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nickdragon13 #1 Posted 13 May 2018 - 04:21 PM

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Can WG tell us if they have decided something about returning old tanks that used to be available in game for bonds?I know they were considering this but is there any new about this idea?Personally Im looking forward to see this, especially the Death Star :)

Jigabachi #2 Posted 13 May 2018 - 04:28 PM

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No, thanks. Those can stay wherever they are now. There is a reason why they got removed.

Fighto #3 Posted 13 May 2018 - 05:57 PM

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View PostJigabachi, on 13 May 2018 - 03:28 PM, said:

No, thanks. Those can stay wherever they are now. There is a reason why they got removed.

 

Ah the tier 10 grand master , he has never played tier 10 and never will but tells the world how it should be.

RamRaid90 #4 Posted 13 May 2018 - 06:01 PM

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View PostFighto, on 13 May 2018 - 04:57 PM, said:

 

Ah the tier 10 grand master , he has never played tier 10 and never will but tells the world how it should be.

 

OK i'll tell you.

No, leave them out the game.

Deathstar is broken as crap and should be removed completely.

And do you really want Wt auf E-100s running around again?

Balc0ra #5 Posted 13 May 2018 - 06:08 PM

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View PostFighto, on 13 May 2018 - 05:57 PM, said:

 

Ah the tier 10 grand master , he has never played tier 10 and never will but tells the world how it should be.

 

Okay then... He is not wrong tho. They were removed for a reason. And most of them should never be made available again IMO.

 

Then again if everyone knows they can get tier X tanks planned for removal later for bonds. Why rush now and buy free XP and silver for real money to get it in time when I can get it later? I doubt WG want's that either tbh.


Edited by Balc0ra, 13 May 2018 - 06:10 PM.


slitth #6 Posted 13 May 2018 - 06:22 PM

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If they are to return, then let them be available for silver credits so they can be changed (nerfed) if needed.

 

I mean if they can make negative change to premium ammunition because it was available for gold, then perhaps it same with tanks.

If that the case then WG should stop selling new tanks for gold or really currency.

 

And it could work if they gave new tanks a really high credit price.

 

The old tanks are harder because you probably need to give a gold refund for each premium tanks bought with gold or really currency.

But it can be done, if they do it in small numbers.

Take the American T34.

 

You could add a third version to the game that is available for credits. Let just call it the T34 C for now.

T34 C is only available for 20.000.000,00 credits.

It can get a black camouflage that matches the T34B

And it has better stats that makes it compatible to new tanks.

 

Then you give a offer to all players that has the T34 and T34B.

In this offer they get 12.000 gold and the T34 C.

 

That way you can get rid of most of the T34 and T34 B that bought with gold or really currency.

And WG is free to nerf and buff the T 34 C as the game balance demands without any fear of refund problems.



nickdragon13 #7 Posted 13 May 2018 - 07:01 PM

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Keep the thread drama free please.
As mentioned there were some reasons which those tanks were removed, like being (some of them) weaker compared to those of the current tree tech BUT there should be a chance given to those who werent able to get them on time(before the removal).Making them available again and especially for bonds wont have any negative effect on game.In contrary, players will be forced to grind up to tier 10 and run different events in which bonds will be part of the reward.

RamRaid90 #8 Posted 13 May 2018 - 07:04 PM

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View Postnickdragon13, on 13 May 2018 - 06:01 PM, said:

Keep the thread drama free please.
As mentioned there were some reasons which those tanks were removed, like being (some of them) weaker compared to those of the current tree tech BUT there should be a chance given to those who werent able to get them on time(before the removal).Making them available again and especially for bonds wont have any negative effect on game.In contrary, players will be forced to grind up to tier 10 and run different events in which bonds will be part of the reward.

 

No they were mostly removed because they were too strong and unable to be balanced without making them unplayable, or because they didn't fit with the lines in the game.

 

For the latter simply nerfing them to tier VIII standard and making them available as premiums would suffice.

 

Bonds tanks should be totally unique, new tanks.



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Are you actually employing that the WTF E100 was more OP than the 268-4??  Sorry guys not a chance. The amount of op broken tanks in the game the WT-E100 would barely be noticed now.

 

To be honest I never really play tier 10 in randoms but I'm grinding the 430 and Patton m46 and after that I'll be playing a lot of tier 10, but if the WT was that OP back in the day it would have been in every Clan war game. It wasn't, hardly ever seen, now compare that to the 268-4 today.


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View Postnickdragon13, on 13 May 2018 - 03:21 PM, said:

Can WG tell us if they have decided something about returning old tanks that used to be available in game for bonds?I know they were considering this but is there any new about this idea?Personally Im looking forward to see this, especially the Death Star :)

 



nickdragon13 #11 Posted 13 May 2018 - 07:14 PM

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View PostRamRaid90, on 13 May 2018 - 06:04 PM, said:

 

No they were mostly removed because they were too strong and unable to be balanced without making them unplayable, or because they didn't fit with the lines in the game.

 

For the latter simply nerfing them to tier VIII standard and making them available as premiums would suffice.

 

Bonds tanks should be totally unique, new tanks.

 

I dont think adjusting some of them to tier 8 would be a good idea.Consider those who already have those tanks in garage...They wont agree on this.Furthermore, there should still be a chance for those who dont have them to get their hands up to em as I mentioned above!However if they consider to make new tanks and sell them only gor bonds, they should be competitive and not crappy paper tanks like the tanks from personal missions.
 

View PostBulldog_Drummond, on 13 May 2018 - 06:12 PM, said:

 

 

Lol.Well at least the cow is back!:D
 

RamRaid90 #12 Posted 13 May 2018 - 08:00 PM

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View PostFighto, on 13 May 2018 - 04:57 PM, said:

 

Ah the tier 10 grand master , he has never played tier 10 and never will but tells the world how it should be.

 

View PostFighto, on 13 May 2018 - 06:10 PM, said:

Are you actually employing that the WTF E100 was more OP than the 268-4??  Sorry guys not a chance. The amount of op broken tanks in the game the WT-E100 would barely be noticed now.

 

To be honest I never really play tier 10 in randoms but I'm grinding the 430 and Patton m46 and after that I'll be playing a lot of tier 10, but if the WT was that OP back in the day it would have been in every Clan war game. It wasn't, hardly ever seen, now compare that to the 268-4 today.

 

:D

 

And yes, at the time the WT e-100 was the most broken POS in the game. It was removed for exactly that reason.

 

Not sure you understand the difference between overpowered and broken.

 

View Postnickdragon13, on 13 May 2018 - 06:14 PM, said:

 

I dont think adjusting some of them to tier 8 would be a good idea.Consider those who already have those tanks in garage...They wont agree on this.Furthermore, there should still be a chance for those who dont have them to get their hands up to em as I mentioned above!However if they consider to make new tanks and sell them only gor bonds, they should be competitive and not crappy paper tanks like the tanks from personal missions.

 

II don't think you understand how it would work.

 

People who already have it keep it as it is.

 

The rebalanced version would have a letter (normally P) added to the end


 

Edited by Daxeno, 14 May 2018 - 05:16 PM.


Corruption_Clan #13 Posted 13 May 2018 - 08:18 PM

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Hopefully they introduce something soon that make Bonds worthwhile as I am nearly up to 11k bonds and I don't fancy buying any of those equipment

DutchBaron_ #14 Posted 13 May 2018 - 08:26 PM

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Well if I am guessing, tier 10 tanks will be at least 10k bonds, (double of improved equipment at least) so you need to be an real active player in multiple events to buy even 1. So with the amount of people that are going to buy a tank I don't see a reason to deny those people since we are talking about real low numbers. U don't see any problems with like 1% more death stars

I would day, most people that can afford to buy an tank with bonds are already very active players, that most likely already have most of these tanks
 

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Not tanks that are gone from the game, but I won`t mind getting an Obj 907 with bonds. 

Tankyouverymuch2 #16 Posted 13 May 2018 - 08:43 PM

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They'd need to be new tanks...

 

I also want to know if anything has been decided on this matter, as I'm sitting on over 12,000 bonds and they're just collecting dust in my safe, waiting to be used on buying tanks... If that won't ever happen, I'll just get the improved equipment and that's that.



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View PostFighto, on 13 May 2018 - 05:57 PM, said:

Ah the tier 10 grand master , he has never played tier 10 and never will but tells the world how it should be.

Funny, isn't it? And all you need to do so is some common sense.



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View PostJigabachi, on 13 May 2018 - 08:12 PM, said:

Funny, isn't it? And all you need to do so is some common sense.

 

View PostRamRaid90, on 13 May 2018 - 07:00 PM, said:

 

 

:D

 

And yes, at the time the WT e-100 was the most broken POS in the game. It was removed for exactly that reason.

 

Not sure you understand the difference between overpowered and broken.

 

Not sure you understand either and I get the feeling you have ZERO experience in either playing or dealing with the WT E-100  but i'll repeat if the WT was that op it would have been played in CW battles it rarely was seen in that environment. It was easily penned , arty had a field day against it and the reload was massive. 

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View PostFighto, on 13 May 2018 - 10:51 PM, said:

 

 

Not sure you understand either and I get the feeling you have ZERO experience in either playing or dealing with the WT E-100  but i'll repeat if the WT was that op it would have been played in CW battles it rarely was seen in that environment. It was easily penned , arty had a field day against it and the reload was massive. 

 

Still not understandin difference between broken and OP. Learn it, then come back with arguments.

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View PostFighto, on 13 May 2018 - 08:51 PM, said:

 

 

Not sure you understand either and I get the feeling you have ZERO experience in either playing or dealing with the WT E-100  but i'll repeat if the WT was that op it would have been played in CW battles it rarely was seen in that environment. It was easily penned , arty had a field day against it and the reload was massive. 

 

And yet it could destroy a Maus, with autoaim, in 10 seconds. I have plenty of experience fighting against it, and it would lock down an entire firing lane because nobody dare take the clip.

 

A little broken yes?

 

Not OP.

 

BROKEN.

 

Understand?


Edited by RamRaid90, 13 May 2018 - 10:20 PM.





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