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FreshF #1 Posted 04 May 2018 - 05:53 PM

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Hey guys,

 

I saw many guys complaining about the swedish heavy line from t7 upwards...

 

So I wanted to ask you: Do you think playing the line is worth at all ? I'm thinking about  starting the grind.

 

GL&HF



Quintuss #2 Posted 07 May 2018 - 02:21 PM

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not unless you want every tank researched.

 

The tier 6 and 7 Meds are a tad special, but i found both rather compfortable to play.

 

Emil 1 is absymal  when stock, and even fully kitted out suffering from being plain useless. As toptier it doesn't have the means to push (as showing the hull/side lets any tier 6 beat you), as bottom tier your gun just lacks both pen AND gunhandling to face heavys or armoured meds effectively.

 

Emil 2 and Kranvagen i only tried on the Testserver but the likewise suffer from being 1-trick ponys: if they can stay hulldown AND don't get HEed they are decent....  but frankly: a super-conqueror has an even better turret (+ better hull) and brings a great gun with decent DPM instead of the near-useless auto-loader swedisch ones get.



XxKuzkina_MatxX #3 Posted 19 May 2018 - 01:07 AM

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Nowadays, the Swedish tech tree, both the tier 10, are a joke. I don't think any other newly introduced line got almost obsolete so fast as the Swedes. Swedish heavies are very bad so steer clear and save your time/money grinding something viable. Funny thing as i remember the highlight of the Swedish heavy line was the tier 6 medium! :)

kaneloon #4 Posted 05 June 2018 - 03:52 PM

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Emil I was ok in FL battles, it has mobility and ok burst, but you sure cant 1v1 a defender.

 

Emil II is very hard to play even top tiers.

 

I am about to unlock the Kranvagn but I don t think I will buy it.

I will downgrade the girls on the tiers VII which was fun.



Dalkian #5 Posted 03 August 2018 - 11:40 PM

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The Emil II is the highlight of the heavies, it's a great tank.
I would imagen it's a tank you either like or hate, i've fallen in love with it and have managed a respectable 70% winration over 33 games so far.
The gun handling on the Emil I made me wanna throw up, but it can do some serious work.
If you want a autoloading heavy then the Emil II would be worth the grind.

slowcow #6 Posted 01 January 2019 - 12:54 PM

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This t8+ heavy line doesen't fit in nowdays WoT. Games are too fast-paced yolo fests to really have an impact on the battlefield. 

30-40 sec reloads are absolutly atrocious and it doesen't help that the interclip reload is a whopping 3-3,3 sec. People just aren't afraid of these tanks and take advantage of the incredibly long reload. Hull down is nice but you can only hull down for so long in a battle- rest of the time you're a fish on dry land. Even hull down is tricky as everyone just loads HE and you're forced to back down with your tail between your legs.

 

The gun handling on Emil II is one of the absolute worst I've ever experienced. Shells live their own life and even best fully aimed shots end up at different postcode. In short: they don't fit the meta anymore. They are way too situational and frankly there are ALOT of other tanks that can do their job better and don't rely on situations *KHMeveryrussiantankKHM*

 

Giving Emil II and Krankthatwagen a 25 sec reload and 2,5 interclip reload much like the 50B has would help the tank a ton. Maybe boost that aim time, too.



Oldewolfe #7 Posted 12 April 2019 - 02:57 PM

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Well, Olde Thread, but New Addition...       The Adjusted Heavy Line is supposed to be on the Tedt Server as we Speak....      So, just Reactivating the Post to get further Input added to it and Update it....

 

I hadn't read the Patch Notes before I went in and only Played with the New Mediums, didn't realize the Heavies were Ready to Test Live....     I'll be Playing with the Heavies tonight and over the Weekend....     I liked them enough I kept them, only Sold the Emil I for the Garage Space on another Grind....      Waiting on the Emil 1951 now to Replace it.....



CrimsonEntropy #8 Posted 06 May 2019 - 04:16 PM

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Update after 1.5 went live. 

The Kranvagn spamming full gold is borderline OP, the Emil I and Emil II are a [edited]joke, borderline, if not totally, unplayable. 

tomosten #9 Posted 30 June 2019 - 11:45 AM

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I have Emil 2. Have everyone experience the same arty focus as I do with that tank? Every battle. I have never seen anything like it except for shitbarn. Doesnt matter if there is 5 tier 10 or not.

Is it because the hard turret? The tank is meh and my stats are not that good. 

As soon as I am spotted, doesnt matter where I am, boom from all SPGs. 

I really dont get it.



Imhov #10 Posted 02 July 2019 - 02:30 PM

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I didnt play much in my Emil I, but that SPG-experience I only can confirm... That tank is so slow, doesn't surprise me though everybody shootin me.

 

Btw, can someone tell me, which modules you researched first? Gun I suppose? But I still think about the engine...



Negativvv #11 Posted 04 July 2019 - 01:58 PM

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Are Swedish HTs worth it after the rework?

On paper I still didn't like the look of them so I went French Autoloaders.

For me it's the insufficient clip size as you really need to be able to punish people with the burst.

Guess I'll try Kav on the next test server...

Ricky_Rolls #12 Posted 04 July 2019 - 02:51 PM

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It's definitely worth. The emil 1 might be worse that what it was before, but the two others are definitely better.




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