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TheOddRogue #1 Posted 15 May 2018 - 10:32 PM

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I am very curious about this tank since it's a new tier 9 med, my favorite class of tanks in the game. 

 

On paper it seems pretty unimpressive with the 10.55 second third clip reload, gives it pretty bad effective DPM under circumstances you use it as non autoloader. Also 3 sec intraclip reload for 360 alpha gun seems lackluster as well. 

 

Gunhandling seems to be slightly worse than skoda t 50, so it's decent. Penetration is great. 

 

Mobility, gun depression seems to be solid though. 

 

So what's the consensus? 



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​What sets it, as well as all the auto-reloaders apart from standard tanks is their versatility. No other tanks in the game have the ability to be able to choose between burst or sustained fire without having to suffer a long reload. 

 

On paper the dpm sucks, but in the vast majority of cases in autoloaders you very rarely get to expend your full clip, often with 1-2 shells remaining. Auto-reloaders get rid of this problem as you are able to reload whilst still having shells in the magazine. 

 

Personally I think its a great mechanic, takes some getting used to but if utilised properly will be a very powerful tool in the right hands. 



Procjon #3 Posted 16 May 2018 - 04:01 AM

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View PostTheOddRogue, on 15 May 2018 - 09:32 PM, said:

I am very curious about this tank since it's a new tier 9 med, my favorite class of tanks in the game. 

 

On paper it seems pretty unimpressive with the 10.55 second third clip reload, gives it pretty bad effective DPM under circumstances you use it as non autoloader. Also 3 sec intraclip reload for 360 alpha gun seems lackluster as well. 

 

Gunhandling seems to be slightly worse than skoda t 50, so it's decent. Penetration is great. 

 

Mobility, gun depression seems to be solid though. 

 

So what's the consensus? 

 

Buy it...better for me as my shells go into them like a knife in the butter :trollface:

 

My observation is once they reach the 1st line of fire they start running away after taking solid damage. I find Chech tanks more bouncy.

 

If you play vs inexperienced player it is ok but PROS know how to keep you at distance and enjoy farming.

 

HF

 

ps. I think Italian tanks are best at tier 8.

 

 

 

 


Edited by Procjon, 16 May 2018 - 04:06 AM.


L4NDe #4 Posted 16 May 2018 - 05:19 AM

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Soon enough I'm able to tell you how it feels to play it. I hope its mixture of amx 30 & skoda t50 but I have a bad feeling that it doesn't have that same carry potential as those two I mentioned. On paper it looks very mobile with decent accuracy and great gun depression but there is pretty much no armor to bounce lowertiers and quite long intra-clip reload with bad dpm. To make a difference on battlefield is going to be quite a lot harder than with other great tier9 meds.

Kolmiopaavo #5 Posted 16 May 2018 - 05:37 AM

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Garbage.

 

Every time I played it I wished I was a proper autoloader like Skoda or some of the better single shot tanks like M46.



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Meh.

unrealname #7 Posted 16 May 2018 - 07:25 AM

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im not even considering to grind italian line, because even on paper its total crap, only the prem is actually really good i guess. Just by looking at the tier 9 - it has light tank armor, every shot, at any angle pens you, intraclip reload is 50 120 level of crap, 0 gun depression to the rear of the tank so you cant even shoot while runing away lol. IMO pretty much any single shot or autoloader at tier 9 is better than this pizzatank, well appart from leo pta i guess :D why play this if you can play with amx 30 for example? fully pimped out it has 3,4k dpm at tier 9! and thats without bond equipment or directives

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View Postunrealname, on 16 May 2018 - 08:25 AM, said:

im not even considering to grind italian line, because even on paper its total crap, only the prem is actually really good i guess. Just by looking at the tier 9 - it has light tank armor, every shot, at any angle pens you, intraclip reload is 50 120 level of crap, 0 gun depression to the rear of the tank so you cant even shoot while runing away lol. IMO pretty much any single shot or autoloader at tier 9 is better than this pizzatank, well appart from leo pta i guess :D why play this if you can play with amx 30 for example? fully pimped out it has 3,4k dpm at tier 9! and thats without bond equipment or directives

 

hey that's insulting to pizza.

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It doesn't look impressive on paper and in battle I have never seen one of those tanks perform well. You're gonna be better off with most other T9 meds.

Simeon85 #10 Posted 16 May 2018 - 09:50 AM

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Gun handling is worse than a Skoda T50 which is worrying me and the intra-clip at 3s looks crap.

 

It's probably workable but does not look like a keeper to me, I still have about 80k to go on the Pantera, which is pretty good and have all the free XP ready to go to fully upgrade the prototipo.

 

Tier 10 looks good to me though. 



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View Postunrealname, on 16 May 2018 - 06:25 AM, said:

im not even considering to grind italian line, because even on paper its total crap, only the prem is actually really good i guess. Just by looking at the tier 9 - it has light tank armor, every shot, at any angle pens you, intraclip reload is 50 120 level of crap, 0 gun depression to the rear of the tank so you cant even shoot while runing away lol. IMO pretty much any single shot or autoloader at tier 9 is better than this pizzatank, well appart from leo pta i guess :D why play this if you can play with amx 30 for example? fully pimped out it has 3,4k dpm at tier 9! and thats without bond equipment or directives

 

The Pantera is pretty decent, though a bit worse than the Progetto 46.

Only better point is having some frontal turret armour, but loses in gun handling.

Dont know yet about the tier 9 but I will sure grind it.

The problem is that you have to have 171 k free xp at the bank to make the tier 9 elite the moment you unlock/buy it.

So I am taking my time,



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View Posttank276, on 16 May 2018 - 09:55 AM, said:

 

The Pantera is pretty decent, though a bit worse than the Progetto 46.

Only better point is having some frontal turret armour, but loses in gun handling.

Dont know yet about the tier 9 but I will sure grind it.

The problem is that you have to have 171 k free xp at the bank to make the tier 9 elite the moment you unlock/buy it.

So I am taking my time,

 

The radio is not really that important, so it's 161k to fully upgrade, which is a lot, but probably needed as the tank doesn't look great fully upgraded so is probably a pig stock. 

TheOddRogue #13 Posted 16 May 2018 - 11:45 AM

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Ok good to know this one is a stinker, a shame though since tier 9's are usually decent in a tech tree, I guess WG really wanted to milk the FREE XP out of everyone so they skip to the tier 10, sad :(

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View PostSimeon85, on 16 May 2018 - 09:31 AM, said:

 

The radio is not really that important, so it's 161k to fully upgrade, which is a lot, but probably needed as the tank doesn't look great fully upgraded so is probably a pig stock. 

 

The radio, yes, you are right.

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View PostL4NDe, on 16 May 2018 - 04:19 AM, said:

Soon enough I'm able to tell you how it feels to play it. I hope its mixture of amx 30 & skoda t50 but I have a bad feeling that it doesn't have that same carry potential as those two I mentioned. On paper it looks very mobile with decent accuracy and great gun depression but there is pretty much no armor to bounce lowertiers and quite long intra-clip reload with bad dpm. To make a difference on battlefield is going to be quite a lot harder than with other great tier9 meds.

 

Yup, its pretty bad. 360 aplha, 3 shells, 3 sec intra-clip. Dpm is horrible. Tier7 artys pen you with all their shots. It needs 390 alpha & 2-2.5 sec intra-clip reload.

 

My advice for this tank is max your view range & camo. You want to sit back, spot and snipe with this tank. You cant afford to take any shots from artys. Even when you are toptier you cant push flanks. Snap two shots in when ever you can & pray.



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The gun handling kills it. Also it feels quite sluggish after the pantera.

Skipped most of the grind with it, the tier 10 is way better.

luumu #17 Posted 20 May 2018 - 05:35 PM

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I really like it. Bad dpm is balanced trough flexibility of autoreloader. As a stock it is like a very sluggish progetto 46, higly recomend that you have enough free exp for gun atleast. Only good thing about the grind is that tracks are optional, atleast with rammer+v-stab+optics combo. Ammorack gets damaged all the time from shots at frontal hull, double repair kit is something to think about. Also driver gets killed allmost every game.

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Just like swedish. tier 10 S tank is a stinker to play/fight against and Krangvan is trash too. WG love there useless nation tank introductions.

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View PostSearch_Warrant, on 20 May 2018 - 11:56 PM, said:

Just like swedish. tier 10 S tank is a stinker to play/fight against and Krangvan is trash too. WG love there useless nation tank introductions.

 

Well i suppose its quite hard to tell whats its like since you dont even have it, or the swedish tier 10's. 
But hey cheers for the input anyway

XxKuzkina_MatxX #20 Posted 21 May 2018 - 04:02 AM

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View PostFlavortown, on 21 May 2018 - 01:17 AM, said:

 

Well i suppose its quite hard to tell whats its like since you dont even have it, or the swedish tier 10's
But hey cheers for the input anyway

 

Aside from that fact he's kind of right. Those orphan tech trees (Czech, Swedish and recently Italian) once they're introduced they are completely forgotten. WG doesn't try to modify or enhance those tanks at all or even introduce premiums in these nations (aside from the primo victoria which is useless as a crew trainer). TVP penetration, Kranvagn gun handling and mobility, STRV crippling siege mode and Progetto DPM. They look like fragments meanwhile the Russian tree is never boring there's always some change or some new tanks!




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