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ares354 #1 Posted 03 May 2018 - 06:38 PM

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Info come from russian page provided by site The armored Patrol that French mid tier got ninja buffs. 
 

BDR G1 B:

  • Reduced movement bloom for the stock suspension by 6%
  • Reduced movement bloom for the improved suspension by 7%
  • Reduced turn bloom for the stock suspension by 6%
  • Reduced turn bloom for the improved suspension by 7%
  • Increased the accuracy of the 90 mm DCA 30 gun in the FCM F1 turret from 0.4 to 0.38
  • Decreased the turret move bloom of the 90 mm DCA 30 gun in the FCM F1 turret by 19%
  • Decreased the reload for the 90 mm DCA 30 gun in the FCM F1 turret from 9.5 seconds to 8.8 seconds
  • Changed the amount of HP with the FCM F4 turret from 600 to 650
  • Changed the amount of HP with the FCM F1 turret from 650 to 700

 

ARL 44:

  • Reduced the movement and turn bloom for the stock suspension by 13%
  • Reduced the movement and turn bloom for the improved suspension by 14%
  • Decreased the turret move bloom of the 90 mm F3 gun in the ARL 44 turret by 12%
  • Decreased the aim time for the 90 mm F3 gun in the ARL 44 turret from 2.9 seconds to 2.7 seconds
  • Increased the penetration of the Prf. mle. 1940 shot in the 105 mm Canon 13TR from 165 mm to 175 mm

AMX M4 mle. 45:

  • Reduced the movement and turn bloom for the stock suspension by 17%
  • Reduced the movement and turn bloom for the improved suspension by 18%
  • Decreased the turret move bloom of the 105 mm Canon 13TR gun in the ARL 44 turret by 29%
  • Decreased the turret move bloom of the 105 mm Canon 13TR gun in the AMX M4 mle. 45 turret by 25%
  • Decreased the aim time for the 105 mm Canon 13TR in the AMX M4 mle. 45 turret from 2.9 seconds to 2.7 seconds
  • Decreased the aim time for the 90 mm DCA 45 gun in the AMX M4 mle. 45 turret from 2.9 seconds to 2.5 seconds
  • Decreased the aim time for the 105 mm Canon 13TR in the ARL 44 turret from 2.9 seconds to 2.7 seconds
  • Increased the penetration of the Prf. mle. 1940 shot in the 105 mm Canon 13TR from 165 mm to 175 mm
I do strongly agree with AMX M4, because this tank was very bad in new game meta. 

But buff to ARL 44 are just not needed. Tier 6 with 300 dmg gun now have IS pen. Plus ofc, WG didin't removed p2w mechanic from that gun, when he get extra 30 dmg if we use gold ammo. Buff to soft stats are quite high too and take from him what had balance him over the years, insane guns for bad soft stats. 

I wont talk about tier 5, played him long time ago. 

But I think French tier 5 and 6 HT are not in dire need of buffs, British crapChurchill's tanks are, and again WG just ignore that on their part.  

Tankyouverymuch2 #2 Posted 03 May 2018 - 06:40 PM

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View Postares354, on 03 May 2018 - 06:38 PM, said:

But buff to ARL 44 are just not needed. Tier 6 with 300 dmg gun now have IS pen. Plus ofc, WG didin't removed p2w mechanic from that gun, when he get extra 30 dmg if we use gold ammo.

 

But how is it pay to win now if they disabled purchasing premium shells with gold? Or did you skip that part of the patch notes...

the_nebuchadnezzar #3 Posted 03 May 2018 - 06:45 PM

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Thx for the info. I will take my ARL 44 out on a spin. Used to like the tank a few years ago when I grind for the 50B.

Strappster #4 Posted 03 May 2018 - 06:48 PM

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Typical of WG to hide these details in the official patch notes. Why oh why oh why, etc. :rolleyes:

DuncaN_101 #5 Posted 03 May 2018 - 06:49 PM

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Let's face it... Those tanks could use that little bit of help so.
I see no problem

ares354 #6 Posted 03 May 2018 - 06:51 PM

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View PostTankyouverymuch2, on 03 May 2018 - 06:40 PM, said:

 

But how is it pay to win now if they disabled purchasing premium shells with gold? Or did you skip that part of the patch notes...

 

That gun was on ARL for years now. They could just changed that, they didint. Get extra pen and dmg, Troll gun Type 5 have same, with extra dmg and people cry this is p2w. 

As i said. I want talk about BDR, but buff to AMX 300 dmg gun is not needed imho. 

AMX m4 buff was needed.
 

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 Let's face it... Those tanks could use that little bit of help so.
I see no problem 

 
As i said, I dont see any problem with M4 buff, ARL i am not convinced. Both ARL and BDR traded very powerfull gun for crapstats. 


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PointZero #7 Posted 03 May 2018 - 06:51 PM

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View PostStrappster, on 03 May 2018 - 08:48 PM, said:

Typical of WG to hide these details in the official patch notes. Why oh why oh why, etc. :rolleyes:

 

Hidden buffs are clearly hidden in the patch notes that nobody reads these days ;)

Balc0ra #8 Posted 03 May 2018 - 06:52 PM

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It's in the patch notes on the portal. So not really a "ninja buff". But they were not tested on CT.

 

View Postares354, on 03 May 2018 - 06:38 PM, said:

But buff to ARL 44 are just not needed. Tier 6 with 300 dmg gun now have IS pen. Plus ofc, WG didin't removed p2w mechanic from that gun, when he get extra 30 dmg if we use gold ammo. Buff to soft stats are quite high too and take from him what had balance him over the years, insane guns for bad soft stats.

 

KV-85 has a 175 pen gun, but it lacks DPM. It has a 250 alpha gun with 170 pen. Even the 107mm on the T-150 had more pen if you will. So why not? Then again there are tier 6 guns with more pen and alpha then that. Mostly on TD's tho. So to be fair. It was trailing behind.

 

As the lack of pen made me favor the 90mm more, even with less DPM when I did grind it back in the day.



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View PostPointZero, on 03 May 2018 - 05:51 PM, said:

Hidden buffs are clearly hidden in the patch notes that nobody reads these days ;)

 

To be fair, they are right at the bottom of the section you have to click on to expand, so that's like a click and a fair amount of scrolling. It's as good as hiding them ... probably.



ares354 #10 Posted 03 May 2018 - 06:57 PM

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 Hidden buffs are clearly hidden in the patch notes that nobody reads these days

 

When test 1.0.1 hit test srevers did we know about those buff ? 

 

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KV-85 has a 175 pen gun, but it lacks DPM. It has a 250 alpha gun with 170 pen. Even the 107mm on the T-150 had more pen if you will. So why not? Then again there are tier 6 guns with more pen and alpha then that. Mostly on TD's tho. So to be fair. It was trailing behind.

 

As the lack of pen made me favor the 90mm more, even with less DPM when I did grind it back in the day.

 
After all KV 85 have 50 dmg less, so he could have more pen. T-150 dont have 2 competetive gun depending on play style you like. TD are not HT, thye should have more pen and dmg....

 



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View PostTankyouverymuch2, on 03 May 2018 - 06:40 PM, said:

 

But how is it pay to win now if they disabled purchasing premium shells with gold? Or did you skip that part of the patch notes...

 

No one had been buying that from ages. When will they remove "better" AP and stop balancing tanks according to the more expensive ammo, thus stop balancing the whole freaking game around silver, maybe then will start on the path of not being pay to win. By the way, the phrase "pay to win" is more of a metaphor. It's about the feeling, players are manipulated. So although you don't actually exchange money for strength at a 1 to 1 ratio, you spend time and silver which translates in higher probability in gaining money for WG. The economy of the game is not real, and its whole purpose is to give the feeling of constant need, that paired with RNG and other random stuff as well as the "faulty" balancing results a toxic environment if you stay too long in. Its whole purpose is just to make WG money not to give you quality time. The despicable thing is in the recipe which is meant to exploit the human brain natural defects. I'm willing to bet that the majority of players have history or are too young and just are developing addiction problems. If you're talking about alcohol, gambling or smoking or just too much social media or porn on your phone and not just hard drugs. It's pay to win because it exploits same reflexes in the perpetual hunting of whales.

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View PostSomnorila, on 03 May 2018 - 06:04 PM, said:

 

No one had been buying that from ages. When will they remove "better" AP and stop balancing tanks according to the more expensive ammo, thus stop balancing the whole freaking game around silver, maybe then will start on the path of not being pay to win. By the way, the phrase "pay to win" is more of a metaphor. It's about the feeling, players are manipulated. So although you don't actually exchange money for strength at a 1 to 1 ratio, you spend time and silver which translates in higher probability in gaining money for WG. The economy of the game is not real, and its whole purpose is to give the feeling of constant need, that paired with RNG and other random stuff as well as the "faulty" balancing results a toxic environment if you stay too long in. Its whole purpose is just to make WG money not to give you quality time. The despicable thing is in the recipe which is meant to exploit the human brain natural defects. I'm willing to bet that the majority of players have history or are too young and just are developing addiction problems. If you're talking about alcohol, gambling or smoking or just too much social media or porn on your phone and not just hard drugs. It's pay to win because it exploits same reflexes in the perpetual hunting of whales.

 

Up to a point, Lord Copper.

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It is in the patch notes from start. 

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Gotta try BDR with 90 mm with buffed RoF. 240 alpha on tier 5?

ARL 44 should more comfortable to play with better gun handling. Penetration buff doesn't matter because 90% of players are clueless and use long 90 mm. Those players who use 105 mm, they use it mostly with APCR anyway.

 

90 mm on AMX M4 is still unusable IMO. It needs Tiger-level RoF since it's a big, paper tank with unimpressive mobility. Those buffs are not enough and 105 mm is still a better option. I spent over 1kk credits on APCR for 105 mm (during the whole grind) and it was the best decision ever.



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So, another HT gun on tier 6 with 175 pen. I wonder when T-150 will get 175 pen too...

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View PostPointZero, on 03 May 2018 - 06:51 PM, said:

 

Hidden buffs are clearly hidden in the patch notes that nobody reads these days ;)

 

Played my Progetto on the new Province today, and some guy was like "wait what" - after asking him what he meant, we came to the conclusion that he didn't read the patch notes...about a game he plays...

 

People living under a rock play this game, no wonder the randoms are ruined. :facepalm:



ares354 #17 Posted 03 May 2018 - 10:29 PM

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View PostDexatroph, on 03 May 2018 - 07:56 PM, said:

It is in the patch notes from start. 

 

Really, then its kind of funny that no one in first CT iteration talk about those changes. 

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View Postares354, on 03 May 2018 - 11:29 PM, said:

 

Really, then its kind of funny that no one in first CT iteration talk about those changes. 

 

Nobody plays tiers 5-6 in the common tests. Everyone is busy spamming gold in tier X tanks.

ares354 #19 Posted 03 May 2018 - 10:51 PM

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View Postpsychobear, on 03 May 2018 - 10:43 PM, said:

 

Nobody plays tiers 5-6 in the common tests. Everyone is busy spamming gold in tier X tanks.

 

I dont talk about play, there was no info on forum of those changes when first iteration hit servers. Until one day before patch goes live, we get info of those buff. Did you know about those buff 2 week ago ? 

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View PostPointZero, on 03 May 2018 - 06:51 PM, said:

Hidden buffs are clearly hidden in the patch notes that nobody reads these days ;)

 

Quite. Even referring to patch notes tends to bring about hilarious posts from people whose claims have been rubbished....






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