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avr7002 #1 Posted 22 April 2018 - 05:58 PM

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121 need buff or removed into tier 9. In tier 10 place it is just wasted slot. It is hard to balance to any other tier 10 tanks. It cant work on distance, because gun handling and penetration is too bad for sniper shots. It cant work on close distance, because it has no armour. All tanks pen its turret from front with normal ammo. It is just point and shoot tank. It cant reach any medium tank spots, too slow. On medium distance it has no armour nor gun handling or agility for snapshots. Not to mention bad gun depression. I have near 1000 battles, with very good crew and BIA, vent and food. All solo random. WR is 43. Tank is very RNG dependant. Usually I have 1 good battle with about 3000 dmg and then 2 bad battles with low dmg. After battle report shows often 8 shots fired, 3 hits, 1 pen. I use lot of gold ammo, but there is practically no difference, gold ammo didnt pen nothing but E100.



spuriousmonkey #2 Posted 22 April 2018 - 07:17 PM

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I agree with the buff, and only because it has absolutely nothing going for it besides a little bit more alpha. And for that it gets punished in all other areas of the gun dynamics.

 

Just give it the IS-3 gun. That gun is better than the current one.



SenpaiKun #3 Posted 30 May 2018 - 09:28 PM

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it's crap, nor armor, no speed, crapgun, nothing

SenpaiKun #4 Posted 30 May 2018 - 09:29 PM

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every other soviet med is better in any other aspect, except alfa, but what is the use of big alfa when you are dead and can't bloody do anyhting

Flavortown #5 Posted 30 May 2018 - 10:51 PM

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give it 490 alpha :hiding:

KillingJoker #6 Posted 30 May 2018 - 10:53 PM

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Considering the itnroduction of the 430U and the fact the 121 is so rarely seen in games i think its gun handling of the 121 needs to be improved 

in order to at least have something other tanks dont offer.

 

the gun depression is poor, the aimtime is worse than the competition, the dispersion etc etc, thouse things must be changed so people can have a motive to use it over other options.



Beltalowda #7 Posted 30 May 2018 - 11:17 PM

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There is only one Nation in WoT WG cares about and it ain't Chinese. 6 out of last 8 updates were heavily focused on improving Soviet vehicles, this is not gonna change.

 

If it ain't Soviet no one in WG would even consider looking at the possibility of a buff.



IZMIR_METRO #8 Posted 30 May 2018 - 11:54 PM

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I have an idea of 121 will be next powercreep after a year or so for WG's new free exp money milker tank (like Maus, t110e5, wtf e100, bobject)

IZMIR_METRO #9 Posted 30 May 2018 - 11:55 PM

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View PostTrewSx, on 30 May 2018 - 11:17 PM, said:

There is only one Nation in WoT WG cares about and it ain't Chinese. 6 out of last 8 updates were heavily focused on improving Soviet vehicles, this is not gonna change.

 

If it ain't Soviet no one in WG would even consider looking at the possibility of a buff.

WG doesn't care about nationality, they trade blood for money 



IZMIR_METRO #10 Posted 30 May 2018 - 11:57 PM

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View Postavr7002, on 22 April 2018 - 05:58 PM, said:

121 need buff or removed into tier 9. In tier 10 place it is just wasted slot. It is hard to balance to any other tier 10 tanks. It cant work on distance, because gun handling and penetration is too bad for sniper shots. It cant work on close distance, because it has no armour. All tanks pen its turret from front with normal ammo. It is just point and shoot tank. It cant reach any medium tank spots, too slow. On medium distance it has no armour nor gun handling or agility for snapshots. Not to mention bad gun depression. I have near 1000 battles, with very good crew and BIA, vent and food. All solo random. WR is 43. Tank is very RNG dependant. Usually I have 1 good battle with about 3000 dmg and then 2 bad battles with low dmg. After battle report shows often 8 shots fired, 3 hits, 1 pen. I use lot of gold ammo, but there is practically no difference, gold ammo didnt pen nothing but E100.

Yes it's the most obvious tier 10 that desperates for buff but WG doesn't care about player feedback neither this forum 

 

They don't even care about their community contributors ideas (watch MarkGFL rant)


Edited by IZMIR_METRO, 30 May 2018 - 11:58 PM.


ValkyrionX #11 Posted 31 May 2018 - 08:28 AM

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121 is fine, this tank need only more armor in the turret.. 240 on the front is not good.. 270 can be better for the front turret , and +20 on the frontal hull




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