMeNoobTank, on 13 April 2018 - 10:50 PM, said:

I find this to be very good news. Tier 8 is the most populated tier at the moment, with the most tanks. This will help the mm too imo. 

 

How exactly is it going to help the MM? If anything it will draw tier 8 tanks from queue making sure the remaining tier 8 will end up in even more tier 10 games. 

 

View PostSlyMeerkat, on 13 April 2018 - 10:48 PM, said:

There is always someone complaining about something when ever WG try something, just give them a break man

 

As I said I loved the original Frontline and back when it was on Sandbox I pretty much stopped playing randoms and played just that so it's not as if I'm 'complaining whenever WG tries something' and it's sad that they have decided to ruin the opportunity they had.



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It's not a bad idea but it'll probably make the normal MM even worse for T8 tanks if that's even possible :trollface:

LCpl_Jones #7 Posted 14 April 2018 - 12:14 PM

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Tier VIII Vehicles: Following your vocal concerns about Tier X economy and its constraints, we made Frontline only be available for Tier VIII vehicles

 

perhaps they should just give the game mode a credit booster if tier x is such an unviable tier to play 

 



VarzA #8 Posted 14 April 2018 - 12:40 PM

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View PostJunglist_, on 13 April 2018 - 11:24 PM, said:

From the new article about the upcoming 1.01 patch:

https://worldoftanks...01-common-test/

 

 

I loved Frontline but why tier 8? The Normandy map was so good for tier 10s since finally it was a map large enough to make the full tier 10 games so enjoyable rather than the current tiny sized corridor maps and if it would be tier 10 it would at least draw more tier 10s out of the queue and hopefully help with tier 8 mm.

I just don't understand WGs decision making they seem to be absolutely out of their minds. Biggest map available and they decide to have it for tier 8s while further destroying regular tier 8 mm and leaving tier 10s to enjoy the shitfest on maps like Mines or Ensk.

I know that lot of people will be very happy about this since it is a mode for tier 8s which is in a bad state at the moment but if WG somehow thinks that creating seperate mode for tier 8 will help then they should switch the Grand Battles and make those for tier 8 since Grand Battle maps are still too small for 30v30 tier 10 games and make Frontline tier 10.

I find this highly infuriating, I find the gameplay quite stale and was hyped when I read that Frontline is coming back but it wouldnt be WG to completely fuk it up.

 

Probably to give T8's more top tier matches, while preserving the right of T10's to sealclub.

 

If they implement it, tanks like the T-44-100, Progetto 46 will rock on that map, even CDC will do well.


Edited by VarzA, 14 April 2018 - 12:41 PM.


Mr_Beefy #9 Posted 14 April 2018 - 12:42 PM

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Honestly, the best way to grind tier 8, both tech tree and premium, is to play team battles.

You are guaranteed to face tier 8-6.

If you have decent players for team mates, you will win a lot, and make boo koo Silver and XP.

Playing t8 in randoms is not so good anymore.



NUKLEAR_SLUG #10 Posted 14 April 2018 - 12:45 PM

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It's almost as if when they first released Frontline as tier 10 only a whole bunch of people whined that it should be available for lower tiers too..

Morgaroth_ #11 Posted 14 April 2018 - 12:46 PM

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I dont get why every new game mode should be tier 10 only? I tired this tier 8 new frontline on test server and I really liked it..

SlyMeerkat #12 Posted 14 April 2018 - 01:09 PM

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View PostJunglist_, on 13 April 2018 - 11:00 PM, said:

As I said I loved the original Frontline and back when it was on Sandbox I pretty much stopped playing randoms and played just that so it's not as if I'm 'complaining whenever WG tries something' and it's sad that they have decided to ruin the opportunity they had.

 

Im always happy to see WG try new things and whether it works out or not is down to the player base on it of course but at same time at least they are trying and bringing some variety in to the game and with tune tuning here and there, it always good i think :)

Edited by SlyMeerkat, 14 April 2018 - 01:09 PM.


Bitter_Kipper #13 Posted 14 April 2018 - 01:41 PM

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Theoretically this should help the matchmaker.

 

There is a bulge in the player population at Tier 8, so by removing some of those tanks to the Frontline mode the MM will not be constantly trying to ship Tier 8 off as quickly as possible.

Always having more Tier 8 tanks waiting than proportionally tiers 6, 7, 9 and 10 means the MM prioritises 3,5,7 and 5,10 and 15 templates to get Tier 8s out of the queue.

 

If more people play front line with their Tier 8s. Then theoretically the bulge will smooth out to be more in relation to the number of tanks playing on tiers 6,7,9 & 10 and the MM would be less stressed and more balanced MM could take place.

 

I have to say this could be a good move, but I think it would have been easier for them to balance a Grand battles type mode at tier 8.

I think the Frontlines economy was too stark at tier 10 (Credit Losses could be horrific) and that would discourage Steve from rolling out in his IS7 and this is why they are trying it at Tier 8.



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View PostJunglist_, on 14 April 2018 - 12:00 AM, said:

 

How exactly is it going to help the MM? If anything it will draw tier 8 tanks from queue making sure the remaining tier 8 will end up in even more tier 10 games. 

 

 

This:

 

View PostBitter_Kipper, on 14 April 2018 - 01:41 PM, said:

Theoretically this should help the matchmaker.

 

There is a bulge in the player population at Tier 8, so by removing some of those tanks to the Frontline mode the MM will not be constantly trying to ship Tier 8 off as quickly as possible.

Always having more Tier 8 tanks waiting than proportionally tiers 6, 7, 9 and 10 means the MM prioritises 3,5,7 and 5,10 and 15 templates to get Tier 8s out of the queue.

 

If more people play front line with their Tier 8s. Then theoretically the bulge will smooth out to be more in relation to the number of tanks playing on tiers 6,7,9 & 10 and the MM would be less stressed and more balanced MM could take place.

 

I have to say this could be a good move, but I think it would have been easier for them to balance a Grand battles type mode at tier 8.

I think the Frontlines economy was too stark at tier 10 (Credit Losses could be horrific) and that would discourage Steve from rolling out in his IS7 and this is why they are trying it at Tier 8.

 



shane73tank #15 Posted 14 April 2018 - 05:12 PM

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Yes WG, tier 8 for this mode and then when people are sick of being stomped by defenders put them in the Christmas loot boxes - genius ,!



8126Jakobsson #16 Posted 14 April 2018 - 05:16 PM

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Frontline? More like Defenderline, amiright? :bajan:

Cobra6 #17 Posted 15 April 2018 - 10:54 AM

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You know what, a nice game mode exclusive to tier 8 would not be such a bad idea. We have skirmishes but that's pretty tryhard nowadays and we have team-battles which are the same, so a more relaxed tier 8 mode would be nice.

 

Doesn't mean though that the 3-5-7 template in randoms should not be removed entirely (only 5-10 or full same tier MM).

 

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Overall, yay? Frontline was awesome and I don't really care about which tier it has. If it improves the MM, even better.

 

Besides, tier 10 already have Grand Battles. :hiding:



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I wish they would just adjust the MM before trying to remove bulk numbers from specific tiers. 

I feel like unless the MM is changed, all that will happen is that Tier 8 will get swept up into all the 3/5/7 games possible at Tier X.

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I'm looking forward to this as it'll make lots of T8 Meds actually decent fun to play.

 

You would need to be mad to play normal Random Battles whilst this is running yes...






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