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Search_Warrant #1 Posted 02 May 2018 - 08:55 PM

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Driving my Type62 with 145pen and 180 alpha facing tier 9 tanks. just what exactly am i supposed to do? last match before that i got shot at 3 times by arty and that took all my hitpoints because they splashed me. i cant fire on the move at the distance they saw me at so if i stop to shoot they nail me.

 

this balance is getting out of hand. V4's facing tier 8. tier 8 facing tier 6. tier 7 facing tier 9. what the hell is going on here? the balance is just completely broken. +2mm used to be a good thing. now the more i look at it, it just looks terrible with the current MM changes and powercreeps between tiers.

 

I really dont want to say this. but +1 -1 MM looks more and more like a better option here. the games breaking badly. WG have messed up big time.

 

Edit: just tried circle a ferdi, got cought out in front. still wasent fast enough in my LIGHT TANK to move faster than his turn rate and he super high rolled me for 600 in a FERDINAND. bam dead my tier 7 LT is gone and outturned by a god dam FERDI.


Edited by Search_Warrant, 02 May 2018 - 09:04 PM.


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Use 220 pen shells instead. 

Evilier_than_Skeletor #3 Posted 02 May 2018 - 08:59 PM

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View PostSearch_Warrant, on 02 May 2018 - 08:55 PM, said:

just what exactly am i suppsoed to do?

 

This guide is from the most recent dev Q&A:



Rati_Festa #4 Posted 02 May 2018 - 09:00 PM

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View PostSearch_Warrant, on 02 May 2018 - 08:55 PM, said:

Driving my Type62 with 145pen and 180 alpha facing tier 9 tanks. just what exactly am i suppsoed to do? last match before that i got shot at 3 times by arty and that took all my hitpoints because they splashed me. i cant fire on the move at the distance they saw me at so if i stop to shoot they nail me.

 

this balance is getting out of hand. V4's facing tier 8. tier 8 facing tier 6. tier 7 facing tier 9. what the hell is going on here? the balance is just completely broken. +2mm used to be a good thing. now the more i look at it, it just looks terrible with the current MM changes and powercreeps between tiers.

 

I really dont want to say this. but +1 -1 MM looks more and more like a better option here. the games breaking badly. WG have messed up big time.

 

The Type62 is OP in pretty much all battles. If ur playing against t9 u should be playing as a pure scout, survive to end and mop up. Not worrying about penning tanks 2 tiers higher.

 

That current post called "no one knows how to scout anymore" one word apt.



Search_Warrant #5 Posted 02 May 2018 - 09:07 PM

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View PostRati_Festa, on 02 May 2018 - 08:00 PM, said:

 

The Type62 is OP in pretty much all battles. If ur playing against t9 u should be playing as a pure scout, survive to end and mop up. Not worrying about penning tanks 2 tiers higher.

 

That current post called "no one knows how to scout anymore" one word apt.

 

It was that 1 sandy map where lights have 0 reason to exist. the annoying sand dune in mid with the white brick things and the mini circle thing. it was being dominated by there team and theyw as holding off the heavy corner good enough. i had 0 opening and they roll over and a Patton just righ roll 3 shots me and i can do nothing about it becuase my LT goes a pathetic 60 with crap acceleration.

 

My friends are saying the same thing. "its just a graphic patch, the game still sucks and its getting worse" thanks WG. thanks for not only ruining this game but making my friends leave.


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Not guilty this time 

Sprouts anyone 



Rati_Festa #7 Posted 02 May 2018 - 09:17 PM

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View PostSearch_Warrant, on 02 May 2018 - 09:07 PM, said:

 

It was that 1 sandy map where lights have 0 reason to exist. the annoying sand dune in mid with the white brick things and the mini circle thing. it was being dominated by there team and theyw as holding off the heavy corner good enough. i had 0 opening and they roll over and a Patton just righ roll 3 shots me and i can do nothing about it becuase my LT goes a pathetic 60 with crap acceleration.

 

My friends are saying the same thing. "its just a graphic patch, the game still sucks and its getting worse" thanks WG. thanks for not only ruining this game but making my friends leave.

So not a corridor map and as the enemy had 3 arty your team had 3 arty. A light tank with excellent view range and 3 clickers eager for targets...  why are you struggling to assist your team?



K_A #8 Posted 02 May 2018 - 09:28 PM

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Forget padding your WN8 in the early game, spot instead. Only take shots you know you can pen. If you wanna circle strafe ppl in the late game or anyone who's just caught with their pants down, don't just rely on your speed but go for tracking shots to make it easier.

TungstenHitman #9 Posted 02 May 2018 - 09:33 PM

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fwhaatpiraat #10 Posted 02 May 2018 - 09:40 PM

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Getting outturned by a Ferdinand while playing type 62? Really?

With the changes in maps (removal of some) the chances of getting a city map also got reduced. Make use of that.

Also in +1/-1mm you would still meet ferdis.

Search_Warrant #11 Posted 02 May 2018 - 09:53 PM

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View Postfwhaatpiraat, on 02 May 2018 - 08:40 PM, said:

Getting outturned by a Ferdinand while playing type 62? Really?

With the changes in maps (removal of some) the chances of getting a city map also got reduced. Make use of that.

Also in +1/-1mm you would still meet ferdis.

 

Yeh, thats why i was so angry that the fact it even happened.

AXIS_OF_RESISTANCE #12 Posted 02 May 2018 - 10:19 PM

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its been like this for months just get over it ,war gaming doesn't care about the player base ,when you have monopoly like WG and no competitors they can do what ever they want and the idiots still feeding the tyranny and ego by  buying t8 prem tanks and what not  . its really sad :sceptic:

 



Jethro_Grey #13 Posted 02 May 2018 - 10:56 PM

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There's an easy way to fix the tier disparity, and it'll make WG some money in the process.

 

Increase the penetration of premium ammo by 600% across the board and fix the normalisation (where applicable). Then you can easily pen Obj 430U from all angles even with a pea shooter. 

Problem solved and win-win.



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View PostSearch_Warrant, on 02 May 2018 - 08:55 PM, said:

Driving my Type62 with 145pen and 180 alpha facing tier 9 tanks. just what exactly am i supposed to do? last match before that i got shot at 3 times by arty and that took all my hitpoints because they splashed me. i cant fire on the move at the distance they saw me at so if i stop to shoot they nail me.

 

this balance is getting out of hand. V4's facing tier 8. tier 8 facing tier 6. tier 7 facing tier 9. what the hell is going on here? the balance is just completely broken. +2mm used to be a good thing. now the more i look at it, it just looks terrible with the current MM changes and powercreeps between tiers.

 

I really dont want to say this. but +1 -1 MM looks more and more like a better option here. the games breaking badly. WG have messed up big time.

 

Edit: just tried circle a ferdi, got cought out in front. still wasent fast enough in my LIGHT TANK to move faster than his turn rate and he super high rolled me for 600 in a FERDINAND. bam dead my tier 7 LT is gone and outturned by a god dam FERDI.

 

Id rather play a light or medium as a lowtier because heavies are just cannon fodder as lowtier. (For example the op patriot - which is trash in my opinion - cannot do anything as lowtier, a lighttank doesnt care what he is spotting)

fighting_falcon93 #15 Posted 03 May 2018 - 02:56 AM

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Well as long as people insist that we need +-2 tiers MM, this is what we will have. I agree with you that tier spread messes up the balance of this game. For example, if a tier 8 needs to be balanced to face tier 10s, imagine what happens when it faces tier 6s...

lnfernaI #16 Posted 03 May 2018 - 09:10 AM

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stop being a weeb,and everything will revolve around you,especially SerB.

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View Postfighting_falcon93, on 03 May 2018 - 02:56 AM, said:

Well as long as people insist that we need +-2 tiers MM, this is what we will have. I agree with you that tier spread messes up the balance of this game. For example, if a tier 8 needs to be balanced to face tier 10s, imagine what happens when it faces tier 6s...

That's why it's stupid to ask for buffs. 

They need to nerf tanks from tier 10 down to the broken tier 8s to bring them back in line with the old tanks. 



Search_Warrant #18 Posted 03 May 2018 - 10:29 AM

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View PostlnfernaI, on 03 May 2018 - 08:10 AM, said:

stop being a weeb,and everything will revolve around you,especially SerB.

 

hmmm...has "my little pony" as avatar... calls me a weeb.... 

lnfernaI #19 Posted 03 May 2018 - 10:32 AM

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View PostSearch_Warrant, on 03 May 2018 - 11:29 AM, said:

 

hmmm...has "my little pony" as avatar... calls me a weeb.... 

 

we are bronies

we are legion

expect us.



Rati_Festa #20 Posted 03 May 2018 - 10:35 AM

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View Postfighting_falcon93, on 03 May 2018 - 02:56 AM, said:

Well as long as people insist that we need +-2 tiers MM, this is what we will have. I agree with you that tier spread messes up the balance of this game. For example, if a tier 8 needs to be balanced to face tier 10s, imagine what happens when it faces tier 6s...

 

I think lights are fine with +2,

 

I think heavies should be +1 only through tiers 5-8. Heavies at bottom tier in a +2 is just all wrong imo, putting KV1 against a Type62 for instance is far far worse that a Type 62 vs a T10 or a Type 4. The type 62 can use its mobility to get some form of balance in its +2 match, the KV1 is just dead.






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