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ThinGun #1 Posted 14 April 2018 - 07:17 PM

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Pulled someone up in chat for talking about 'Edited '.  
He claimed it wasn't racism because:
a) Poland isn't a race
b) Edited so it's a factual statement

c) It's not real, because it's only a game.
d) If you think the Polish are bad, what about the CZ?

I wasn't entirely convinced, so reported him anyway.

 

I despair.

 

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Edited by VMX, 15 April 2018 - 01:24 PM.


TheOddRogue #2 Posted 14 April 2018 - 07:19 PM

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People say stupid crapin the heat of the moment, especially in a online multiplayer game. Big Deal. 

signal11th #3 Posted 14 April 2018 - 07:19 PM

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View PostThinGun, on 14 April 2018 - 06:17 PM, said:

Pulled someone up in chat for talking about 'Edited'.  
He claimed it wasn't racism because:
a) Poland isn't a race
b)Edited, so it's a factual statement

c) It's not real, because it's only a game.
d) If you think the Polish are bad, what about the CZ?

I wasn't entirely convinced, so reported him anyway.

 

I despair.

 

Poland isn't a race it's a nationality so on that he's right. He's being xenophobic

Edited by VMX, 15 April 2018 - 01:25 PM.


ThinGun #4 Posted 14 April 2018 - 07:21 PM

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View Postsignal11th, on 14 April 2018 - 07:19 PM, said:

 

Poland isn't a race it's a nationality so on that he's right. He's being xenophobic

 

Ascribing a trait (moronity) on the basis of nationality is the very essence of racism.  

lord_chipmonk #5 Posted 14 April 2018 - 07:24 PM

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View Postsignal11th, on 14 April 2018 - 07:19 PM, said:

 

Poland isn't a race it's a nationality so on that he's right. He's being xenophobic

 

Although to be fair, the "Poles" are an ethnic group (or sub group) which confuses the issue a bit. 

 

View PostThinGun, on 14 April 2018 - 07:21 PM, said:

Ascribing a trait (moronity) on the basis of nationality is the very essence of racism.  

 

racism
ˈreɪsɪz(ə)m/
noun
 
  1. prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.
     

     

     

    State/country =/= race. 

     

    Doesn't change the fact that the dude was being a prejudiced nob and you were right to report him.


Edited by lord_chipmonk, 14 April 2018 - 07:25 PM.


signal11th #6 Posted 14 April 2018 - 07:25 PM

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View PostThinGun, on 14 April 2018 - 06:21 PM, said:

 

Ascribing a trait (moronity) on the basis of nationality is the very essence of racism.  

 

nope just pointing our proper explanation of what he said, you might wish it to be racist but it's not. A race is collection of people/s not an individual nation of people that's why you have a separate word for it. As in, Poland is an ethnicity not a "race" same as the English (myself) are not a different race to the Germans.

Edited by signal11th, 14 April 2018 - 07:28 PM.


ThinGun #7 Posted 14 April 2018 - 07:26 PM

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View Postlord_chipmonk, on 14 April 2018 - 07:24 PM, said:

 

Although to be fair, the "Poles" are an ethnic group (or sub group) which confuses the issue a bit. 

 

 

racism
ˈreɪsɪz(ə)m/
noun
 
  1. prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.
     

     

     

    State/country =/= race. 

     

    Doesn't change the fact that the dude was being a prejudiced nob and you were right to report him.

 

"Racism is where someone thinks you're inferior because of your colour, ethnicitynationality or race." 

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https://www.equality...-discrimination

What the Act says about race discrimination

The Equality Act 2010 says you must not be discriminated against because of your race. 

In the Equality Act race can mean your colour, or your nationality (including your citizenship). It can also mean your ethnic or national origins, which may not be the same as your current nationality. For example, you may have Chinese national origins and be living in Britain with a British passport.

Race also covers ethnic and racial groups. This means a group of people who all share the same protected characteristic of ethnicity or race. 

A racial group can be made up of two or more distinct racial groups, for example black Britons, British Asians, British Sikhs, British Jews, Romany Gypsies and Irish Travellers.



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You might think that it's OK to abuse someone based on their nationality, because, hey man, it's only xenophobia.  But you'd be wrong.

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View PostThinGun, on 14 April 2018 - 06:27 PM, said:

https://www.equality...-discrimination

What the Act says about race discrimination

The Equality Act 2010 says you must not be discriminated against because of your race. 

In the Equality Act race can mean your colour, or your nationality (including your citizenship). It can also mean your ethnic or national origins, which may not be the same as your current nationality. For example, you may have Chinese national origins and be living in Britain with a British passport.

Race also covers ethnic and racial groups. This means a group of people who all share the same protected characteristic of ethnicity or race. 

A racial group can be made up of two or more distinct racial groups, for example black Britons, British Asians, British Sikhs, British Jews, Romany Gypsies and Irish Travellers.

 

Well I stand corrected they included everything into race...personally that's just PC BS but them are the rules. Glad I include everyone into a single race myself as in the human race but hey people have to have labels.

Edited by signal11th, 14 April 2018 - 07:31 PM.


zero_fox_given #11 Posted 14 April 2018 - 07:32 PM

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there is famous movie quote in one czech movie, something like: Guys, im no racist, Edited

for me, i hate everyone equally, i don't make differences :)

 

i hope OP is not really into this victimhood agenda because that Edited

 

 

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Edited by VMX, 15 April 2018 - 01:28 PM.


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View PostThinGun, on 14 April 2018 - 07:17 PM, said:

Pulled someone up in chat for talking about 'Edited'.  
He claimed it wasn't racism because:
a) Poland isn't a race
b) Edited so it's a factual statement

c) It's not real, because it's only a game.
d) If you think the Polish are bad, what about the CZ?

I wasn't entirely convinced, so reported him anyway.

 

I despair.

 

Reporting someone for that... Wow you really are a special sensative snowflake :ohmy:


Edited by VMX, 15 April 2018 - 01:29 PM.


signal11th #13 Posted 14 April 2018 - 07:36 PM

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View PostThinGun, on 14 April 2018 - 06:28 PM, said:

You might think that it's OK to abuse someone based on their nationality, because, hey man, it's only xenophobia.  But you'd be wrong.

 

Since when is using the an alternate correct word for something giving the green light for a view? This is the problem with some people today you literally cannot point out something without somehow green lighting you somehow I agree to the view I'm discussing. Personally I class us all as one race it doesn't bother me who you are or where you're from as long as you treat me and mine with the same respect as I would treat you and yours.

 

Can I ask you, do you agree with the way certain races treat their women? According to our PC loony masters even disagreeing with that could be classed as racism but If I'm classed as being a racist because I find the practice of arranged marriage of "minors" to men 2/3/4 times older than them something abhorrent then I'm ok with that.


Edited by signal11th, 14 April 2018 - 07:46 PM.


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You're not being much smarter for bringing this up here.

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View PostThinGun, on 14 April 2018 - 06:28 PM, said:

You might think that it's OK to abuse someone based on their nationality, because, hey man, it's only xenophobia.  But you'd be wrong.

 

you might think its also ok to take words that have existed for a long time and have definitions assigned to them before your existance and change their definitions to suit your arguement.

 

but hey man, its only an arguement.



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View PostCptBarney, on 14 April 2018 - 07:41 PM, said:

 

you might think its also ok to take words that have existed for a long time and have definitions assigned to them before your existance and change their definitions to suit your arguement.

 

but hey man, its only an arguement.

 

Oh yeah, and by the same argument, it's perfectly OK to have slaves, because slavery existed before I was born.  And yeah .. gassing people in their thousands is totally fine, because that started before I existed.
Have a word with yourself.

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View PostThinGun, on 14 April 2018 - 07:26 PM, said:

"Racism is where someone thinks you're inferior because of your colour, ethnicitynationality or race." 

 

Fair enough under British law, but that doesn't mean all laws will see it equally, and the dictionary definition of the term "race" remains unchanged AFAIK. 

 

View PostThinGun, on 14 April 2018 - 07:28 PM, said:

You might think that it's OK to abuse someone based on their nationality, because, hey man, it's only xenophobia.  But you'd be wrong.

 

Who says xenophobia would be ok?



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View Postsignal11th, on 14 April 2018 - 06:28 PM, said:

 

Well I stand corrected they included everything into race...personally that's just PC BS but them are the rules. Glad I include everyone into a single race myself as in the human race but hey people have to have labels.

 

Not really no it’s just that race as it was originally defined is basically meaningless so now it’s more of a cultural/social/legal defintion. Things do move on you know.

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View PostThinGun, on 14 April 2018 - 06:44 PM, said:

 

Oh yeah, and by the same argument, it's perfectly OK to have slaves, because slavery existed before I was born.  And yeah .. gassing people in their thousands is totally fine, because that started before I existed.
Have a word with yourself.

 

No because that would be slavery and the other would be genocide,, you see these things have words for them. Seriously mate I'd stop posting because you're showing yourself as ignorant as the people you are trying to lambast.




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