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Killtech #1 Posted 30 April 2018 - 02:03 PM

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with the big changes to the end of the Soviet tech tree and WGs attempting to unify the gameplay within each branch i was wondering what this could mean for the US tree (even if WG said they won't do such reworks in the near future).

 

So i looked at the Sheridan line and of course there is a big jump in gameplay from tier VIII to IX. and after remembering how the M5 Stuart originally played (with the 75 mm howitzer as its top gun, historically named M8) i took a look whether there is a chance of a complete derp gun scout line. i didn't find that much apart from the M8 mentioned before and T88 that could fit in as a light tank considering the mobility of the hellcat. but i guess there might be some more projects and proposals that weren't build. on the other hand i saw that there are probably enough concepts to make a light autoloader tanks line go all to the top with things like the Cadillac TMG proposal and others.

 

There are also some derp gun equipped mediums i tripped over during my search, particularly the M60a2 Starship which uses a similar gun as the Sheridan. In fact there are already some derp medium tanks present in the current US tree but only as alternative guns for various M4s and even the Pershing. however they aren't of any use in practice although historically the 105mm howitzer equipped M4s saw intensive anti-tank use. still these howitzers are lackluster in the game and there aren't any obvious upgrades for higher mid tiers. the only existing other candidates i found were these things, the the T90 and M728 Combat Engineer Vehicle. but i guess with some more digging there could be enough paper projects to fill the holes and provide viable upgrades to make a consistent derp gun medium line out of it.


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Homer_J #2 Posted 30 April 2018 - 02:25 PM

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If the story is true that there's been another change of staff at WG then hopefully this stupid boring unified line idea will have died.

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T71 (either variant) with a Derp?:ohmy:

That's what I read:hiding:

That's what I want!:izmena:



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View PostHomer_J, on 30 April 2018 - 02:25 PM, said:

If the story is true that there's been another change of staff at WG then hopefully this stupid boring unified line idea will have died.

 

Potentially a bit scary if true though... radical changes of staff are a sign of the end.

Homer_J #5 Posted 30 April 2018 - 04:17 PM

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View PostDracheimFlug, on 30 April 2018 - 04:14 PM, said:

 

Potentially a bit scary if true though... radical changes of staff are a sign of the end.

 

Then the game ended in 2011 when Overlord moved on to other projects.

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But you didn't read a line in the link you posted.

 

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 The M60A2 was designed as a stop-gap vehicle until the joint US-German MBT-70 project was ready for service.

 

The MBT-70 was also a failed tank design. And despite of the unquestionable fun factor a high tier derp gun gives you we all know that WG will nerf that thing to the ground that you can't even hit the inside of a barn with the 152mm....



Killtech #7 Posted 30 April 2018 - 05:47 PM

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View PostEnforcer1975, on 30 April 2018 - 03:33 PM, said:

But you didn't read a line in the link you posted.

 

The MBT-70 was also a failed tank design. And despite of the unquestionable fun factor a high tier derp gun gives you we all know that WG will nerf that thing to the ground that you can't even hit the inside of a barn with the 152mm....

 

oh, missed the part where the MBT-70 also used a 152 gun/launcher. however given that a M60 variant is already a tier X and that the regular M48 is just an upgrade to M60 standard i didn't consider tank designs going beyond that. squeezing the startship down to tier IX might perhaps work but balancing the MBT-70 to tier X means a severe nerfing of its actual stats i would assume. 



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View PostHomer_J, on 30 April 2018 - 04:17 PM, said:

 

Then the game ended in 2011 when Overlord moved on to other projects.

 

who's overlord?

DracheimFlug #9 Posted 30 April 2018 - 07:13 PM

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View PostHomer_J, on 30 April 2018 - 04:17 PM, said:

 

Then the game ended in 2011 when Overlord moved on to other projects.

 

One staff member, even a prominent one moving on is potentially a radical staff change, but not radical staff changes.

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View PostEnforcer1975, on 30 April 2018 - 04:33 PM, said:

...you can't even hit the inside of a barn with the 152mm....

 

We can solve that. Just make barns GREAT again!

 

I actually wouldn't mind a derp scout line much, as long as it isn't over-the-top or seriously competitive. And the VK2801 needs its real gun back.



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View PostSnowRelic, on 30 April 2018 - 10:38 PM, said:

 

We can solve that. Just make barns GREAT again!

 

I actually wouldn't mind a derp scout line much, as long as it isn't over-the-top or seriously competitive. And the VK2801 needs its real gun back.

 

So basically a 7.5cm L/43 according to the wiki...

Killtech #12 Posted 30 April 2018 - 11:58 PM

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View PostSnowRelic, on 30 April 2018 - 09:38 PM, said:

View PostEnforcer1975, on 30 April 2018 - 03:33 PM, said:

...you can't even hit the inside of a barn with the 152mm....

We can solve that. Just make barns GREAT again!

 

well, admittedly 1 barn is actually a pretty small target, at least in physical terms... and relative to a tank gun. look it up

https://en.wikipedia...wiki/Barn_(unit)

 

yes, in nuclear physics target sizes are measured in barn...


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View PostCamperKaempfer, on 30 April 2018 - 06:54 PM, said:

 

who's overlord?

 

I have no idea either of who he is, but I cannot see WG going bankrupt anytime soon,politically motivated to make any tank other then Russian ones crap maybe but never bankrupt

Homer_J #14 Posted 01 May 2018 - 07:15 AM

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View PostCamperKaempfer, on 30 April 2018 - 06:54 PM, said:

 

who's overlord?

 

The guy who posted this thread.

 

Or you could check out his blog.

 

He used to run a Q&A thread on these forums too before the Paris team were formed.

 

Anyway, there have been many many staff changes at WG over the years, none has signalled the end.



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T49 with the derp is a stupid tank anyway, just basically an RNG arty on a light tank platform, just get rid of the derps and problem solved. 

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View PostSimeon85, on 01 May 2018 - 10:59 AM, said:

T49 with the derp is a stupid awesome fun tank anyway, just basically an RNG arty on a light tank platform, just get rid more  of these derps and Obj.268v4 problem solved. 

 

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