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Nerf FV 4005

He give one shoot to all tank

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Calming_Gunner #1 Posted 13 May 2018 - 12:10 PM

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He give one shoot to all tanks.



Baldrickk #2 Posted 13 May 2018 - 12:13 PM

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Shoot it with HE

TsundereWaffle #3 Posted 13 May 2018 - 12:19 PM

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Don’t you hate it when you get a shoot?

AvengerOrion #4 Posted 13 May 2018 - 12:21 PM

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sgtYester #5 Posted 13 May 2018 - 12:24 PM

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No those lucky hits are fine, most of the time u do 500/600 damage

 

problem is that wg buffed HE damage when they changed183 for the badger, and while that is fine,  one other class that shall not be mentioned here got a HUGE buff and are now stupidly op broken once more



Baldrickk #6 Posted 13 May 2018 - 12:28 PM

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View PostsgtYester, on 13 May 2018 - 12:24 PM, said:

No those lucky hits are fine, most of the time u do 500/600 damage

 

problem is that wg buffed HE damage when they changed183 for the badger, and while that is fine,  one other class that shall not be mentioned here got a HUGE buff and are now stupidly op broken once more

Huh? Reference please.



Enforcer1975 #7 Posted 13 May 2018 - 12:51 PM

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It's fun when you get these moments every 100 hits.....when you hit...

 


Edited by Enforcer1975, 13 May 2018 - 12:51 PM.


sgtYester #8 Posted 13 May 2018 - 01:20 PM

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View PostBaldrickk, on 13 May 2018 - 12:28 PM, said:

Huh? Reference please.

 

what?  ur telling me u did not notice that HE damage increased with the fv183 change? 



Jazzy_Jeff #9 Posted 13 May 2018 - 02:02 PM

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DuncaN_101 #10 Posted 13 May 2018 - 02:07 PM

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Tell us where the bad big gun hit you.

HaZardeur #11 Posted 13 May 2018 - 02:11 PM

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Baldrickk #12 Posted 13 May 2018 - 02:57 PM

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View PostsgtYester, on 13 May 2018 - 01:20 PM, said:

 

what?  ur telling me u did not notice that HE damage increased with the fv183 change? 

I honestly did not. 

Spoiler

I also cant see anything about it 


Edited by Baldrickk, 13 May 2018 - 03:00 PM.


hasnainrakha57 #13 Posted 13 May 2018 - 09:26 PM

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View PostAvengerOrion, on 13 May 2018 - 11:21 AM, said:

EXTERMINATE!

Terminate also!



TheOddRogue #14 Posted 13 May 2018 - 09:41 PM

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People complain about tanks such as Type 5, but are fine with FV, deathstar, t49 derp, kv2. By being so accepting of broken diseased HE guns it set a precedent for the Type 5 derp, communities own fault they're in the crapnow.  

 


Edited by TheOddRogue, 13 May 2018 - 09:42 PM.


Baldrickk #15 Posted 13 May 2018 - 10:00 PM

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View PostTheOddRogue, on 13 May 2018 - 09:41 PM, said:

People complain about tanks such as Type 5, but are fine with FV, deathstar, t49 derp, kv2. By being so accepting of broken diseased HE guns it set a precedent for the Type 5 derp, communities own fault they're in the crapnow.  

 

Not really.

Every one of those don't have the armour to take the hits.

The FV183 is the only one with any armour, thanks to the buff but got a mobility nerf to go with it, and it still isnt that strong.

Nothing like the armour of a type 5



UrQuan #16 Posted 13 May 2018 - 10:09 PM

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View PostTheOddRogue, on 13 May 2018 - 09:41 PM, said:

People complain about tanks such as Type 5, but are fine with FV, deathstar, t49 derp, kv2. By being so accepting of broken diseased HE guns it set a precedent for the Type 5 derp, communities own fault they're in the crapnow.  

 

 

The big problem with the Type 5 (and by extension the jap heavy line) is the combination of strong armor & derp gun & view range. It can deal guaranteed damage & it's hard to hide from it, even at range, while you got to pray your shot pens (and for soft tanks, hope he doesn't spot you when you aim), or the Jap heavy driver is dumb enough to show his sides / overextend.

Pressing 2 is not always a solution, as not all guns come with much higher prem penetration.

 

The others you mentioned usually trade in their armor/mobility/viewrange for their derp gun & hence feel alot more balanced to fight against, not to mention that bad play in those is often much harsher penalized by quick death (unlike the jap heavies)

Only one with good armor & powerful derp gun that isn't a jap heavy is the Jagpanzer E-100 TD & it trades it for slow reload & bad mobility + casemate tank (making the bad mobility an even worse drawback compared to a turreted vehicle)

T49 does have good mobility & viewrange, but trades it for atrocious gun handling & the inability to fight itself out any situation by itself (bar a lucky pen/damage roll).



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View PostCalming_Gunner, on 13 May 2018 - 01:10 PM, said:

He give one shoot to all tanks.

 

So grind one and oneshot all tanks with it. Profit.

_Dunc_ #18 Posted 13 May 2018 - 10:53 PM

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FV4005/FV215b 183 is OP only when the following conditions are met;

- Right map

- He has prem HESH loaded

- There's no tiny bits of scenery between you and him

- You stop in front of him and present a weakspot

- RNGesus decides to troll you the target, rather than the usual thing of trolling the 183 by launching the shot into orbit

- having fired the gun, 183 can duck into cover and not get shot.

- 26 seconds later, nothing has changed, nobody is aiming at 183, allowing him to repeat the above

 

It's not even broken - for every 20 games, you'll have four when you literally do nothing because the gun trolls you, one or two where you crank out 6k+ because the above conditions apply, and the rest of the time you'll do ~2.5k.... which is exactly like the other Tier X TDs.

 

 



Baldrickk #19 Posted 13 May 2018 - 11:59 PM

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View PostGerman_Dunc, on 13 May 2018 - 10:53 PM, said:

 you literally do nothing because the gun trolls you, 

Oh like last time i took out my 183...

 

Me vs IS-7 on a corner. 

Presh loaded. (Yeah, AP would have been better but it's what i had loaded for fighting mediums)

Pull out enough to hit his UFP.

Hit UFP. Point blank. (Sub 10m. Definitely did not miss.  Saw shell detonate)

Critical hit. 

Tracks ate all the damage. 

Not even tracked. 

 



NUKLEAR_SLUG #20 Posted 14 May 2018 - 12:00 AM

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View PostDuncaN_101, on 13 May 2018 - 02:07 PM, said:

Tell us where the bad big gun hit you.

 

Everywhere apparently. :P






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