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Bulldog_Drummond #1 Posted 19 May 2018 - 07:20 PM

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Something that puzzles me, and about which I am curious, is why anyone pays any attention to Silver.  One reads these (at times somewhat boastful) accounts of how so and so has just got 500K or whatever playing FL killing noobs, but what good is it?

 

Given that Silver stacks up game by game regardless there must surely be no real need to go out of the way for it.  Surely we have by now all fully equipped our tanks and have no interest in any such mad folly as buying Tier 10 tanks?



peekakilla #2 Posted 19 May 2018 - 07:32 PM

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you don't play tier 10 do you?

8126Jakobsson #3 Posted 19 May 2018 - 07:36 PM

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Well the ladies love an impressive credits account, so there's that.

Dorander #4 Posted 19 May 2018 - 07:38 PM

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People who pay attention to silver credits usually have a combination of the following:

 

an interest in playing higher tiers (6+)

no interest in buying a lot of premium tanks for variety or to grind a single premium tank over and over to keep up their credits

an interest in a large garage with many different tanks, fully equipped

a desire to fire premium ammo



Homer_J #5 Posted 19 May 2018 - 07:39 PM

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View PostBulldog_Drummond, on 19 May 2018 - 07:20 PM, said:

 

Given that Silver stacks up game by game regardless

 

Not if you play GW Tiger P with food and premium fuel.

Bulldog_Drummond #6 Posted 19 May 2018 - 07:46 PM

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View PostHomer_J, on 19 May 2018 - 06:39 PM, said:

 

Not if you play GW Tiger P with food and premium fuel.

 

When Ling was communicating to any person the signs by which messengers might find him, he was compelled to add, "the neighbourhood in which this contemptible person resides is that officially known as 'the mean quarter favoured by the lower class of those who murder by treachery'," and for this reason he was not always treated with the regard to which his attainments entitled him, or which he would have unquestionably received had he been able to describe himself as of "the partly-drained and uninfected area reserved to Mandarins and their friends."

Nethraniel #7 Posted 19 May 2018 - 07:50 PM

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Just counting the tanks I have unlocked but not bought yet, I am so to speak at - 40 m creds balance at the moment. So, I allways lack silver. 

Bulldog_Drummond #8 Posted 19 May 2018 - 07:50 PM

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View Post8126Jakobsson, on 19 May 2018 - 06:36 PM, said:

Well the ladies love an impressive credits account, so there's that.

 

It is true that many a young person, initially repelled by my loathsome appearance, and advanced old age, has become somewhat frisky on my revealing to them that I have a few hundred thousand silver in world of tanks.

Nazgarth #9 Posted 19 May 2018 - 07:56 PM

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He says with over 40 prem tanks in his garage. lmfao.

Element6 #10 Posted 19 May 2018 - 08:03 PM

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View PostNazgarth, on 19 May 2018 - 07:56 PM, said:

He says with over 40 prem tanks in his garage. lmfao.

I have probably close to 60 and still lack credits.

 

When most of your grinds get to T8+ and you are average then income doesn't meet increases in cost, at least not when you grind 'em all and equip them :P



Dorander #11 Posted 19 May 2018 - 08:14 PM

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Quite frankly I think this entire thread is just a reference to Bulldog_Drummond's age and the effects it has on his hair. It's only getting more and more silver, until it's gone.

Bulldog_Drummond #12 Posted 19 May 2018 - 09:05 PM

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View PostDorander, on 19 May 2018 - 07:14 PM, said:

Quite frankly I think this entire thread is just a reference to Bulldog_Drummond's age and the effects it has on his hair. It's only getting more and more silver, until it's gone.

 

It is always a pleasure to have an intelligent discussion on these matters.  I am reminded of O's thoughts on Sir Stephen and older men generally in Pauline Reage's 'Story of O'

 

But however entrancing such literary thoughts may be, this is a thread about gameplay and I would encourage posters to stick to the point.



Dorander #13 Posted 19 May 2018 - 09:24 PM

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View PostBulldog_Drummond, on 19 May 2018 - 08:05 PM, said:

 

It is always a pleasure to have an intelligent discussion on these matters.  I am reminded of O's thoughts on Sir Stephen and older men generally in Pauline Reage's 'Story of O'

 

But however entrancing such literary thoughts may be, this is a thread about gameplay and I would encourage posters to stick to the point.

 

I'm sure Ling agrees :trollface:

UrQuan #14 Posted 19 May 2018 - 09:37 PM

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View PostDorander, on 19 May 2018 - 07:38 PM, said:

People who pay attention to silver credits usually have a combination of the following:

 

an interest in playing higher tiers (6+)

no interest in buying a lot of premium tanks for variety or to grind a single premium tank over and over to keep up their credits

an interest in a large garage with many different tanks, fully equipped

a desire to fire premium ammo

 

Don't forget premium consumables. To buy a decent stack of them during a sale, you still need plenty of credits.

250swb #15 Posted 19 May 2018 - 10:36 PM

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View PostBulldog_Drummond, on 19 May 2018 - 06:20 PM, said:

, but what good is it?

 

 

Essentially the rush for easy silver in FL is meant from WG's point of view to feed back into Random battles with the increased affordability of Premium ammo, especially now that Premium ammo cannot be bought with Gold. This them increases the need for even more Premium ammo spam from other players in Randoms, so completing the cycle fully to the benefit of Wargaming. The consequences of this silver avarice has made FL a 'great game' in the minds of many players but they haven't thought the consequences through and particularly their manipulation by WG. With the new patch WG have given with one hand by making premium ammo only available for silver, and then taken away by making a game mode that racks up masses of silver.


Edited by 250swb, 19 May 2018 - 10:39 PM.


Bulldog_Drummond #16 Posted 19 May 2018 - 10:42 PM

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View Post250swb, on 19 May 2018 - 09:36 PM, said:

 

Essentially the rush for easy silver in FL is meant from WG's point of view to feed back into Random battles with the increased affordability of Premium ammo, especially now that Premium ammo cannot be bought with Gold. This them increases the need for even more Premium ammo spam from other players in Randoms, so completing the cycle fully to the benefit of Wargaming. The consequences of this silver avarice has made FL a 'great game' in the minds of many players but they haven't thought the consequences through and particularly their manipulation by WG. With the new patch WG have given with one hand by making premium ammo only available for silver, and then taken away by making a game mode that racks up masses of silver.

 

There may be something in what you say.  However I doubt that anyone in their right mind has paid real cash for gold ammo for years

 

I have certainly been watching with a jaded eye all those following the pied piper into the FrontLine Candy Mountain silver mine.   Let's hope they keep their kidney.

 

 

 


Edited by Bulldog_Drummond, 19 May 2018 - 10:46 PM.


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View PostBulldog_Drummond, on 19 May 2018 - 09:42 PM, said:

 

 I doubt that anyone in their right mind has paid real cash for gold ammo for years

 

Well WG could either see there was a problem with the 'Gold' ammo stigma thing (on the forum at least) and did it as a beneficial way of leveling the field, or they could have had a cynical thought and said 'lets do away with buying premium ammo with gold and make needy players convert gold into silver credits at an even more excruciating exchange rate'? 


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View Post250swb, on 19 May 2018 - 09:36 PM, said:

 

Essentially the rush for easy silver in FL is meant from WG's point of view to feed back into Random battles with the increased affordability of Premium ammo, especially now that Premium ammo cannot be bought with Gold. This them increases the need for even more Premium ammo spam from other players in Randoms, so completing the cycle fully to the benefit of Wargaming. The consequences of this silver avarice has made FL a 'great game' in the minds of many players but they haven't thought the consequences through and particularly their manipulation by WG. With the new patch WG have given with one hand by making premium ammo only available for silver, and then taken away by making a game mode that racks up masses of silver.

 

I'm entirely sceptical about why Wargaming removed premium ammo for gold, I suspect it's far more because it diminishes a most obvious pay-to-win accusation, or simply to sell more credit packs in the premium store, and not for any balance or fair play reasons. I'm also fully aware that the credit income in Frontline is going to make premium rounds affordable for a lot of players who couldn't afford them systematically before.

 

None of that changes that playing Frontline is very enjoyable to me, which is what makes it a great mode, not that it makes a lot of credits.



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View Post250swb, on 19 May 2018 - 09:53 PM, said:

 

Well WG could either see there was a problem with the 'Gold' ammo stigma thing (on the forum at least) and did it as a beneficial way of leveling the field, or they could have had a cynical thought and said 'lets do away with buying premium ammo with gold and make players convert gold into credits at an even more excruciating exchange rate'? 

 

Gold ammo will always be a stigma (except in the Dingers) but you are conflating this with cash for gold ammo which hasn't been an issue for 5 or more years.

 

Premium ammo is and always will be one of the half dozen whine topics endlessly repeated by obsessives.



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View PostBulldog_Drummond, on 19 May 2018 - 09:58 PM, said:

 

Gold ammo will always be a stigma (except in the Dingers) but you are conflating this with cash for gold ammo which hasn't been an issue for 5 or more years.

 

 

Well cash and pay to win will be an issue from now on because players who are determined to buy premium ammo will now have to spend even more cash if they need to convert gold to silver. Five years is a fantasy figure, the Premium tanks that WG have released in the past year have put paid to careful silver earning players as a breed.


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