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thewillyboy2 #1 Posted 17 April 2018 - 08:17 PM

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Hey WoT forum

I recently got into World of Tanks and I think this game is amazing. 
The reason I got into this game was because of my friends, who were playing this.
It was very fun and I like grinding for new tanks and such, but when I am platooning with my friends in like tier VI, then we get to battle tier VIII tanks! Sure we do have tier VIII tanks on our team, but it really ruins the fun, when you have no chance what so ever to destroy for instance a Löwe with an O-I. And it seems like, when you are playing with friends, the odds of being against much higher tiers is much more likely. 
My friends and I thinks this takes the fun out of playing the tiers above V, because you almost stand no chance against the high end tiers. 
If I que up a game alone, then odds are not as high to get into a match with higher tiers.
So it almost feels like platooning with friends has a much bigger disadvantage than an advantage (I know about the xp-bonus and it's great). Sure you can communicate with your friends, but it does not matter, if any of you are not able to penetrate a single shot. 
I would like platooning with friends to be more like queing alone, where you get to play against tanks one tier higher at most!

Edited by thewillyboy2, 17 April 2018 - 10:31 PM.


Ziurawka #2 Posted 17 April 2018 - 08:32 PM

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It's the only MMo that actively punishes platooning, welcome.

Yes when you are in a platoon of three you will end up being bottom tier most of the time.

WG was about to fix it some patches ago ... then again it's hard to tell since tiers VI-VIII are usually bottom tier nowadays. 

 

If you really like playing with your mates the only workaround I found to work is to platoon a clicker (arty) with a light tank. 

Both of those aren't too affected by being bottom tier. 



unhappy_bunny #3 Posted 17 April 2018 - 08:45 PM

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I have to ask, which gun are you using on the O-I? 

Procjon #4 Posted 17 April 2018 - 08:53 PM

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You got this wrong. Platooning gives advantage as cooperation between 2-3 tanks is always - with exception to players having no idea how to play this game - better than 2-3 tanks randomly playing next to each other.

 

2-3 tanks can easily overtake higher tier by doing coordinated attack. 2 tanks can simply detrack any tank and the 3rd mate can flank it and load all its ammo in the rear.

 

You are upset because you have to play vs higher tier in your platoon. What about other random players playing vs your platoon in the same tier? i believe you just run over them without thinking too much.

 

I call it a life. You just can not have everything your way.

 

HF

 



thewillyboy2 #5 Posted 17 April 2018 - 08:59 PM

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View Postunhappy_bunny, on 17 April 2018 - 08:45 PM, said:

I have to ask, which gun are you using on the O-I? 

 

I am currently using the Type 5 gun :)
 

View PostProcjon, on 17 April 2018 - 08:53 PM, said:

You got this wrong. Platooning gives advantage as cooperation between 2-3 tanks is always - with exception to players having no idea how to play this game - better than 2-3 tanks randomly playing next to each other.

 

2-3 tanks can easily overtake higher tier by doing coordinated attack. 2 tanks can simply detrack any tank and the 3rd mate can flank it and load all its ammo in the rear.

 

You are upset because you have to play vs higher tier in your platoon. What about other random players playing vs your platoon in the same tier? i believe you just run over them without thinking too much.

 

I call it a life. You just can not have everything your way.

 

HF

 

 

I see your point, but it's hard doing a coordinated attack in tier VI and VII because no one is easily outsmarted. The higher tiers has of course a bigger amount of gameplay experience. 
 

Consett_Steel #6 Posted 17 April 2018 - 09:06 PM

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More pertinent question is why at least two people wanted to be called "the willy boy" in game.... 

Balc0ra #7 Posted 17 April 2018 - 09:13 PM

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View Postthewillyboy2, on 17 April 2018 - 08:17 PM, said:

I would like platooning with friends to more like queing alone, where you get to play against tanks one tier higher at most!

 

Oh yeah. If anything will bring out the 3x Defender platoons again. It's that if it becomes an exploit.

thewillyboy2 #8 Posted 17 April 2018 - 09:22 PM

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View PostConsett_Steel, on 17 April 2018 - 09:06 PM, said:

More pertinent question is why at least two people wanted to be called "the willy boy" in game.... 

 

English is not my native language, so when i started playing online games I was not yet aware of what 'willy' otherwise stands for. I simply started using it because it's my nickname (my real name is William). Now I see it's not the most mature name, but honestly I do not care about it.

Nishi_Kinuyo #9 Posted 17 April 2018 - 09:23 PM

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View Postthewillyboy2, on 17 April 2018 - 08:59 PM, said:

 

I am currently using the Type 5 gun :)

Except it has no Type 5 Gun.

The choices it has are the Type 92 and the Type 96.

The tier 5 O-I Experimental has a 7.5cm Tank Gun Type 5, but it shouldn't be able to face tier 8 tanks.



Laukaus #10 Posted 17 April 2018 - 09:27 PM

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View PostProcjon, on 17 April 2018 - 07:53 PM, said:

 

2-3 tanks can easily overtake higher tier by doing coordinated attack. 2 tanks can simply detrack any tank and the 3rd mate can flank it and load all its ammo in the rear.

 

Sounds reasonable. If not happening in the normal WoT map = corridor map...

samuelx43a #11 Posted 17 April 2018 - 09:35 PM

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This happened because a couple patches ago there was a bug in that if you tooned alone, you could be top tier every game. WG resolved this badly by penalizing every toon getting worse MM

Procjon #12 Posted 17 April 2018 - 09:40 PM

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View Postthewillyboy2, on 17 April 2018 - 08:04 PM, said:

 

I see your point, but it's hard doing a coordinated attack in tier VI and VII because no one is easily outsmarted. The higher tiers has of course a bigger amount of gameplay experience. 

 

Higher tiers mean someone played more than you but i can assure you it doesn't mean this person is smarter than you or someone with less games.

 

I've seen players with over 40k games having personal score lower than 2000, for example sitting in MAUS behind arty in the base and waiting for enemy to come. I know coordination is not easy but it is easier to do with your friends than with random strangers having unknown set of skills.

 

HF

 

 

View PostLaukaus, on 17 April 2018 - 08:27 PM, said:

Sounds reasonable. If not happening in the normal WoT map = corridor map...

 

When i know i can not touch enemy higher tank i just simply try to support my other higher tiers or change a flank where i don't have to deal with a tank i can not damage. Simple detracking is really annoyable to any tank, especially if it is done by 2 tiers lower scout :)

 

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View Postthewillyboy2, on 17 April 2018 - 07:17 PM, said:

Hey WoT forum

 

You found forum. That's a good start.

 

View Postthewillyboy2, on 17 April 2018 - 07:17 PM, said:

I recently got into World of Tanks

 

Terrible moment to start playing WoT, or even play at all.

 

View Postthewillyboy2, on 17 April 2018 - 07:17 PM, said:

I think this game is amazing.

 

Not any more. It used to be good 3 years ago, now it's not.

 

View Postthewillyboy2, on 17 April 2018 - 07:17 PM, said:

The reason I got into this game was because of my friends, who were playing this.

 

Quite some friends you have there. Better watch your back. I would have hard time bringing myself to recommend this game to my enemies.

 

View Postthewillyboy2, on 17 April 2018 - 07:17 PM, said:

no chance what so ever to destroy for instance a Löwe with an O-I.

 

Oh. You play Jap HT tree. Well, that settles it. You deserve everything bad that happens to you.



Panzerfighter_ #14 Posted 18 April 2018 - 12:30 AM

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View PostZiurawka, on 17 April 2018 - 08:32 PM, said:

It's the only MMo that actively punishes platooning, welcome.

Yes when you are in a platoon of three you will end up being bottom tier most of the time.

 

Thats it or when u play T10 with 2 other buddies u get T10mm only. That sucks massive cause our clan is build around randoms only. If i want T10 mm only i could play CW or whatever there is.

 

I cant play T8 with clan mates anymore, that would result in 95% T10 games, T8 MM is already bad if u play solo.

 

In other games clans own whole servers and enjoy a good farm 24/7, Wot punish you for playing in a platoon.


Edited by Panzerfighter_, 18 April 2018 - 12:32 AM.


Enforcer1975 #15 Posted 18 April 2018 - 01:20 AM

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Change the title to "the disadvantage of rushing tiers"...srsly not even 600 games and already driving around in tier 6. There is no need to rush. I was still around tier 5 around 3k games and didn't start platooning until way later. I wanted to have more experience before i go tomato on my toonmates and ruin their games and tbh even then i was reluctant because i didn't know if i could deliver what they expected.

Spek_en_Bonen #16 Posted 18 April 2018 - 11:01 AM

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I used to at the very least get the crews to 100% (whenever I didn't buy a 100% crew with the tank).

That way, you get to know the tank (it's capabilities) and learn how to play the basic game.

 

 



Excavatus #17 Posted 18 April 2018 - 02:31 PM

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Wellcome to the one and only MMO (massively multiplayer online) game based on teamwork, which punishes people who happens to have friends and want to play as a team :)

 

WG at its best!



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Dear OP, I feel your pain but the reason behind this is that WG dont want you to feel the let downs of the current MM even more. Imagine you end up with a top tier platoon full of donkeys vs an enemy top tier platoon full of unicums. The number of roflstomp 15:0 results would increase even more then in its current state, special in 3/5/7 MM. Currently MM searches for 3/5/7 first... would it look for 5/10 MM first we had much less troubles with the game in its current state but WG devs think its fine as it is... cyka

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View PostExcavatus, on 18 April 2018 - 02:31 PM, said:

Wellcome to the one and only MMO (massively multiplayer online) game based on teamwork, which punishes people who happens to have friends and want to play as a team :)

 

WG at its best!

 

I don't have friends...only 199 noobs who share the same fetish for fish like i do. :hiding:

NoobySkooby #20 Posted 18 April 2018 - 05:08 PM

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Platooning is a hit and miss affair, in fact pretty much like the gameplay itself, :D If it is with people you know mostly it is fun, but for it to really succeed, then you all need to able to communicate by either using Discord, or Teamspeak, that believe it or not can really make a difference, and if it all comes together, and you carry the team onto victory like true heroes, then the rest of the team will swoon in total awe at your awesome gameplay.............

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ok that last bit I made up, more than likely you will get flamed and abused, but still if it all comes together it is pretty awesome:trollface:







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