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Do you shoot gold in your tier 8 prems

  1. Yes (67 votes [65.69%])

    Percentage of vote: 65.69%

  2. No (29 votes [28.43%])

    Percentage of vote: 28.43%

  3. I dont own a tier 8 prem (6 votes [5.88%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.88%

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Corruption_Clan #1 Posted 22 April 2018 - 10:23 AM

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So i generally play a lot of tier 8 prem games (t-44-100 and t25 pilot (2 tanks that are not exactly hard to pen) and the reason being I play these tanks to make money.

 

However lately I have been notice a lot of games recently where other people in their premium tanks are shooting pure gold at my premium tanks, when all they need to do is load normal ammo and they will pen me 90% of the time.

 

Am I missing something here?? Or are people playing these premium tanks for anything but money grinding???


Edited by Corruption_Clan, 22 April 2018 - 11:30 AM.


SlyMeerkat #2 Posted 22 April 2018 - 10:27 AM

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I have Premium rounds loaded in my tanks how ever i use them ONLY when needed and do try my best to avoid them if i can because where is the skill in that by just spamming it?..... I enjoy learning weak spots and using the correct ammo for the given situation as best i can :)

BravelyRanAway #3 Posted 22 April 2018 - 10:32 AM

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View PostCorruption_Clan, on 22 April 2018 - 09:23 AM, said:

Am I missing something here?? Or are people playing these premium tanks for anything but money grinding???

I suppose as the game is out a long time now, some players just like me just CBA about grinding anymore and just play what they have. I don't shoot a lot of gold but if it's loaded and you pass my sights, I'll give it to you as I don't think you'll wait around for me to reload.



Corruption_Clan #4 Posted 22 April 2018 - 10:39 AM

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View PostBravelyRanAway, on 22 April 2018 - 09:32 AM, said:

I suppose as the game is out a long time now, some players just like me just CBA about grinding anymore and just play what they have. I don't shoot a lot of gold but if it's loaded and you pass my sights, I'll give it to you as I don't think you'll wait around for me to reload.

 

Yeh i take that but these guys are shooting gold after gold lol.

 

Its like they dont have any standard ammo



Bad_Mojo_incoming #5 Posted 22 April 2018 - 10:48 AM

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View PostCorruption_Clan, on 22 April 2018 - 10:23 AM, said:

So i generally play a lot of tier 8 prem games (t-44-100 and t25 pilot (2 tanks that are not exactly hard to pen) and the reason being I play these tanks to make money.

 

However lately I have been notice a lot of games recently where other people in their premium tanks are shooting pure gold at my premium tanks, when all they need to do is load normal ammo and they will pen me 90% of the time.

 

Am I missing something here?? Or are people playing these premium tanks for anything but money grinding???

 

Why do you care what other players play their T8 premium tanks for and what they shoot you with?

If you are in a 'lightly' armored premium and you get shot by gold ammo, completely needlessly, then just laugh at the shooter, who does this as he/she is burning credits needlessly.

I too shoot gold ammo in my premium tanks, cz I pretty much have no other choice as I usually get MM-es up with tier 10s, where you can put your AP rounds where the sun doesn't shine. All 'farming' premiums I have, Blackdog, Mod1, Revo, Panther88 and the KR have 190-200 pen which is pretty useless against tier 10s, I don't have any of the new 'high pen' garbage as I'm not buying any more tanks, I have fed WG enough money as it is.



Corruption_Clan #6 Posted 22 April 2018 - 10:53 AM

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View PostBad_Mojo_incoming, on 22 April 2018 - 09:48 AM, said:

 

Why do you care what other players play their T8 premium tanks for and what they shoot you with?

If you are in a 'lightly' armored premium and you get shot by gold ammo, completely needlessly, then just laugh at the shooter, who does this as he/she is burning credits needlessly.

I too shoot gold ammo in my premium tanks, cz I pretty much have no other choice as I usually get MM-es up with tier 10s, where you can put your AP rounds where the sun doesn't shine. All 'farming' premiums I have, Blackdog, Mod1, Revo, Panther88 and the KR have 190-200 pen which is pretty useless against tier 10s, I don't have any of the new 'high pen' garbage as I'm not buying any more tanks, I have fed WG enough money as it is.

 

Trying to create a discussion here....

 

Like you say tho "farming premiums".... if youa re trully "farming", why shoot gold ??



Ziurawka #7 Posted 22 April 2018 - 10:53 AM

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I don't care about profitability of prems at all, especially at tier VIII right now. Roughly a half of the enemy team you usually get can't be penned frontally so what's the point loading anything else? 

Especially in slowly reloading guns switching ammo types is really painful. With the marathon in progress it seems both teams sort of yolo&die / camp&die so the battle is actually resolved in like 2 minutes.

How much time and space does it give you to actually flank something or experiment with ammo choices? Squat. 

 

I play most of my prems 50/50 but tend to switch to premium during the course of the battle if I feel it's gonna get silly. 

A decently played Type 59 can fire gold only and still make a tiny profit without premium :)


Edited by Ziurawka, 22 April 2018 - 10:54 AM.


ThinGun #8 Posted 22 April 2018 - 10:58 AM

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I shoot only gold at Tier 8, because it annoys the hell out of people.  That gives me a tactical advantage.

Erwin_Von_Braun #9 Posted 22 April 2018 - 10:58 AM

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Nope.

Have it loaded, just don't play my Tier VIII prems - too much aggro.



Corruption_Clan #10 Posted 22 April 2018 - 10:58 AM

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View PostZiurawka, on 22 April 2018 - 09:53 AM, said:

I don't care about profitability of prems at all, especially at tier VIII right now. Roughly a half of the enemy team you usually get can't be penned frontally so what's the point loading anything else? 

Especially in slowly reloading guns switching amo types is really painful. With the marathon in progress it seems both teams sort of yolo&die / camp&die so the battle is actually resolved in like 2 minutes.

How much time and space does it give you to actually flank something or experiment with ammo choices? Squat. 

 

I play most of my prems 50/50 but tend to switch to premium during the course of the battle if I feel it's gonna get silly. 

 

Not having a go here... but why play premiums at all if you are going to complain about the matchmaker and because of this anticipate having to shoot gold.

 

If you are happy going into a game with a premium tank loading pure gold so expecting to make a loss. Why play these premiums with this current MM as like you say. you are expecting to go up against something you cant pen with normal ammo, which makes me think, why not choose a tank to play with a better pen?



_b_ #11 Posted 22 April 2018 - 10:58 AM

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Super heavies and arty only....

 

Otherwise I try to only shoot normal ammo...unless being spammed by it first. Then I'll return the favour :)



Corruption_Clan #12 Posted 22 April 2018 - 11:00 AM

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View PostThinGun, on 22 April 2018 - 09:58 AM, said:

I shoot only gold at Tier 8, because it annoys the hell out of people.  That gives me a tactical advantage.

 

and how do you know it annoys the person you are shooting?

Ziurawka #13 Posted 22 April 2018 - 11:11 AM

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View PostCorruption_Clan, on 22 April 2018 - 10:58 AM, said:

 

Not having a go here... but why play premiums at all if you are going to complain about the matchmaker and because of this anticipate having to shoot gold.

 

If you are happy going into a game with a premium tank loading pure gold so expecting to make a loss. Why play these premiums with this current MM as like you say. you are expecting to go up against something you cant pen with normal ammo, which makes me think, why not choose a tank to play with a better pen?

 

The reason is in exactly what I've said before - running a decent prem decently you can make a tiny profit even if you end up unloading all the gold on you. 

That can't be done using a regular tank, you'll end up losing credits each battle and it gets really brutal on high tiers.  

Sure a regular tank might have better pen on standard, but it still won't be usually good enough to crack the corridor stalemates that seem to be the current meta. 

 

 



Thejagdpanther #14 Posted 22 April 2018 - 11:13 AM

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The idea

"im on an normal armored tank and it's irrilevant if they shoot me gold or standard because they will pen me anyway", it's on of the most stupid and cancerous argument of the game.

Also those tanks have a small chance to bounce some rounds. He mentioned the t44-100, the turret can bounce standard ammo with some derp accuracy or bad shots, but with gold it's a different story.

 


Edited by Thejagdpanther, 22 April 2018 - 11:16 AM.


Condono #15 Posted 22 April 2018 - 11:15 AM

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Bad_Mojo_incoming #16 Posted 22 April 2018 - 11:30 AM

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View PostCorruption_Clan, on 22 April 2018 - 10:53 AM, said:

 

Trying to create a discussion here....

 

Like you say tho "farming premiums".... if youa re trully "farming", why shoot gold ??

 

Yeah, tired to create a discussion myself a few times, only to be shortly 'yelled down' by other forum dwellers. Sorry, if it sounded like that.

And I meant to say, I shoot gold in my premiums when I need to. Obviously, I won't shoot gold ammo at tier 6-7 or fellow tier 8 tanks (whenever something goes wrong with the MM and I become top tier...which happens about once or twice every 10-15 games) cz 190-200 pen is usually enough to wreck them.

 

Since, I don't really run a premium account anymore, except on occasions when we can platoon up and grind. I need to save credits as much as I can, that's why it's so frustrating that you get low tier about 80-90% of the times when trying to farm in tier 8. Tier 8 is now the worse tier to play in the game.

I can honestly say I can farm better in a tier 5-6 premium tank than in a tier 8. Or even non premium tanks if you are good with them. For me, I won't have premium level income, sure, but it's much more satisfying to play my VK16 Leopard and constantly be in the top 98% of the players, and I can grind out 10-20k credits profit without a premium account.

 

I might even go as far as to say, if you buy a years worth of premium time (which is the cheaper then to by 30 day every month), then you don't NEED a premium tank at all for farming!


Edited by Bad_Mojo_incoming, 22 April 2018 - 11:31 AM.


Corruption_Clan #17 Posted 22 April 2018 - 11:35 AM

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View PostCondono, on 22 April 2018 - 10:15 AM, said:

 



Strappster #18 Posted 22 April 2018 - 11:41 AM

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Voted yes but only because there's no option for "when I need to". Except in low-tier premiums like the Valentine II and Locust, then it's gold all the way because they're not going to make piles of credits anyway.

250swb #19 Posted 22 April 2018 - 12:10 PM

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View PostStrappster, on 22 April 2018 - 10:41 AM, said:

Voted yes but only because there's no option for "when I need to". Except in low-tier premiums like the Valentine II and Locust, then it's gold all the way because they're not going to make piles of credits anyway.

 

Same here, I voted 'yes' but it's a trick question by the OP aimed at making premium ammo a moral issue in the game so he can claim the moral high ground. This is why he calls it 'gold' ammo, an inaccurate description in itself but emotionally loaded in meaning.

 

I shoot some premium ammo, and never have a full premium loadout. But the OP is barking up the wrong tree, a Lowe can still make profit shooting gold all battle and many other premium tanks can do the same, so equating premium ammo with loss of credits would usually only apply to bad players. So if it works and credits can be made then using premium ammo becomes an intellectual judgement, far and away from the sensationalism the OP wants to stir up.

 

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Edited by 250swb, 22 April 2018 - 12:11 PM.


LCpl_Jones #20 Posted 22 April 2018 - 01:23 PM

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Does a bear crap in the woods?  :teethhappy:

 


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