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Poll: Pushing, blocking and overturning allies (57 members have cast votes)

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What's your opinion regarding how WoT handles players blocking, pushing and overtuning allied tanks.

  1. It's not a problem. It happens so rarely that Wargming shouldn't focus on behavior like this. (21 votes [27.27%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 27.27%

  2. It's only a minor problem. The ingame report system works well. (16 votes [20.78%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 20.78%

  3. It's a problem. But serious offenses are being handled by submitting tickets. (14 votes [18.18%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 18.18%

  4. It's a major problem. Especially since Wargaming doesn't do anything concerning this issue and there's no valid way to report actions like this. (26 votes [33.77%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 33.77%

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skr01k #1 Posted 17 April 2018 - 03:39 PM

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It really get's to me that there is absolutly no penalty for players doing this to their allies. Actually the only action being tracked by the automated system is the 35 dmg i'm "doing" to the Foch 155 when he's ramming and overturning my 430U. Teamkilling a full health tank doesn't even get registered as teamdamage by the Foch.

It seems Wargaming doesn't care about actions like this as they only refer to the ingame report system, which we all know have been disabled for years. There no way to report toxic behavior and there is no repercussion of the perpetrator. This is really game breaking and pushes me even closer to step away from a game that could be so much better if players like this were not present in the game.

 

https://gfycat.com/MildBlackAsianporcupine

 

 

 


Edited by skr01k, 17 April 2018 - 03:45 PM.


HassenderZerhacker #2 Posted 17 April 2018 - 03:49 PM

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tickets don't work.

 

only sending replays to Claus Kellerman works, hoping he will take up the worst offenders in his show.

 

BTW, I personally feature in this video:*Edited

 

that's the kind of behaviors we have to put up with and sending in replays to support does absolutely nothing, despite these toxic players committing crimes on-line (racial slurs).

 

I think that for very hard cases such as this one, WG should contact the offending players' country police and send them all data they have so that if the police wishes so, they can be made an example of.


Edited by Nohe21, 18 April 2018 - 10:26 AM.
*Post edited due to Naming & Shaming. Avoid posting videos/images where you can see the name of a player showing bad behavior in-game.


Ganjalf94 #3 Posted 17 April 2018 - 04:39 PM

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None of the above. It's a minor problem, for the frequency in which it happens, that I have never seen Wg address, not even in tickets, with the exact excuse that it's a minor problem.

Homer_J #4 Posted 17 April 2018 - 04:40 PM

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View PostHassenderZerhacker, on 17 April 2018 - 03:49 PM, said:

tickets don't work.

 

Yes they do, log it as abuse of in game physics.

 

But it would be nice if the automated TK system would take care of it like it does with drowning or pushing off cliffs.



Lego_Fatman #5 Posted 17 April 2018 - 05:40 PM

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Sometimes the heavies camping in the base just need a little push to get them going...so no its not that much of a problem

BKatt #6 Posted 17 April 2018 - 05:45 PM

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Minor problem as it happens so rarely

unhappy_bunny #7 Posted 17 April 2018 - 05:52 PM

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Its not a problem, but it is a minor problem and also a problem, and it is certainly a major problem, in fact it is such a bad problem I was forced to vote for all four options. 

Shaade_Silentpaw #8 Posted 17 April 2018 - 10:28 PM

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And yet I got auto-banned for an hour for trying to unflip a team mate...

Edited by Shaade_Silentpaw, 17 April 2018 - 10:28 PM.


anonym_kL7qtn3e52MB #9 Posted 18 April 2018 - 11:07 AM

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It's a minor problem.

But only because there is no way WG can act on it.

They won't spend time going through replays for instance.

 

It happens (to me) maybe once in every 500 matches.

Same goes for people sticking their gun in my SPG gun. This will kill your own tank and possibly you will be punished for teamdamage/kill.

Also, as an LT, bush camping and a friendly teammate drives up behind me and starts shooting. I'm still invisible. The "freindly" teammember using me as his personal shield etc.

 

Terrible people are terrible...

 

 

P.S. Poll is flawed in 2 ways.

Not enough choices/options.

You can select all the answers.


Edited by Spek_en_Bonen, 18 April 2018 - 11:10 AM.


Balc0ra #10 Posted 18 April 2018 - 11:22 AM

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View Postskr01k, on 17 April 2018 - 03:39 PM, said:

It really get's to me that there is absolutly no penalty for players doing this to their allies. Actually the only action being tracked by the automated system is the 35 dmg i'm "doing" to the Foch 155 when he's ramming and overturning my 430U. Teamkilling a full health tank doesn't even get registered as teamdamage by the Foch

 

Depends. You can actually turn blue if you push someone in the water etc and they drown and you get blamed for it. As that's what I got the last time I turned blue. Light wanted to cross the bridge at the same time as my Type 4 was going across it. He jumped the rail and went over, I got blamed for it and turned blue with no TD of late. Same thing can happen if you flip someone over, depending on how you contact them before they die. You can still get blamed for it, deliberate or not. And you can still get it counted as TD.

 

You don't get the team damage in the end game results if you TK someone that way. Just as you won't get the damage for a full HP kill if you flip or drown an enemy tank. But you still get the tally added to the enemy to friendly damage ratio.

 

Tho again... no one cares about a 1 hit wonder. If he does it enough and gets blamed for it "as in a -1", then WG takes notice. System is automated and really don't insta ban anyone the second they do something one time. He only goes for repeat offenders.


Edited by Balc0ra, 18 April 2018 - 11:23 AM.


MeetriX #11 Posted 18 April 2018 - 11:23 AM

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41 votes. We have a very active members.:trollface:

Lord_Edge #12 Posted 18 April 2018 - 11:31 AM

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I nearly voted for "It's not a problem. It happens so rarely that Wargming shouldn't focus on behavior like this" but then noticed the poll also included pushing and blocking, so definitely "It's a major problem. Especially since Wargaming doesn't do anything concerning this issue and there's no valid way to report actions like this."

SABAOTH #13 Posted 18 April 2018 - 11:31 AM

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View Postskr01k, on 17 April 2018 - 03:39 PM, said:

It really get's to me that there is absolutly no penalty for players doing this to their allies. Actually the only action being tracked by the automated system is the 35 dmg i'm "doing" to the Foch 155 when he's ramming and overturning my 430U. Teamkilling a full health tank doesn't even get registered as teamdamage by the Foch.

It seems Wargaming doesn't care about actions like this as they only refer to the ingame report system, which we all know have been disabled for years. There no way to report toxic behavior and there is no repercussion of the perpetrator. This is really game breaking and pushes me even closer to step away from a game that could be so much better if players like this were not present in the game.

 

https://gfycat.com/MildBlackAsianporcupine

 

 

 

 

Issue aside:

 

I came to check if I could vote all options, which I could :coin:



Dava_117 #14 Posted 18 April 2018 - 11:32 AM

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Got tempted to vote all the options. 

It's quite a minor problem, un all my career I got pushed in water just once and never get overturned by allys. A general report from the team should be enought.



ApocalypseSquad #15 Posted 18 April 2018 - 11:50 AM

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Voted not a problem as I have never, ever seen this.

GSXR_Brian #16 Posted 02 May 2018 - 04:36 AM

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My son and I had this and they constantly kept trying, going round and round us, in the end both my son and I fired at them and my son got a ban. Today I was firing at an enemy and an ally drove into the line of fire. Now I am blue for the very first time and I am not happy about it. How does this work and why can it not be detected?.

Spurtung #17 Posted 02 May 2018 - 04:50 AM

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Question: how does the system know the difference between a deliberate overturn and an attempt to save an overturned vehicle?

Homer_J #18 Posted 02 May 2018 - 09:16 AM

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View PostSpurtung, on 02 May 2018 - 04:50 AM, said:

Question: how does the system know the difference between a deliberate overturn and an attempt to save an overturned vehicle?

 

Same as it knows the difference between deliberately drowning someone and knocking a light tank off a bridge when it tries to squeeze past you.  It doesn't.

 

When they introduced overturning they said they would add it to the teamkill system but wanted to give players a chance to get used to the new mechanic first.  I think it's been long enough now.



NoobySkooby #19 Posted 02 May 2018 - 09:22 AM

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Not so much the over turning, but being pushed out of cover by a stat padder or unicom really bugs me. 
 

View PostGSXR_Brian, on 02 May 2018 - 04:36 AM, said:

My son and I had this and they constantly kept trying, going round and round us, in the end both my son and I fired at them and my son got a ban. Today I was firing at an enemy and an ally drove into the line of fire. Now I am blue for the very first time and I am not happy about it. How does this work and why can it not be detected?.

 

I get that too when you are lined up for the shot and someone drifts right into your view line the second to press the mouse key, a swift apology from myself in the chat should suffice, if they cannot accept that , then screw them to hell, they should be watching where they go, even if this is difficult in the heat of the moment.
 

Homer_J #20 Posted 02 May 2018 - 09:36 AM

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View PostNoobySkooby, on 02 May 2018 - 09:22 AM, said:

Not so much the over turning, but being pushed out of cover by a stat padder or unicom really bugs me. 

 

Ever thought that's why they do it?

 

Complaining that it bugs you will only make them do it more.  The way to stop them is not to be camped somewhere useless.






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