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girl_trousers #1 Posted 19 May 2018 - 08:04 PM

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Hey WG what you have done to the hellcat is just shear stupid.
It can rarely get above 50km and its far off the real machine which was an extremely effective WW2 tank based on its manoeuvrability.
If its going to be so poor then dont give the slap in the face of a 72kph top speed, that its lucky to hit 20kph less.

TungstenHitman #2 Posted 19 May 2018 - 08:09 PM

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It ain't too bad though is it?

 

http://wotreplays.eu/site/4362429

 

 

http://wotreplays.eu/site/4269089#cliff-tungstenhitman-m18_hellcat

 

 

http://wotreplays.eu/site/4362602#malinovka-tungstenhitman-m18_hellcat

 

 

http://wotreplays.eu/site/4364106#fisherman_s_bay-tungstenhitman-m36_jackson



Nethraniel #3 Posted 19 May 2018 - 08:10 PM

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Still one of the strongest T6 TDs. No need to make it rediculously OP. 

girl_trousers #4 Posted 19 May 2018 - 08:19 PM

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View PostNethraniel, on 19 May 2018 - 08:10 PM, said:

Still one of the strongest T6 TDs. No need to make it rediculously OP. 

 

It was a distinctive TD that used speed, the hellcat is a boring pile of the same as all the other TDs.
Its needs to be at least be able to do its top speed and actually reverse and stuff.
It comes after the T67 and it should be its bigger brother not this yawn of a thing.
It should be more like the real tank!

 

Dorander #5 Posted 19 May 2018 - 08:28 PM

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World of Tanks is a game based on real tanks, not a tank simulator. There are many tanks that aren't like the real tank. In fact, given that tanks here come with hitpoints, seemingly arbitrary soft stats, inherent viewranges and camouflage values, it can be argued that no tanks are like the real tank.

 

Wargaming has to make a decision between realism and game balance, sometimes (their success rate aside) game balance wins.



tankqull #6 Posted 19 May 2018 - 08:35 PM

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View PostNethraniel, on 19 May 2018 - 07:10 PM, said:

Still one of the strongest T6 TDs. No need to make it rediculously OP. 

 

the jackson is better now, not as HE prone as the hellcat with an armor that actually can bounce shells(thx to overmatch), better camo and comparable effective speed thx to ground resitance values, while having a better DPM and far better gun handling stats.

 

https://tanks.gg/com...llcat?t=jackson

 

in short the hellcat nowadays is garbage...


Edited by tankqull, 19 May 2018 - 08:36 PM.


dan_dix #7 Posted 19 May 2018 - 09:11 PM

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View Posttankqull, on 19 May 2018 - 08:35 PM, said:

in short the hellcat nowadays is garbage...

 

Rubbish... The Hellcat is very good as it is. It's the quintessential stealth tank, it's meant to live by not being spotted, if you complain about lack of armor you're playing it wrong. Jackson has better camo than the Hellcat? You must be joking...



girl_trousers #8 Posted 19 May 2018 - 09:12 PM

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View PostDorander, on 19 May 2018 - 08:28 PM, said:

World of Tanks is a game based on real tanks, not a tank simulator. There are many tanks that aren't like the real tank. In fact, given that tanks here come with hitpoints, seemingly arbitrary soft stats, inherent viewranges and camouflage values, it can be argued that no tanks are like the real tank.

 

Wargaming has to make a decision between realism and game balance, sometimes (their success rate aside) game balance wins.

 

Such a WG licker, as if this game is balanced! At least they could try and give some semblance of characteristics of the real tank.
Still the same BS in the forum as hellcat sucks and is just boring needs a speed buff so you can at least shoot & skoot.
 

View Postdan_dix, on 19 May 2018 - 09:11 PM, said:

 

Rubbish... The Hellcat is very good as it is. It's the quintessential stealth tank, it's meant to live by not being spotted, if you complain about lack of armor you're playing it wrong. Jackson has better camo than the Hellcat? You must be joking...

 

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Edited by NickMustaine, 20 May 2018 - 08:14 AM.
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View Postgirl_trousers, on 19 May 2018 - 08:12 PM, said:

 

Such a WG licker, as if this game is balanced! At least they could try and give some semblance of characteristics of the real tank.
Still the same BS in the forum as hellcat sucks and is just boring needs a speed buff so you can at least shoot & skoot.

 

You should probably cry harder and spam more then, and maintain that rude attitude, because only rude people get heard by Wargaming. It'll solve a problem if you keep it up, I guarantee it.

Desyatnik_Pansy #10 Posted 19 May 2018 - 09:52 PM

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The Hellcat is fine as it is IMO. Having never played it pre-nerf, I honestly think it still ends up being pretty OP Post-nerf and can't possibly imagine how stupid it would have been to play it beforehand. I see no reason to buff it in the slightest, especially when compared to some other Tier VIs or tanks in general.

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View Postgirl_trousers, on 19 May 2018 - 07:04 PM, said:

Hey WG what you have done to the hellcat is just shear stupid.
It can rarely get above 50km and its far off the real machine which was an extremely effective WW2 tank based on its manoeuvrability.
If its going to be so poor then dont give the slap in the face of a 72kph top speed, that its lucky to hit 20kph less.

 

The Hellcat is still a very fine and powerful TD, I suggest you put on your big boy trousers instead.

Bulldog_Drummond #12 Posted 19 May 2018 - 10:18 PM

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View PostDesyatnik_Pansy, on 19 May 2018 - 08:52 PM, said:

The Hellcat is fine as it is IMO. Having never played it pre-nerf, I honestly think it still ends up being pretty OP Post-nerf and can't possibly imagine how stupid it would have been to play it beforehand. I see no reason to buff it in the slightest, especially when compared to some other Tier VIs or tanks in general.

 

A very well considered analysis if I may say so, especially given your not having played the tank.

Balc0ra #13 Posted 19 May 2018 - 11:25 PM

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View Postgirl_trousers, on 19 May 2018 - 09:41 PM, said:

 

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And yet.. they are not wrong. It's fine now and still works. It's still a strong versatile TD. The old mobility & speed with that gun and camo combo made it rather OP as it had a turret on top of it. It was more of a medium/light then a TD.

 

And mine still gets to speed just fine, it's just more depended on a good driver with a few skills vs before.



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View PostDesyatnik_Pansy, on 19 May 2018 - 09:52 PM, said:

The Hellcat is fine as it is IMO. Having never played it pre-nerf, I honestly think it still ends up being pretty OP Post-nerf and can't possibly imagine how stupid it would have been to play it beforehand. I see no reason to buff it in the slightest, especially when compared to some other Tier VIs or tanks in general.

 

Seriously you haven't even played it and you comment?
It sucks in its present form. It can still be effective to a point but its so boring when it should be one of those tanks that can shoot and scoot.
22hp/ton and its just plain stupid that its so slow and boring, it should be more mobile as its that type of tank.

Flid_Merchant #15 Posted 19 May 2018 - 11:32 PM

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I have to kind of agree as the mobility of the Hellcat was one of it's main points. However if we ware going for historical accuracy it needs to lose the 90mm.

Slyspy #16 Posted 19 May 2018 - 11:42 PM

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View Postgirl_trousers, on 19 May 2018 - 09:12 PM, said:

 

Such a WG licker, as if this game is balanced! At least they could try and give some semblance of characteristics of the real tank.
Still the same BS in the forum as hellcat sucks and is just boring needs a speed buff so you can at least shoot & skoot.

 

So you'll be using the 76mm then  to keep it real? 

girl_trousers #17 Posted 19 May 2018 - 11:42 PM

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View PostFlid_Merchant, on 19 May 2018 - 11:32 PM, said:

I have to kind of agree as the mobility of the Hellcat was one of it's main points. However if we ware going for historical accuracy it needs to lose the 90mm.

 

Yeah I wouldn't be too bothered about that but the mobility that is what that tank was about. I am not asking for accuracy just some semblance of what the tank was.
23.74 hp/t make it play so.

Kuraikage #18 Posted 19 May 2018 - 11:55 PM

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A tank that can shoot at higher tier tanks, at under 200mm with no concealment and still remain unspotted.

Yeah, no buffs required, think the only requirement is that you stop being trash.



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View Postgirl_trousers, on 19 May 2018 - 10:42 PM, said:

 

Yeah I wouldn't be too bothered about that but the mobility that is what that tank was about. I am not asking for accuracy just some semblance of what the tank was.
23.74 hp/t make it play so.

 

Come on.  As far as history goes the game is nonsense from start to finish

ypr765prco #20 Posted 20 May 2018 - 12:08 AM

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