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undutchable80 #1 Posted 04 May 2018 - 08:29 AM

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From: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NC2lH1jZObo

 

Too long - Did Not Watch:

 

K-91
- Normal Tier X Russian MT
- Researched after Obj.430 v.2
- Sniper MT/TD hybrid playstyle
- Unreliable Hull armor/ Turret might be good
- About the same camo as AMX 13 105

 

Obj.277
- Normal Tier X Russian HT
- Researched after T-10
- Aggro MT/HT hybrid playstyle
- Same or better armor as WZ-111 5A
    (Less cupola & Obvious weakspots)

 

Czolg T wz51
- Premium Tier VIII Polish HT
- Revealed in ‘Developer Diaries’ video
- Aggro HT playstyle without drawbacks
- Might be powercreep over Obj.252U
    
T-34E (Shielded)
- Premium Tier V Russian MT
- T-34-76 with applique armor
- Slightly slower but with more DPM/armor

 

T26E3
- Premium Tier VII USA MT
- Stock Pershing at tier 7
- Low HP/ton but with good view range (support MT)

 

Sherman Firefly 1C
- Premium Tier VI UK MT
- Firefly with better Accuracy, Dispersion, & Top speed
    at the cost of some engine power (HP/ton)

 

Waddayathink? A fully researched Pershing is crap at Tier 8, so why would I want a(nother) US MT that is equivalent to a STOCK Pershing one tier lower??? :facepalm: I'll keep driving my Thunderbolt for crew training TYVM. Cant judge on the rest since I dont wn the regular Firefly nor do I drive high tier Soviet MT/HTs (yet :justwait:)


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https://ritastatusreport.live/2018/04/15/k-91-object-277-fuller-stats-captures/

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HAHAHAHAHAHA K91 gets same camp as AMX 13 105 *AND* better view range, what the heck is the point of tier 10 light tanks again?

 

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Missed that one. Thx for the link! :great:

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View PostCobra6, on 04 May 2018 - 07:38 AM, said:

 

HAHAHAHAHAHA K91 gets same camp as AMX 13 105 *AND* better view range, what the heck is the point of tier 10 light tanks again?

 

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more rasha op stuff

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View PostCobra6, on 04 May 2018 - 08:38 AM, said:

 

HAHAHAHAHAHA K91 gets same camp as AMX 13 105 *AND* better view range, what the heck is the point of tier 10 light tanks again?

 

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Stationary camo on the move?



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Sometimes this doesn't happen, but for most tanks now they'll start them out as OP in the test servers then nerf them before release. 

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View Postundutchable80, on 04 May 2018 - 07:29 AM, said:

From: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NC2lH1jZObo

 

Too long - Did Not Watch:

 

K-91
- Normal Tier X Russian MT
- Researched after Obj.430 v.2
- Sniper MT/TD hybrid playstyle
- Unreliable Hull armor/ Turret might be good
- About the same camo as AMX 13 105

 

Obj.277
- Normal Tier X Russian HT
- Researched after T-10
- Aggro MT/HT hybrid playstyle
- Same or better armor as WZ-111 5A
    (Less cupola & Obvious weakspots)

 

Czolg T wz51
- Premium Tier VIII Polish HT
- Revealed in ‘Developer Diaries’ video
- Aggro HT playstyle without drawbacks
- Might be powercreep over Obj.252U
    
T-34E (Shielded)
- Premium Tier V Russian MT
- T-34-76 with applique armor
- Slightly slower but with more DPM/armor

 

T26E3
- Premium Tier VII USA MT
- Stock Pershing at tier 7
- Low HP/ton but with good view range (support MT)

 

Sherman Firefly 1C
- Premium Tier VI UK MT
- Firefly with better Accuracy, Dispersion, & Top speed
    at the cost of some engine power (HP/ton)

 

Waddayathink?

 

Firefly's biggest problem in game is bad gun depression.  The AC 4 Experimental has the same gun and great depression.

Simeon85 #9 Posted 04 May 2018 - 09:21 AM

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K91 - Actually looks a bit weak on current stats so expect massive over buffs on test, 11 hpt/on on a medium is terrible, the armour sounds pretty poor, the DPM is below average and the gun handling is nothing special.

 

Literally all it has going for it is high standard pen and very fast shell velocity.

 

277 - on what we know so far looks OP AF, high pen standard round, 350 pen APCR round, very good armour, decent mobility, amazing gun handling for a 490 alpha gun, good DPM as well and even good accuracy (on par with many of the meds).

 

Any decent level of armour and that thing is going to be absurd. 

 

Czolg - On current stats very much looking like the Defender 'improved' and will break tier 8 MM again (it's Polish so their will be so many of them bought), I hope they go with the more mobile less armoured approach because this thing is looking super OP at the moment.

 

T-34E - Another copy paste Russian med, not sure why we need anymore of those.  There are currently 14 premium or reward Russian meds in the game.

 

T26E3 - Again don't see much point, there are loads of US medium crew trainers, 12 in total I believe. It's like WG wants a crew trainer on every tier for all these nations.

 

Sherman Firely - More copy-paste going on, seems like this one is like the Centurion 5/1, being a slightly better version of the tech tree copy. Not sure where this leaves the AC4 experimental. 



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It's not said that these tanks will come in version 1.0.2, lol. They are only on the Supertest server. K-91 and Object 277 will appear later.

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View PostElement6_TheSprout, on 04 May 2018 - 07:43 AM, said:

Stationary camo on the move?

 

So you can try and run away from the K91 because it's better in every other respect? :D

 

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Think I'll buy that Czog - keep it and my Defender and sell all my other prems :)

 

Nah, on second thoughts I'll keep them all :)



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View PostCobra6, on 04 May 2018 - 09:55 AM, said:

 

So you can try and run away from the K91 because it's better in every other respect? :D

 

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11 hp/ton? It'll to struggle to get past 35kph on most terrain with that level of engine power. 

 

 



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View Postundutchable80, on 04 May 2018 - 07:29 AM, said:

 

Czolg T wz51
- Premium Tier VIII Polish HT
- Revealed in ‘Developer Diaries’ video
- Aggro HT playstyle without drawbacks
- Might be powercreep over Obj.252U
 

 

You seriously believe any non rusian tank will be better than rusian... lol Wg will never allow that and Everyone crying about it seems to forgot they are 2 versions of it on test 

I can bet we gonna get the worst of two versions


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View PostCobra6, on 04 May 2018 - 09:55 AM, said:

So you can try and run away from the K91 because it's better in every other respect? :D

 

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Nah, keep him lit and get assistance from team wile using bushes etc. so he can't see you, since I would never assume an LT to be able to fight an MT 1 on 1 on equal terms to begin with. Keep him tracked maybe.



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Sadly...I would like to buy any premium tank.Like right now,ISU-122S,its my dream tank that i wish to have,but i cant afford it sadly :(

Im not asking for somebody to buy me,but aswell theres no people with heart.

Maybe there are some,but rare.

If ANYBODY would buy me ISU-122S,they would have big respect from me.



Denisian #17 Posted 04 May 2018 - 12:35 PM

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View PostSzatanshow, on 04 May 2018 - 09:00 AM, said:

 

You seriously believe any non rusian tank will be better than rusian... lol Wg will never allow that and Everyone crying about it seems to forgot they are 2 versions of it on test 

I can bet we gonna get the worst of two versions

 

Czolg has worse armor model than Defender from what I've seen in videos. It might be strong, but won't be better than Defender for sure.

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hmm... didnt WG say that Russian tX tonks will be out only next year after Polish tree?

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View PostDenisian, on 04 May 2018 - 12:35 PM, said:

 

Czolg has worse armor model than Defender from what I've seen in videos. It might be strong, but won't be better than Defender for sure.

 

Well as WG said in the dev video where they showcased these new premiums. They don't know if they want to make it a HT or a med heavy yet in terms of armor vs mobility. They are leaning more towards the mobility side. Basically more like a T-10.

 

 

As for the rest? I suspect they have been added on live for super testers. As the K91 and 277 were told to be a year off at least. So not gonna poke at those yet.

 

The Czolg looks a bit to strong atm. I hope they go for less armor and mobility option. As atm it looks to be like the Defender with more gun depression. As in high alpha, low dpm, too good armor.  As even the view port in the middle was almost 300 effective atm. I don't mind that tanks have armor. But it won't help make equal tier 8 games better with so many sub 200 pen HT's there still.

 

T-34E don't look too bad. It's pen is great for a tier 5 med, but the rest is on pair or average vs the rest. Not sure how good the spaced armor will be vs the Matilda IV for instance. But at least it don't have 86 pen.

 

T26E3 is just a flat out better T20 by the looks of it. More pen then the 90mm on the T20, more DPM, better aim time, better dispersion, more armor. But less mobility. I suspect most will still buy this. As atm it don't look like a bad tier 7 med.

 

 

Sherman Firely 1C... Again a better version then the normal counterpart in therms of gun. Way more dpm, then even the AC4. Better aim time and less dispersion then the AC 4 and tech tree variant. And the power to weight and engine power is not that much worse to justify the other stats. As I suspect the bigger top speed on the 1C is a bigger factor anyway for it to matter.

 

Then again, even tho the guns on the T26E3 and 1C is way better then their normal counterparts. As before it could be a sign of things to come in terms of planned changes. As in a pen buff for the T20 etc. Primo Vic was a sign of things to come for the Cent 1 armor model. So was the Fury with regards to the E8 armor model. At least I hope so... if not, there is no reason to keep the tech tree variants.

 



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View PostDeep_Convection, on 04 May 2018 - 07:44 AM, said:

Sometimes this doesn't happen, but for most tanks now they'll start them out as OP in the test servers then nerf them before release. 

 

For the most part it's only russian tanks that start out OP and need nerfing.

Everyone else tends to start out underpowered and in need of buffing.






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