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When is the AMX 30B gun going to receive a buff?

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stderr #1 Posted 28 April 2018 - 05:05 PM


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The AMX 30b's gun (105 mm mle. F1) is way, way underpowered for the battle tiers of a T10 medium. The gun suits the AMX 30 1er prototype just fine, with the battle tiers that comes with a T9 tank. But having the same gun mounted at a T10 AMX 30 just doesn't cut it. Is has the worst penetration rate of all T10 mediums, and it really shows when looking at how many people really want play this tank. Only 2% of the T10 medium games are played with AMX 30b. That's worse than any other T10 medium by far. (source: vbAddict, last 30 days from 18-04-28)

I know the TVP T 50/51 has the same penetration value (248) but it's an autoloader and comes with a different play style. Also, it's premium ammo is slightly better (310 vs 300).


As it is now. The AMX 30b is just a AMX 30 1er prototype with a higher battle tier. There isn't enough improvement of the tank, to really justify the AMX 30b being a tier higher. Actually... The ill fitted 30b cupola may be considered to make it a worse tank to play than it's lower tier sibling.


Either buff it, or remove it. That's my two cents...


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Balc0ra #2 Posted 28 April 2018 - 05:28 PM

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Well.. 2nd lowest pen. Then again the last time it was buffed, it got the highest DPM of any tier X med. And with buffs the guns got the last time, along with the turret armor buffs. The tier 9 at least made me sell the Leo PT A. As it was 100% useless vs the AMX 30. Many feel the same over the Leo 1 vs the 30 B . As before those buffs. The tier 9/X was terrible vs everything else.

TheOddRogue #3 Posted 28 April 2018 - 05:43 PM

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Only problem it has it that 248 Standard and 300 HEAT prem penetration isn't competitive in tier 10 and you will struggle to pen alot of tanks. In tier 9 though it competetive and thus why amx 30 is a god tank. 


You're right, it's an utterly pointless upgrade going from tier 9 to 10, the tier 9 is godlike. 

stderr #4 Posted 28 April 2018 - 05:47 PM


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View PostBalc0ra, on 28 April 2018 - 04:28 PM, said:

Well.. 2nd lowest pen.


  I wrote worst penetration values, percent of hits actually penetrating. But which T10 meduim has worse than 248?

Edited by stderr, 28 April 2018 - 05:51 PM.

Celution #5 Posted 28 April 2018 - 06:30 PM


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The rebalance of the AMX 30 B made it very awkward for the reason that its current design is contradictory. Basically, the platform (the tank itself) wants to stay at range due to excellent base view range and mobilty combined with negligible armour (partly due to the huge cupola that makes the trollish gun mantlet redundant). However, the gun is made for close-medium range snapshotting due to rather poor accuracy, excellent gun handling, relatively low penetration, poor shell velocity on the APCR and abysmal shell velocity on the HEAT shells, in combination with best-in-class DPM potential. The result is a vehicle that serves no clear purpose or role, and just has a mixture of statistics that contradict each other.


In other words, it's neither under- nor overpowered. It can't be improved through flat buffs, as its design is bad and needs a review.

Edited by Celution, 29 April 2018 - 11:30 AM.

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