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AthairX #1 Posted 19 April 2018 - 05:22 PM

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Is-6 ? 11k gold ? Wargaming dont you think you forgot about Is-6 a bit ? 112 much better pen on heat , better frontal armor and cheaper ? why ... ?

217 penetration vs type 4 , amx m4 51 , obj 705  where He is almoust always 0 damage and so on... You put new supertanks in the game then leave is-6 for 11k gold in the shop . why... ?

 

 



Balc0ra #2 Posted 19 April 2018 - 05:35 PM

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KV-5 is going to get buffed first, then the IS-6. What will happen to the IS-6 is depended on what they do to the KV-5. As in if they get a massive pen buff and lose their pref MM or not.

 

And the IS-6 is a medium now anyway. Stay away from the HT line.



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View PostAthairX, on 19 April 2018 - 04:22 PM, said:

Is-6 ? 11k gold ? Wargaming dont you think you forgot about Is-6 a bit ? 112 much better pen on heat , better frontal armor and cheaper ? why ... ?

217 penetration vs type 4 , amx m4 51 , obj 705  where He is almoust always 0 damage and so on... You put new supertanks in the game then leave is-6 for 11k gold in the shop . why... ?

 

 

 

OP you did not use the search function.

If you had you would have seen what Balc0ra says above is absolutely correct.

 

WG have already announced that they intend to re-work the KV-5 first and second the IS-6. They have also said that this has proved "difficult" and that they are uncertain as to the way forward. Clearly both tanks were sold with preferential Match Making. If this is taken away will they need to refund paying customers? They choose to with the earlier SuperPershing re-work. If the Preferential Match Making remains for the KV-5 and IS-6, then what buffs can WG make?

 

WG clearly want to sell more KV-5 and IS-6, and Russian speakers are they biggest and most important customers, and they prefer to buy USSR ingame vehicles. So WG is trying to strike a balance between selling more, and the buffs they need to give the two tanks to make them viable again for mass sale in the premium shop, whilst not making them OP.

 

Do not expect a buff SoonTM  , but one will come eventually.



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Needs some love, hope it wil not come SoonTM

Balc0ra #5 Posted 19 April 2018 - 05:55 PM

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View Postarthurwellsley, on 19 April 2018 - 05:46 PM, said:

 

 If the Preferential Match Making remains for the KV-5 and IS-6, then what buffs can WG make?

 

Personally I would not mind them removing it from my IS-6 if the pen buff was good enough. As the worst thing about it atm... is equal tier games full of VK 100.01's, Patriots and Defenders with 175 pen. As pref MM tanks see that more vs my non pref MM tier 8 tanks.

 

If they keep the pref MM, the AP pen needs to go to at least over 200. 212 would still be perfect IMO. Kinda like the IS-M.... that actually has armor. And the IS-6's gold pen to at least 240 to 250 like the Chinese 122mm guns.



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View PostBalc0ra, on 19 April 2018 - 05:55 PM, said:

 

Personally I would not mind them removing it from my IS-6 if the pen buff was good enough. As the worst thing about it atm... is equal tier games full of VK 100.01's, Patriots and Defenders with 175 pen. As pref MM tanks see that more vs my non pref MM tier 8 tanks.

 

If they keep the pref MM, the AP pen needs to go to at least over 200. 212 would still be perfect IMO. Kinda like the IS-M.... that actually has armor. And the IS-6's gold pen to at least 240 to 250 like the Chinese 122mm guns.

 

212 KV 5

230 IS 6 + armor buff

 

Then they can trade pmm, if it's less they will still be obsolete :girl:



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View PostBalc0ra, on 19 April 2018 - 04:35 PM, said:

KV-5 is going to get buffed first, then the IS-6. What will happen to the IS-6 is depended on what they do to the KV-5. As in if they get a massive pen buff and lose their pref MM or not.

 

And the IS-6 is a medium now anyway. Stay away from the HT line.

 

I ran my old KV5 for a few dozen games recently and found it did surprisingly well.  Does it even need a buff?

 

Happy for it to have one of course.



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View PostBulldog_Drummond, on 20 April 2018 - 12:11 AM, said:

 

I ran my old KV5 for a few dozen games recently and found it did surprisingly well.  Does it even need a buff?

 

Happy for it to have one of course.

 

Well as a ramming tool, not really. And I still have IS-6 rounds with no gold used the few times I do take it out. As it's still capable of it if the opposing force has "kind" enough HT armor. But sub 170 pen and 217 gold pen is not fantastic either in the current super heavy meta for the KV-5 always. Even vs equal tier super heavies.

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View PostBulldog_Drummond, on 20 April 2018 - 12:11 AM, said:

 

I ran my old KV5 for a few dozen games recently and found it did surprisingly well.  Does it even need a buff?

 

Happy for it to have one of course.

 

It has been buffed a while ago, mainly to the armour thickness. In any case, the KV5 is one of those weird tanks that look terrible on paper, yet somehow seem to do well, despite all the powercreep

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AthairX #10 Posted 21 April 2018 - 04:11 PM

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But still selling now the IS-6 for 11800 gold is kind of is thievery , especialy for new players. And it is not like : you dont like it don't play it learn an other tank and play other tank ... You actualy payed real money for it ,a lot off. 

Edited by AthairX, 21 April 2018 - 04:28 PM.


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View PostAthairX, on 21 April 2018 - 03:11 PM, said:

But still selling now the IS-6 for 11800 gold is kind of is thievery , especialy for new players. And it is not like : you dont like it don't play it learn an other tank and play other tank ... You actualy payed real money for it ,a lot off. 

 

Yes, well if there are people who download the game, never visit the forums or do any research and go and visit premium shop looking for what would on surface appear to be good choice...only later to discover they got something of questionable parentage (the biggest lemon meet the last turkey in the shop)....

 

...the blanket advice should be, don't buy from the premium shop unless you know what you are doing, and especially not anything that has that fishy 'VIII' close to its name.. unless it is the Defender, of course.



Graeme0 #12 Posted 21 April 2018 - 07:20 PM

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The IS6 was always a low pen tank, but it had troll armour that balanced it. Nowadays the armour is meh.

 

I'll be glad when they sort it, maybe I'll start playing it again. There's no point ATM which is a shame.



AthairX #13 Posted 22 April 2018 - 09:50 AM

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I convinced 2 freinds of mine , warthunder players to start playing wot with me. What to play? , Russian tanks , before I realised they both did buy the is-6 , after a month of playing they quited the game "cuz this game suckz". Ofc after you brought with 11800 gold a shittank as new player you will not buy again an other tank ...

The game is not supposed to be like : YOU MUST DIG IN THE FORUMS AND DO REASERCH TO FIND OUT WARGAMING IS SELLING BETTER TANKS FOR 7000-8000 GOLD. And one of the moust expensive tanks in the game is the WORST! And the only russian T8 heavy premium tank what you can buy!

And they must wonder why players leave the game.


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