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Private_Pearts #1 Posted 07 May 2018 - 08:40 PM

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During the 30 second countdown would it be viable or even good if there was a designated team commander assigned, maybe to the player with the most experience/highest personal rating who had some basic tools to tell each class where he wants them to go once the timer hits zero?

Dorander #2 Posted 07 May 2018 - 08:42 PM

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I think herding cats is easier than commanding 14 other randoms.

spuff #3 Posted 07 May 2018 - 08:50 PM

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A nice idea in theory but how many people actually pay attention to anything that’s going on??? Most just blindly go to the same spots each time regardless of what the mythical mini map says so getting other people to be told what to do........

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ThinGun #4 Posted 07 May 2018 - 08:51 PM

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30 seconds is not long enough to decide what tactics to adopt, and then tell everyone what to do.  30 minutes might get close...

Private_Pearts #5 Posted 07 May 2018 - 09:06 PM

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View PostThinGun, on 07 May 2018 - 08:51 PM, said:

30 seconds is not long enough to decide what tactics to adopt, and then tell everyone what to do.  30 minutes might get close...

 

I imagine if the tools were right and maybe they would only have to be very basic the team commander could at the very least tell everybody where he wants them to go give and some basic do's and don'ts. If people pay attention great,, if not then nobody loses anything.

Edited by Private_Pearts, 07 May 2018 - 09:06 PM.


Jigabachi #6 Posted 07 May 2018 - 09:13 PM

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Completely pointless in a game like this one... and not only because players aren't known for being very smart. 30 seconds are way too short, matches are way too short, gameplay is way too chaotic on one side and too limited on the other side.

 

I liked that feature in the Battlefield series and often took the role of the commander for my clan, but in a game like WoT that's impossible to implement.



Verbal_kint_742 #7 Posted 07 May 2018 - 09:15 PM

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Finding 5 players in team having the (insulting) chat open is considered as miracle.

Also consider as miracle if 2 of those 5 players can speak or understand the basic English...

 

 


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Private_Pearts #8 Posted 07 May 2018 - 09:17 PM

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View PostJigabachi, on 07 May 2018 - 09:13 PM, said:

Completely pointless in a game like this one... and not only because players aren't known for being very smart. 30 seconds are way too short, matches are way too short, gameplay is way too chaotic on one side and too limited on the other side.

 

I liked that feature in the Battlefield series and often took the role of the commander for my clan, but in a game like WoT that's impossible to implement.

 

Do you reckon? I'm not so sure. I get a bored as **** waiting for that timer to count down, it wouldn't take a lot of time to say right lights there, heavies here and so on, the valley on Laketown gives you herpes etc.

I can't see as there's anything to lose by it although admittedly it will often be pointless.

 

View PostVerbal_kint_742, on 07 May 2018 - 09:15 PM, said:

Finding 5 players in team having the (insulting) chat open is considered as miracle.

Also consider as miracle if 2 of those 5 players can speak or understand the basic English...

 

 

 

But you don't need English to use basic colour coded tools do you? And lets say the best really isn't very good and it all goes pear shaped? If he was your best then you're pretty much screwed anyway right?
 

malachi6 #9 Posted 07 May 2018 - 09:20 PM

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If you want 30 different points of view.  launch a random game of WoT

Dorander #10 Posted 07 May 2018 - 09:21 PM

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You know what I do during the countdown timer?

 

Read and post on the forum :B

 

Seriously though. It's a nice idea to have some kind of designated commander, but I have real questions about how useful it'd be. I seldomly see the most highly rated players talk in chat, they do their own thing and mostly make decisions based on the map/surroundings. A significant number of players have chat off. And then there's the language barrier. There's always going to be someone (or multiple) who knows better and will do whatever they feel like anyway...

 

Quite frankly I am happy if I get one tactical suggestion/request fulfilled every five games.



BladeRexi #11 Posted 07 May 2018 - 09:23 PM

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Guess most of the time you would get Insta TK-ed by some spoiled little [edited]that wanted to be the commander himself!

Private_Pearts #12 Posted 07 May 2018 - 09:33 PM

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I can see all of these things happening and more besides but the tools would be map tools primarily and maybe some overlay system during the count down. If all of this does happen, fine, that's pub games, random battles etc but again, what if it adds a little something and doesn't take anything away?

Dorander #13 Posted 07 May 2018 - 09:42 PM

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View PostPrivate_Pearts, on 07 May 2018 - 08:33 PM, said:

I can see all of these things happening and more besides but the tools would be map tools primarily and maybe some overlay system during the count down. If all of this does happen, fine, that's pub games, random battles etc but again, what if it adds a little something and doesn't take anything away?

 

It shouldn't take anything away... trick is convincing WG to implement it.

Strappster #14 Posted 07 May 2018 - 09:43 PM

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Jagdtiger in my team earlier TK'd a light because he felt the light wasn't spotting, then took up position in a bush behind my arty (Crusader SP). That JT player has 26k battles with a win rate of 54% and WN8 of 1,700. He might not be the best player by stats but he's certainly better than many.

 

Would you want him to be commanding your team?



Dorander #15 Posted 07 May 2018 - 09:47 PM

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View PostStrappster, on 07 May 2018 - 08:43 PM, said:

Jagdtiger in my team earlier TK'd a light because he felt the light wasn't spotting, then took up position in a bush behind my arty (Crusader SP). That JT player has 26k battles with a win rate of 54% and WN8 of 1,700. He might not be the best player by stats but he's certainly better than many.

 

Would you want him to be commanding your team?

 

Maybe if he'd gotten a shiny commander's badge at the start of the battle the light tank would've listened to him :trollface:

HeidenSieker #16 Posted 07 May 2018 - 10:42 PM

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View PostPrivate_Pearts, on 07 May 2018 - 08:40 PM, said:

During the 30 second countdown would it be viable or even good if there was a designated team commander assigned, maybe to the player with the most experience/highest personal rating who had some basic tools to tell each class where he wants them to go once the timer hits zero?

 

Three top tier tanks from the Matchmaker if not awry,
Five mid-tier but top if two tiers alone,
Seven low, or ten, foremost doomed to die,
One designated team commander who's on his own,
In the Land of Murovanka where the Red Team lie.

 

One team commander to rule them all, One team commander to align them,
One team commander to hamstring them all, and in confusion whine them,
In the Land of Murovanks where the Red Team lie.

 

 

Ach! It's late at night; but I even managed to work a pun in!



HeidenSieker #17 Posted 07 May 2018 - 10:44 PM

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View PostPrivate_Pearts, on 07 May 2018 - 08:40 PM, said:

During the 30 second countdown would it be viable or even good if there was a designated team commander assigned, maybe to the player with the most experience/highest personal rating who had some basic tools to tell each class where he wants them to go once the timer hits zero?

 

I must observe that there are already very many basic tools telling people what they should do.

Balc0ra #18 Posted 07 May 2018 - 10:48 PM

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Going by how that has worked in past games "BF 2142 etc". And how arm chair commanders already work in this game after they are the first to die regardless of experience. I'm willing to bet it would result in more chat bans for commanders when 90% of the team don't do what they want. It's WOT after all.

Jigabachi #19 Posted 07 May 2018 - 11:05 PM

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View PostPrivate_Pearts, on 07 May 2018 - 09:17 PM, said:

I get a bored as **** waiting for that timer to count down,

That's why I tab out after hitting the "BATTLE!" button.

Oh... btw: That would obviously be another reason to vote against your idea. :P



Jumping_TurtIe #20 Posted 07 May 2018 - 11:11 PM

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View PostDorander, on 07 May 2018 - 08:42 PM, said:

I think herding cats is easier than commanding 14 other randoms.

 






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