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Poll: Tier X Cost (121 members have cast votes)

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do you think play in tier 10 cost money more than it should be?

  1. Yes (61 votes [50.41%])

    Percentage of vote: 50.41%

  2. No (60 votes [49.59%])

    Percentage of vote: 49.59%

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Grimm2012 #1 Posted 03 May 2018 - 11:52 PM

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in world of tanks as you play in higher tier the cost of playing increases 

do you think the cost of play in tier 10 higher than it should be  



Bulldog_Drummond #2 Posted 04 May 2018 - 12:00 AM

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It's a total mystery to me why anyone would want to play at Tier X.

 

But horses for courses and for those of such peculiar, verging on OCD inclinations, I fail to see why they should not pay the price of their fancy and subsidise the rest of us.



SmellyOne #3 Posted 04 May 2018 - 12:35 AM

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View PostGrimm2012, on 03 May 2018 - 11:52 PM, said:

in world of tanks as you play in higher tier the cost of playing increases 

do you think the cost of play in tier 10 higher than it should be  

 

Yes its one of the core mechanics of the game.

You are supposed to "grind" money in order to be able to play top tier.

So you exchange your time doing something less fun, in order to be able to play something thats more fun (you being top tier and usually able to penetrate anything and never face +2 tier opponents).

This means that every time you press "play" button while in a tier 10, there is a good chance you will be very focused on what youre doing, and not fooling around doing stupid stuff and ruining the game for (at least) 14 other people.

 

So, in short, this will never change. It forces people to focus on game, and it forces people to buy premium vehicles, which makes WG money (the other major reason why it will never change).

 

On the other hand, if you have a clue about what youre doing, you will not lose money playing tier 10 even without premium. If youre constantly losing money, and losing it at a terrible rate, it means that youre either not good enough, that youre playing a tank that is not supported by current meta (basically bad underpowered tank) or that your approach with particular vehicles is not yet good enough.


Edited by SmellyOne, 04 May 2018 - 12:36 AM.


Grimm2012 #4 Posted 04 May 2018 - 12:54 AM

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View PostSmellyOne, on 03 May 2018 - 11:35 PM, said:

 

Yes its one of the core mechanics of the game.

You are supposed to "grind" money in order to be able to play top tier.

So you exchange your time doing something less fun, in order to be able to play something thats more fun (you being top tier and usually able to penetrate anything and never face +2 tier opponents).

This means that every time you press "play" button while in a tier 10, there is a good chance you will be very focused on what youre doing, and not fooling around doing stupid stuff and ruining the game for (at least) 14 other people.

 

So, in short, this will never change. It forces people to focus on game, and it forces people to buy premium vehicles, which makes WG money (the other major reason why it will never change).

 

On the other hand, if you have a clue about what youre doing, you will not lose money playing tier 10 even without premium. If youre constantly losing money, and losing it at a terrible rate, it means that youre either not good enough, that youre playing a tank that is not supported by current meta (basically bad underpowered tank) or that your approach with particular vehicles is not yet good enough.

 

i think it forces people to don't play rather than focus 

breeeze #5 Posted 04 May 2018 - 01:09 AM

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It's to keep people out that have played 25k games and still know nothing about the game. You know, like you.

TheComfyChair #6 Posted 04 May 2018 - 02:33 AM

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It's the circle of tanks.....buy gold tanks ...make cash....subsidise tier x tanks...actually it's more linear but such is life :hiding:

Sfinski #7 Posted 04 May 2018 - 05:13 AM

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Completely fine. Could be more even to push people down the tiers more. Would help the MM.

ewancfc #8 Posted 04 May 2018 - 05:27 AM

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View PostBulldog_Drummond, on 04 May 2018 - 12:00 AM, said:

It's a total mystery to me why anyone would want to play at Tier X.

 

But horses for courses and for those of such peculiar, verging on OCD inclinations, I fail to see why they should not pay the price of their fancy and subsidise the rest of us.

 

why would you want to play the most well balanced tier in the game? Where you don't get absolutely shafted by those who are just in a higher tier tank than you and don't need any skill at all?

Merton15 #9 Posted 04 May 2018 - 06:23 AM

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If it was easy to make credits at T10, the game would fall apart. The system relies on long term players continuing to play mid tier tanks to fund their high tier antics. The worse they are, the more they have to play T5/T6. If this was not the case, how would new players get into games as they go through the tiers? A high percentage of new recruits play a few games, decide it is not for them and never get past T3/T4. At any given time there is a fairly small cohort of noobs working their way up, not enough to avoid long wait times and endless bottom tier matches unless the long timers are playing alongside them. System working as intended.

Dorander #10 Posted 04 May 2018 - 11:08 AM

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View PostMerton15, on 04 May 2018 - 05:23 AM, said:

If it was easy to make credits at T10, the game would fall apart. The system relies on long term players continuing to play mid tier tanks to fund their high tier antics. The worse they are, the more they have to pay for premium account time and premium tanks. If this was not the case, how would new players get into games as they go through the tiers? A high percentage of new recruits play a few games, decide it is not for them and never get past T3/T4. At any given time there is a fairly small cohort of noobs working their way up, not enough to avoid long wait times and endless bottom tier matches unless the long timers are playing alongside them. System working as intended.

 

Fixed that for you ;-)



DuncaN_101 #11 Posted 04 May 2018 - 11:38 AM

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Here we go again.

Lord_Edge #12 Posted 04 May 2018 - 11:40 AM

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I don't see the problem, farm credits in Skorpion G, spend them on golden HE for your Type 5, drown in the tears of your enemies.

 

Yeah I know, I'm going to hell.



mpf1959 #13 Posted 04 May 2018 - 11:54 AM

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I have only got to T9, but see no advantage at all over T6 to 8. Consequently I am playing the T9 less and less, and may not even bother with T10, it's nuts when you can lose credits even on the winning side, and for really no better fun in the games!

SmellyOne #14 Posted 04 May 2018 - 02:41 PM

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View PostGrimm2012, on 04 May 2018 - 12:54 AM, said:

 

i think it forces people to don't play rather than focus 

 

I dont have a problem running tier 10 without premium.

SnowRelic #15 Posted 04 May 2018 - 03:27 PM

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Bad poll. High tiers are way too cheap to play. A long time ago, WG made high tiers cheaper to run and that's a big mistake. Take a second to ponder why tier 8's are bottom tier 90% of the time?

Dorander #16 Posted 04 May 2018 - 06:18 PM

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View PostSnowRelic, on 04 May 2018 - 02:27 PM, said:

Bad poll. High tiers are way too cheap to play. A long time ago, WG made high tiers cheaper to run and that's a big mistake. Take a second to ponder why tier 8's are bottom tier 90% of the time?

 

Going out on a limb here but... Because there are so many more players driving tier 8 than there are driving tier 10 since driving tier 10 is an unbalanced mess where you stand to lose credits?

 

Hard to ponder anything without mechanical information though, I'd guess that if the 3/5/7 split from tier 10-8 occurs a lot, that'd be indicative of how many players are active on those tiers. Of course, there's no reason why you can't make many other combinations with the same number of players and keep people more evenly in the tiers they drive, but does the matchmaker do that?



arthurwellsley #17 Posted 04 May 2018 - 06:22 PM

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View PostGrimm2012, on 03 May 2018 - 10:52 PM, said:

in world of tanks as you play in higher tier the cost of playing increases 

do you think the cost of play in tier 10 higher than it should be  

 

Stay alive longer, shoot more enemy tanks than you presently do, penetrate more enemy tanks than you presently do, win more often than you presently do, and as if by magic tier X matches will cost less, and in fact if you Git Gud you can actually make a profit playing tier X.

 

If anything make tier X cost more.



RamRaid90 #18 Posted 04 May 2018 - 06:36 PM

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If anything tier X should only be playable by paying bonds (costs 1 bonds to enter the battle, upon defeat this is doubled and with victory it is refunded)

 

At least that way the scrub lords who ruin high tiers for everyone else by DERP camping the redline in their E-100 would not be able to do so for long.

 

 



Maj_Solo #19 Posted 04 May 2018 - 06:50 PM

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Tier 10 is supposed to feed on tier 8 and collect their money that way.

Mediums_X_are_OP #20 Posted 19 October 2018 - 12:26 AM

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View PostBulldog_Drummond, on 04 May 2018 - 12:00 AM, said:

It's a total mystery to me why anyone would want to play at Tier X.

 

But horses for courses and for those of such peculiar, verging on OCD inclinations, I fail to see why they should not pay the price of their fancy and subsidise the rest of us.

 

At least for now WG introduced the incentive to play tier X the bonds that is, wich bring improved modules, the purple ones wich are not only better but also lighter but generaly, over tier X there´s nothing so you can only play against own tier and lower tiers eventualy but when you play only against own tier X, the chances to win 4 to 12 or even up to 15 bonds per match are kind 50/50, so a special reward for playing tier X hangs up there in the Christmas tree.besides, at tier X are generaly speaking, the most skilled players or at least those with the most experience so there´s the place to prove yourself as a WoT player.

 

So on one hand you only play against your and 1-2 tiers lower wich is a reward in itself, on the other hand playing only against own tier rewards you with bonds, win-win so to speak. The only downside of the story is that you need credits to feed the tier X tank/s. I fully apreciate the introduction of the bonds by WG, rarely write it but well done WG !

 

The bonds are more precious than even gold wich generaly can be brought with money while the bonds can´t be brought even with cash and bring some advantages for a tank. Having hundreds of tanks don´t bring that much because you only can play at two hands, with other words a tank at a time so l rather have a super good tank than hundreds of mediocre ones. As a matter of fact one can play only a tank wich l did for a long period of time, beside the premium tank l had to also play, wich brings multiple skills on the crew and yourself. Worse than that, playing multiple tanks is even detrimental as the playing stile differs, angling for example, with the Maus is recomended to angle much while with other tanks less or even at all, so it gets kind of messy and l at least, do mistakes when playing multiple tanks.

 

So despite the sheer unbalance of the tier X tanks among themselves, I´m just curious how you perform against 2 tier higher tanks..?

You might rarely win 1-2 bonds here and there for a medal in other tiers but it´d take years to gather 5k bonds to buy an improved module, while l have already my Maus fully equiped with 2 such modules and 8th skill at 7%.

 

And there´s another incentive, the big battles only where you have the two huge maps Klondike and Nebelburg and matches 30vs30, it is a welcome alternation of the already to few and boring maps in the game.

 

All the other options are kind of suboptimal and stats padding more or less, for an 20k+ games player, beside credits farming with premium tanks wich we all know, are not higher than tier 8.

 

So yes, do you pretend you´re a good WoT player..? Then prove yourself at tier X !

 


Edited by Mediums_X_are_OP, 19 October 2018 - 06:52 AM.






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