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ortega456 #1 Posted 14 May 2018 - 11:40 PM

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Hey guys,

 

so I'm playing some tier 6 at the moment and what I notice is that before frontline starts and after it stops I only get tier 8 games and while frontline is online I sometimes get full tier 6 or tier 7 games like 1 in 5 (top tier so far in like 40 games I've never gotten once).

Additionally during the frontline game mode tier 8 in randoms means you exclusively get tier 10 games no matter what.

 

Anybody else noticing this?

 

And if yes, I would recommend WG to invent some cool game mode for tier 10 and tier 9 tanks so it eventually evens out the horrendous influence of the 3-5-7 pattern in order to have equal amount of bottom-mid-top-tier games.



ExistanceUK #2 Posted 14 May 2018 - 11:45 PM

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Anecdotally, I've been seeing roughly the same. Tier 7 it's either top or bottom tier and not middle. Also yes tier 8 feels like it is bottom 90% of the time and the other 10% is middle tier to the tier 9s.



Pansenmann #3 Posted 14 May 2018 - 11:48 PM

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interesting...

Dorander #4 Posted 14 May 2018 - 11:54 PM

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Since I only play FL during the times when it's availabe I have not personally noticed this but it does not surprise me.

 

Assume an even distribution of players active in the tiers for the sake of argument (since we have no data), pick any value you want. You for example have 1000 players at tier 6, 1000 at tier 7 and 1000 at tier 8 playing. Then Frontline mode opens and half of those tier 8 players go play Frontline instead so you have only 500 players in tier 8 playing randoms. How many battles can you create using a 3/5/7 template given how many players are left at tier 6, 7 and 8, compared to any other template?

 

The main problem with Matchmaking seems to be that it is primarily focused on starting battles quickly, not on ensuring these battles are fair. It could for example prioritize equal tier battles and apply the leftovers to a necessary template, thereby drastically reducing the occurrence of a 3/5/7 split for example. But I think we can state with quite some confidence that it doesn't work that way.



Balc0ra #5 Posted 14 May 2018 - 11:59 PM

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I feel it's the other way around. As when playing tier 8's in randoms when FL is on. You hardly see top or equal tier games.

 

Then again tier 8+ MM after the changes made tier 6 a bit worse off if you will. And why I think that 3-5-7 on tier 8+ is a waste of time, as tier 6 and 8 MM was better according to most before that MM came. As then hardly anyone complained about tier 6 MM. Tho tier 8 always had MM rant topis even before that. 


Edited by Balc0ra, 15 May 2018 - 12:00 AM.


Spurtung #6 Posted 15 May 2018 - 02:46 AM

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I can tell that happens and I'm not even playing randoms during FL...

 

It's only the most "no crap, Sherlock" inducing thread ever since Ranked battles also fixed tier 8. Such surprise, much wow.



undutchable80 #7 Posted 15 May 2018 - 07:02 AM

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Played 16 games yesterday (T6-7) during FL opening hours and got bottom tier in 3-5-7 only twice. Rest of the times was +1 / same tier, and a couple even as mid-/toptier. So yes, even though small data set; noticeable difference to me.

 

Another reason for +1 to FL! :great:



Baldrickk #8 Posted 15 May 2018 - 07:26 AM

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View PostBalc0ra, on 14 May 2018 - 11:59 PM, said:

I feel it's the other way around. As when playing tier 8's in randoms when FL is on. You hardly see top or equal tier games.

 

Then again tier 8+ MM after the changes made tier 6 a bit worse off if you will. And why I think that 3-5-7 on tier 8+ is a waste of time, as tier 6 and 8 MM was better according to most before that MM came. As then hardly anyone complained about tier 6 MM. Tho tier 8 always had MM rant topis even before that. 

Actually that's the same way round as OP is saying ;)

 

And yes, anecdotally, I've noticed the same. 

It makes sense. 



IncandescentGerbil #9 Posted 15 May 2018 - 10:02 AM

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Of course. I don't enjoy or play FL, but it benefits tier VII mm a bit. I don't play Ranked either, but it removes a lot of tier Xs from the random queue, which makes it a great time to play your tier X and bully lower tiers.




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