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WindSplitter1 #1 Posted 12 May 2018 - 08:58 PM

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As above.

hasnainrakha57 #2 Posted 12 May 2018 - 09:05 PM

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1)obj268 line:
1 to tier 9 are fun but obj 268 is the worst td reason worst armor combined with worst gun handling combined with poor gun depression.
2)E50m
1to7 and 9 are fun.Tier 8 panther2 is now worst and e50m is like meh shoot me i got 0 armor with bad dpm.If u want e50m go for m48 patton or stb1 or russian mediums.
3)E4
Better get e3.


Sfinski #3 Posted 12 May 2018 - 09:06 PM

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View Posthasnainrakha57, on 12 May 2018 - 10:05 PM, said:

1)obj268 line:
1 to tier 9 are fun but obj 268 is the worst td reason worst armor combined with worst gun handling combined with poor gun depression.
2)E50m
1to7 and 9 are fun.Tier 8 panther2 is now worst and e50m is like meh shoot me i got 0 armor with bad dpm.If u want e50m go for m48 patton or stb1 or russian mediums.
3)E4
Better get e3.

 

E4 is still one of the best t10 TDs, I'd say second or third best...

DuncaN_101 #4 Posted 12 May 2018 - 09:13 PM

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Any turret less TD that isn't the new bobject isn't worth it.

Most T10 lights aren't worth it either because the Meds can do the same job.
And besides that I'm not sure anymore either.

IncandescentGerbil #5 Posted 12 May 2018 - 09:46 PM

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Tier X lights suck edited when other tier Xs are involved. Tier VII is perhaps the sweet spot.

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None, gotta collect them all.  BUT .... you might want to go up some trees after you're done with the ones you find most enjoyable :)

somegras #7 Posted 12 May 2018 - 10:01 PM

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Let's see:

 

Chinese TD line: Just terrible overall.

121: Grind is terrible and the 430U is just flatout better.

JPE100: Outdated, tier 9 is mediocre at best.

RhM Pzw: Bad tier 10, lots of terrible tanks in the grind towards it.

Leopard 1: Outdated, and the other tanks in the line are nothing spectacular.

E50m: Outdated, and the Panthers are terrible IMO. E50 seems to be good, though.

Object 268: The high tiers are just not very powerful.

IS4: The entire line is mediocre at best.

AMX30b: This tank is quite bad, even after the tweaks, and they ruined the tier 9 IMO.

AMX50B: It's not a bad line, but these tanks got hit hard with the MM changes. Getting matched up versus super HTs isn't much fun.

Foch B: Terrible grind, terrible tier 10.

BC58: Worst tier 10 arty by far. Unless you like farming assist, don't even bother with this tank. The rest of the line is mediocre at best.

AMXM4: Terrible grind towards this tank, and it seems quite underwhelming.

Kranvagn: Seems underwhelming.

T110E5: Terrible tank, and the line is mediocre at best.

Badger: Not very fun to play, and neither are the tanks before it.

Centurion AX: Some may like it, I hate it. The line isn't that good either.

 

 

I think that's all of them. Note that the ones I listed mostly also have bad grinds leading to their respective tier 10s, but there might be some decent tanks in there.

 



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- any arty

- any TD that isn't the 268v4

- any medium that isn't the 430U

- any heavy that isn't the SConq, WZ 5A (or Type 5 if you are willing to fire full gold)

- any light that isn't the T-100LT

 

I wish this was a joke, but it really isn't.



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View PostSfinski, on 12 May 2018 - 08:06 PM, said:

 

E4 is still one of the best t10 TDs, I'd say second or third best...

I rate e4 worst beacuse its armor weak armor with many weak spot i mean everyone know its weak spot even tier8s can pen it so why not go for grille instead?


Edited by hasnainrakha57, 12 May 2018 - 10:26 PM.


Sfinski #10 Posted 12 May 2018 - 10:40 PM

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View Posthasnainrakha57, on 12 May 2018 - 11:26 PM, said:

I rate e4 worst beacuse its armor weak armor with many weak spot i mean everyone know its weak spot even tier8s can pen it so why not go for grille instead?

 

Same reason as people choose to drive 183 instead FV4005, armour doesn't need to be insane to bounce stuff and make people aim at you then few moments longer. Also, more turret rotation. 

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View Postsomegras, on 12 May 2018 - 09:01 PM, said:

Let's see:

 

Chinese TD line: Just terrible overall.

121: Grind is terrible and the 430U is just flatout better.

JPE100: Outdated, tier 9 is mediocre at best.

RhM Pzw: Bad tier 10, lots of terrible tanks in the grind towards it.

Leopard 1: Outdated, and the other tanks in the line are nothing spectacular.

E50m: Outdated, and the Panthers are terrible IMO. E50 seems to be good, though.

Object 268: The high tiers are just not very powerful.

IS4: The entire line is mediocre at best.

AMX30b: This tank is quite bad, even after the tweaks, and they ruined the tier 9 IMO.

AMX50B: It's not a bad line, but these tanks got hit hard with the MM changes. Getting matched up versus super HTs isn't much fun.

Foch B: Terrible grind, terrible tier 10.

BC58: Worst tier 10 arty by far. Unless you like farming assist, don't even bother with this tank. The rest of the line is mediocre at best.

AMXM4: Terrible grind towards this tank, and it seems quite underwhelming.

Kranvagn: Seems underwhelming.

T110E5: Terrible tank, and the line is mediocre at best.

Badger: Not very fun to play, and neither are the tanks before it.

Centurion AX: Some may like it, I hate it. The line isn't that good either.

 

 

I think that's all of them. Note that the ones I listed mostly also have bad grinds leading to their respective tier 10s, but there might be some decent tanks in there.

 

 

Half the tier 10s not worth grinding, balancing at its finest.

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I would say :

 

AMX M4 54 - t10 is not so great, while t9 is awesome

IS4 - ST-1 has better MM, and amazing turret/gun depression

Leopard 1 - maps suck for it, and i have the feeling the new italian line kinda takes away from what made it special ... tanks with good camo, mobility, gun depression that are also reasonably accurate at range (could be wrong but i am looking at the Standard B, and i am seeing a way better Leopard PT A for now)

T-100 LT - only if you need pure scout, t-54 light is otherwise more flexible.

Grille 15 - WG keeps nerfing it, and now it wants to remove it. If you think about it, that position (t10 td after waffle) has been nerfed continously since it was introduced, first as wtf e100, and then as the grille 15.

113 - not so great if you just want that tank now.

wz-113g ft - t9 sees so much better (overall, tier for tier).

STB-1 - not so great grind to it, and it doesn't have good gun handling.

 



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View Postsomegras, on 12 May 2018 - 10:01 PM, said:

Let's see:

 

Chinese TD line: Just terrible overall.

121: Grind is terrible and the 430U is just flatout better.

JPE100: Outdated, tier 9 is mediocre at best.

RhM Pzw: Bad tier 10, lots of terrible tanks in the grind towards it.

Leopard 1: Outdated, and the other tanks in the line are nothing spectacular.

E50m: Outdated, and the Panthers are terrible IMO. E50 seems to be good, though.

Object 268: The high tiers are just not very powerful.

IS4: The entire line is mediocre at best.

AMX30b: This tank is quite bad, even after the tweaks, and they ruined the tier 9 IMO.

AMX50B: It's not a bad line, but these tanks got hit hard with the MM changes. Getting matched up versus super HTs isn't much fun.

Foch B: Terrible grind, terrible tier 10.

BC58: Worst tier 10 arty by far. Unless you like farming assist, don't even bother with this tank. The rest of the line is mediocre at best.

AMXM4: Terrible grind towards this tank, and it seems quite underwhelming.

Kranvagn: Seems underwhelming.

T110E5: Terrible tank, and the line is mediocre at best.

Badger: Not very fun to play, and neither are the tanks before it.

Centurion AX: Some may like it, I hate it. The line isn't that good either.

 

 

I think that's all of them. Note that the ones I listed mostly also have bad grinds leading to their respective tier 10s, but there might be some decent tanks in there.

 

 


Edited by HaZardeur, 13 May 2018 - 12:12 AM.


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There isnt too many that are just unplayable, but there's only few that are cw worthy.

is4, 268 and panzer 7 are ones that arent worth getting at all.

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View Posthasnainrakha57, on 12 May 2018 - 10:05 PM, said:

1)obj268 line:
1 to tier 9 are fun but obj 268 is the worst td reason worst armor combined with worst gun handling combined with poor gun depression.
2)E50m
1to7 and 9 are fun.Tier 8 panther2 is now worst and e50m is like meh shoot me i got 0 armor with bad dpm.If u want e50m go for m48 patton or stb1 or russian mediums.
3)E4
Better get e3.

 

Wrong, on all accounts. Congrats.

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View PostVarzA, on 13 May 2018 - 12:06 AM, said:

I would say :

 

AMX M4 54 - t10 is not so great, while t9 is awesome

IS4 - ST-1 has better MM, and amazing turret/gun depression

Leopard 1 - maps suck for it, and i have the feeling the new italian line kinda takes away from what made it special ... tanks with good camo, mobility, gun depression that are also reasonably accurate at range (could be wrong but i am looking at the Standard B, and i am seeing a way better Leopard PT A for now)

T-100 LT - only if you need pure scout, t-54 light is otherwise more flexible.

Grille 15 - WG keeps nerfing it, and now it wants to remove it. If you think about it, that position (t10 td after waffle) has been nerfed continously since it was introduced, first as wtf e100, and then as the grille 15.

113 - not so great if you just want that tank now.

wz-113g ft - t9 sees so much better (overall, tier for tier).

STB-1 - not so great grind to it, and it doesn't have good gun handling.

 

 

What about the IS7, and the Super Conqueror, are they worth the grind?

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View Postbreeeze, on 12 May 2018 - 10:02 PM, said:

- any arty

- any TD that isn't the 268v4

- any medium that isn't the 430U

- any heavy that isn't the SConq, WZ 5A (or Type 5 if you are willing to fire full gold)

- any light that isn't the T-100LT

 

I wish this was a joke, but it really isn't.

That sounds awfully boring.

 

So basically 4 lines out of all the tanks that are available in the game.



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The level of shortsightedness displayed both in starting this topic, and the responses so far, is astounding.

 

This is a game. People play games for various reasons. Some just want to be the best and have the best equipment. However, what is best is actually very much up for debate because not everybody is the same and, surprise though it might, WOT is NOT just a corridor game. Different situations call for different 'bests'. This is but one perspective. Some people like heavies. Everything else is, to them, at most a diversion from their main interest. Others collect tanks, to them the very idea of not going up any tree at all is anathema.

 

Which tree to go up, if any, is subject to personal preference.



Dorander #19 Posted 13 May 2018 - 02:18 AM

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Honestly half of this question depends on how much gold you want to spam, 'cause that just changes the entire meta, from making superheavies virtually irrelevant to ridiculous damage values. Without that factor, breeeze paints a bleak picture but it's not entirely wrong, if a little harsh on the perfectly playable tanks that are nonetheless harder to play than the straightforward types listed. Oh and the arty thing is kinda irrelevant, arty has its own playstyle which means it can't be straight up compared in terms of sheer damage output.

 

I realize that tier 10 is supposed to feel like this capstone reward and the end-game, but it's perfectly possible to have fun at other tiers so don't discount the tanks you meet along the way. As far as I'm concerned tier 10 is such a ridiculous mess right now I simply pretend it does not exist, I've been having much more fun ever since *hugs his E50... it's okay, we don't need your big brother...*


Edited by Dorander, 13 May 2018 - 02:19 AM.


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frankly most of em

 

I like t57 heavy, m48, e50m, 430u, 140,468v4, 5a, super conq, tvp, kran, batchat

 

rest of them are meh






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