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Trooper_One #1 Posted 08 May 2018 - 01:08 PM

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Looks like the new V4 (Bobject) finally has triggered another Foch rant. In his latest video he takes on WG's policy of introducing insanely OP T10 tanks to let players spend Gold on Free-XP'ing - but also has particular clear words towards the game developers on the current playability of the game.

 

"Your game is bleeding players right now. 1.0 was a good bandage but gameplay always beats out graphics. Gameplay at Tier 10 has never been any worse than it is today. You need to take a deep look at the people working at the game and sack the ones responsible for the direction this game has gone lately."

 

Since he also got quite personal on Victor (reference to the Circon accident), you might check it out, before it gets shut down (again).

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=RkIIj9VnSRU

 



Strappster #2 Posted 08 May 2018 - 01:11 PM

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Man who hates game he plays for a living complains about game. Again. If I was being cynical, I'd say he wants to stir up more controversy because he hasn't been in the news for a while.



Bradders8 #3 Posted 08 May 2018 - 01:12 PM

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I thought he was a lot calmer in his criticism this time around. Not as many F bombs as the Chrysler video.

 

While I have no idea if his claims about the numbers of players leaving stack up, lets face it, everything he said about the v4 was true.



Balc0ra #4 Posted 08 May 2018 - 01:13 PM

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He rants about everything, and hates everything about the game, yet still plays it. Even the Foch B that no one cares about anymore. Tho he is not wrong as such in this case. He is taking over the top as usual. But I doubt tier X and the Obj is the biggest, or even a big cause for "bleeding" tbh vs other subjects that affects all tiers. As reflected by most topics here. Most players have been bored with tier X for ages due to the balance. Even before the Obj came.

Edited by Balc0ra, 08 May 2018 - 01:15 PM.


CircleOfSorrow #5 Posted 08 May 2018 - 01:13 PM

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I find it weird that he is so keen to mess with the bull.  Where do you think he got his data on player numbers?

soul3ater #6 Posted 08 May 2018 - 01:13 PM

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He is not wrong.

Element6 #7 Posted 08 May 2018 - 01:14 PM

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Seeing as Tier 10 is less than 5% of the total I fail to see how the game can bleed players due to that. If anything, releasing OP stuff up there should draw in more players.

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View PostTrooper_One, on 08 May 2018 - 12:08 PM, said:

Looks like the new V4 (Bobject) finally has triggered another Foch rant. In his latest video he takes on WG's policy of introducing insanely OP T10 tanks to let players spend Gold on Free-XP'ing - but also has particular clear words towards the game developers on the current playability of the game.

 

"Your game is bleeding players right now. 1.0 was a good bandage but gameplay always beats out graphics. Gameplay at Tier 10 has never been any worse than it is today. You need to take a deep look at the people working at the game and sack the ones responsible for the direction this game has gone lately."

 

Since he also got quite personal on Victor (reference to the Circon accident), you might check it out, before it gets shut down (again).

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=RkIIj9VnSRU

 

 

Well it’s good to see that not only does he still understand his target audience, he also understands how to increase it.

 

Is the Chrysler still OP?


Edited by jabster, 08 May 2018 - 01:16 PM.


XxKuzkina_MatxX #9 Posted 08 May 2018 - 01:20 PM

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View Postjabster, on 08 May 2018 - 02:14 PM, said:

 

Well it’s good to see that not only does he still understand his target audience, he also understands how to increase it.

 

Is the Chrysler still OP?

 

What's there to understand??? It's the most monotonic message all over the streams, youtube videos, reviews, game play commentary, etc. "I am drunk, cranky and i hate almost everything" pretty mature I'd say! :)

Igor_BL #10 Posted 08 May 2018 - 01:34 PM

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i doubt he called crysler OP. i think he was describing it as broken and stupid, and not OP.

also i am sure that his focus was how the gun is crap. forces yoh to shoot premium ammo etc etc 

he is totally right about 268v4.

 

this is most broken tank ever. it ruins tierX. 

did you notice what sh cw and advances look a like today?

 

pik 7-8 v4s. push flank, dont stop. win

 

regardless the maps. city map. open map. 268v4 is main pick.

 

tierX is ruined like it was never before.

 

wt auf. type5. old e5. didnt have this bad impact on game, together


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View Postsoul3ater, on 08 May 2018 - 01:13 PM, said:

He is not wrong.

Are you sure?

 

He claims that all bobs can increase their WR a lot, and damage. I just looked at Wot News and it seems there are 35.000 v4's on the EU server, which coincides relatively well with the number of 263's which is 22.902. So how many bobs did grind the 263 when it was T10? Most bobs?

 

Could it perhaps be that since the 263 was an unpopular line, the 704 being 10 times as common as the now removed SU-122-54, that mostly better players actually went for the 263, and as such that explains the 57% WR on the v4 since they are good to begin with? 

 

I'm not quite sure SirFoch really thought that through at all.



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View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 08 May 2018 - 12:20 PM, said:

"I am drunk, cranky and i hate almost everything" 

 

Hmm ... maybe I should subscribe after all if he's speaking my language ... :unsure:



Ceeb #13 Posted 08 May 2018 - 01:37 PM

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I agree with him.
 
WGs decision/play testing at its finest. 
 
No faith at all.... I'll stay away from Tier 10... happily
 
Lol Bobject.... Its officially the new name for it.


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View PostElement6_TheSprout, on 08 May 2018 - 12:35 PM, said:

I'm not quite sure SirFoch really thought that through at all.

 

In that case He truly is the voice of the majority of players.



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the dude talks the truth regarding 268 v4...whatever the "damage control team" sais to "sweeten" the situation....the tank is broke

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View PostElement6_TheSprout, on 08 May 2018 - 01:35 PM, said:

Are you sure?

 

He claims that all bobs can increase their WR a lot, and damage. I just looked at Wot News and it seems there are 35.000 v4's on the EU server, which coincides relatively well with the number of 263's which is 22.902. So how many bobs did grind the 263 when it was T10? Most bobs?

 

Could it perhaps be that since the 263 was an unpopular line, the 704 being 10 times as common as the now removed SU-122-54, that mostly better players actually went for the 263, and as such that explains the 57% WR on the v4 since they are good to begin with? 

 

I'm not quite sure SirFoch really thought that through at all.

 

no. owners of 263 are not good players only. it was never ''purples choice'' like old Paton. 50m. 113 etc

263 were in avg regular players.

 

 

also. about that winrate. tajj posted that winrate curve recently.

and it confirmes what is sirfoch telling. it improves winrate massively. across the board.

bad players. good players... doesnt matter



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Think he actually was very considerate and kind towards WG as a company.

 

I still like and pay/play the game but long since stopped trying to recruit ppl to try it out...as well as getting a sour taste in my mouth for still giving them money to support the f2p horde.

 

One year + left of my premium account, but can no longer see myself continuing support once that runs out....kinda sad since I love tanks and there are no real competitors out there being able to support my addiction :(



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View PostIgor_BL, on 08 May 2018 - 01:40 PM, said:

 

also. about that winrate. tajj posted that winrate curve recently.

and it confirmes what is sirfoch telling. it improves winrate massively. across the board.

bad players. good players... doesnt matter

 

I suck in mine. Probably am the exception to the rule ... :(

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To be honest I don't usually care much for streamer rants but on this occasion he's pretty much 100% spot on.

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View PostElement6_TheSprout, on 08 May 2018 - 12:35 PM, said:

Are you sure?

 

He claims that all bobs can increase their WR a lot, and damage. I just looked at Wot News and it seems there are 35.000 v4's on the EU server, which coincides relatively well with the number of 263's which is 22.902. So how many bobs did grind the 263 when it was T10? Most bobs?

 

Could it perhaps be that since the 263 was an unpopular line, the 704 being 10 times as common as the now removed SU-122-54, that mostly better players actually went for the 263, and as such that explains the 57% WR on the v4 since they are good to begin with? 

 

I'm not quite sure SirFoch really thought that through at all.

 

people didn't go for that line because almost all tiers leading to 263 were trash. 

 

as for the win increase, watch this thread when bobs come in to defend it and check their stats with that tank, surely that will satisfy you.

 

again I agree with everything he said. 

 






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