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Bordhaw #21 Posted 17 April 2018 - 12:32 PM

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View PostTimewarp76, on 17 April 2018 - 08:19 AM, said:

Unfortunately in the current meta, ALL of the so called collector tanks are underpowered compared to their same tier counterparts. This one is no different yes it has ROF but that is all, no mobility for a medium tank, low pen, so it's just another gold hog as it's see's tier 7 often. IMO just another mediocre dust collector. 

 

Premium tanks are not suppose to be better than tech tree equivalents.
 

View Postkaptainkrunch, on 17 April 2018 - 11:13 AM, said:

I

 

As for the M4 improved, that would be of interest to me.

 

I think that should be called unimproved lol


 

Timewarp76 #22 Posted 17 April 2018 - 12:46 PM

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View PostBordhaw, on 17 April 2018 - 12:32 PM, said:

 

Premium tanks are not suppose to be better than tech tree equivalents.

 

​Lol "not suppose" to ? Well, that may have been the old philosophy it sure isn't any more, the current meta is the premiums are equal to or better than the their counterparts. i.e Defender, Skorpion G, Patriot, Liberte, WZ 120 1G FT,  T34-85M etc. etc.... which means my statement stands true old collector tanks are underpowered compared to their counterparts and need some love and attention from wargaming.

ColdSteel__ #23 Posted 17 April 2018 - 01:00 PM

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waiting for DEFENDER , that will be my next purchase.

 



Search_Warrant #24 Posted 17 April 2018 - 01:27 PM

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The old tanks like these havent been rebalanced for the disgusting power creep you made, WG. so i will never touch another one of your low tier trash tanks ever again.

 

@coldsteel

 

Oh will defender be your next purchase? shame you will never get it! :trollface:

 

 


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nation22 #25 Posted 17 April 2018 - 03:49 PM

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me too

 



wsatnutter #26 Posted 17 April 2018 - 05:04 PM

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View Postundutchable80, on 17 April 2018 - 07:26 AM, said:

Fun little tank! Armour can be troll and gets the odd bounce. Mobility is pretty decent and that RoF is just hilarious. Just right click, and hold down left mouse button. No need for Gun Rammer since your relaod is faster than your aim time, so go with GLD. Sure alpha is crap, but if you plan ahead you can tear tanks to shreds. When bottom tier you have be the opportunist: a thousand bee stings... (dont forget to load ~20-25% gold rounds though)

 

what this geezer said

NoobySkooby #27 Posted 17 April 2018 - 05:32 PM

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View Postwsatnutter, on 17 April 2018 - 05:04 PM, said:

 

what this geezer said

 

Actually there is a need for a gun rammer, takes less that 2 seconds a shot now on mine, it might be your choice to not have one but it certainly improves the rate of fire, second only to the tier 4 Matilda, if not truly comparable, either very decent ROF, and lots of fun:trollface:
 

View PostSearch_Warrant, on 17 April 2018 - 01:27 PM, said:

The old tanks like these havent been rebalanced for the disgusting power creep you made, WG. so i will never touch another one of your low tier trash tanks ever again.

 

@coldsteel

 

Oh will defender be your next purchase? shame you will never get it! :trollface:

 

 

 

WG said they do not intend to sell this tank in the near future which is not saying they will never sell it again, do you work for WG?

 

If so could you do something magical about the MM:trollface:


 

sir_alex_ice #28 Posted 17 April 2018 - 05:56 PM

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Pen and alpha damage are kinda low for tier 5, taking into account it will meet a lot of tier 6 and 7 most of the time.

It has the same crew as most of the american meds, so it is a good crew trainer.

The armor can and will penned quite easily by the enemy and you will not see games as top tier.

 

I have one of the worst winrates on this tanks, despite using the correct equipment and having a crew working on the 4th skill.

 

Buy it, but do not expect much from it



TheMetalBrosINC #29 Posted 17 April 2018 - 05:56 PM

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i bought this tank and its fun but i believe this tank was a preferential matchmaking case.... all of its stats suggest such a thing... however i see this tank now meets tier 7 and its badly outmatched and out gun by many tier 6 and 5 since the tank was untouched while the preferential MM was taken from it.... (correct me if iam wrong ) 

I like it but i believe with MM like these this tank is only one step more convenient than TOG II

 



Simona2k #30 Posted 17 April 2018 - 07:59 PM

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i dont have it

hantorat #31 Posted 17 April 2018 - 09:46 PM

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Well i don't agree about the gem title more like a turd !

NoobySkooby #32 Posted 18 April 2018 - 08:55 AM

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View Postm249jim, on 17 April 2018 - 07:04 AM, said:

 

Wait till May Day, it will probably out then

 

Either that or in the advent calendar along with the E25

Johnville #33 Posted 18 April 2018 - 11:27 AM

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Not that bad for anyone wondering.My first game was good with a High Caliber,and I already got my mastery(replay here: http://wotreplays.eu...ohnville-ram_ii )

 

Do I recommend it?Not at all,but since I love my Shermans,I couldn't resist,plus having a 4 skill crew ready to go.I like it,at least I can finally platoon with a tier 5 premium for once,since all of the tier 5 premiums I own have Pref. MM.And yes,the tank does see tier 7,which is...alarming,but it can work.You can also experience tier 5 Heavy tank Hitpoints on a tier 5 medium,which is nowhere to be seen nowadays apart from the Pz. T25.

 

I hope for a buff,but there is a 0.000000001% chance for that,so yeah,no hope for this tank to be competitive.All it needs is buffs to it's top speed and it's view range in my opinion.Get the top speed to 44 km/h(and the reverse speed to 16 km/h),if you really want it to be slower than the regular M4,and get the view range up to 350 meters from 330 which is abysmal.



Wayward_Current #34 Posted 18 April 2018 - 11:42 AM

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When (rarely) top tier its capable tank and offers joy especially when players who don't know what's Ram II  rush on you thinking its whatever stock Sherman or something like Sherman  scrapped in the barn of some  patriotic  farmer who used waste pipe to look like it has a real gun , only to meet their  destiny facing  fast firing  6-pounder gun that tears them apart.

 

But  aginst tier VI its forced to use premium amo and tanks have much more health for just 75  damge per shot so you must penetrate them dosen times to kill, and get close since its not precise gun, and  against tier VII tanks the gun is absolutely obsolete, unusable in both penetration and in damage dealing potential in any battle scenario.


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It can be an absolute beast of a tank with that ROF check out these replays 12

Bordhaw #36 Posted 18 April 2018 - 08:03 PM

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View PostTimewarp76, on 17 April 2018 - 11:46 AM, said:

 

​Lol "not suppose" to ? Well, that may have been the old philosophy it sure isn't any more, the current meta is the premiums are equal to or better than the their counterparts. i.e Defender, Skorpion G, Patriot, Liberte, WZ 120 1G FT,  T34-85M etc. etc.... which means my statement stands true old collector tanks are underpowered compared to their counterparts and need some love and attention from wargaming.

 

They arent new. Look at the Mauerbrecher, K-91, Object 277,,,,, balanced. 




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