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Poll: Ban ARTA from Frontline (42 members have cast votes)

You have to complete 250 battles in order to participate this poll.

Should arta be banned from Frontline mode? (yes)

  1. Yes (28 votes [66.67%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 66.67%

  2. I only ever play arta so my vote is null and void (14 votes [33.33%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 33.33%

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Freetoplay_KV2 #1 Posted 20 May 2018 - 07:05 PM

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Some things to consider:

 

Frontline is an active game mode that REQUIRES the capping of zones and destruction of turrets to win if you are attacking.

 

Arta is absolutely unnecessary for many reasons:

For attacking team:

1 they do not cap, it is the worst kind of vehicle to use if you want to cap zones, low hp low mobility. Using arta means that player will NOT assist in capping zones which is the entire point if you are attacker.

2 they do not damage turrets, at the endgame an arta player is at best a 3rd wheel, they offer the least value of any choice of tank.

3 they sit in a corner and clog up zones, many times at the end of the game there is a situation where one of the starting cap zones has not been captured and needs to be captured but the player limit has been reached as there are 2-3 arta in the zone busy doing nothing to help the capture for the entire game.

 

For defending team:

 

1 there is no need for arta , WG says arta is there to stop camping. But if attacking team camps they will lose, it is completely anti productive to use anti camping vehicle when none of the enemy are camping.

2 because enemy is attacking and will capture zones arta will likely spend a great deal of time running away and not being able to shoot making it a very poor value member of the team especially with low mobility arta.

3 because of arta defensive nature it is logical to run and get to the extent of the range to not die, all this means is the player spends the ENTIRE battle as the same arta, at end of battle they usually have very poor score but this is not the whole story, people can get good score without being of much actual help. Arta is never any good actual help to the objectives ie the whole point of frontline mode.

 

 

Artillery strike and bomber reserves:

 

1 same issues, they are not needed, the attacking team doesnt camp and will breakthrough defending team if they camp.

2 the current map is designed nicely to not give double bush scenarios, there is no need for anti camping mechanics.

3 all it does is offer players with little skill a way to avoid learning and developing their skill because they have a delete enemy tank button. for this reason it is very bad to have in the game.

4 artillery strikes usually get used in multiples. you go to defend or capture a zone and instead of a competitive battle you get 3 enemy all using their clicker skill so u get hit 40 times by 50 dmg arta strike which kills you. There is no game in this. There is no learning no fun.

5 The other skills to choose are far more effective , engineering smoke screen and inspire all work nicely. arta strikes mean players do not have some or all of the other actually important skills and this can become very annoying, instead of using tactical skill like deploying smoke screen people use clicker skill and this makes the game very dumbed down.

 

 

Frontlines is a very good mode, good well designed map, finally a point to capturing base, very nice dynamic gameplay, very good different zones so if play is bad you can relocate and still enjoy. (something arta never does hence clogs up zones)

 

I really enjoy frontlines, I think it is fantastic mode BUT I think arta completely ruins it, once arta is removed from this mode people will realise how much better it is to promote skilled play for all.

 

Please to discuss but please also to consider points and then make comments. thankyou

 



Dorander #2 Posted 20 May 2018 - 07:08 PM

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Didn't read, just another artywhine, three threads have been locked about this already. Go post it in the sticked artillery discussion thread please.

:arta:



Grand_Moff_Tano #3 Posted 20 May 2018 - 07:09 PM

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Biased poll? Noice 

gunslingerXXX #4 Posted 20 May 2018 - 07:11 PM

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Not playing frontline, still voted yes... obviously.

 



unhappy_bunny #5 Posted 20 May 2018 - 07:12 PM

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Stupid poll by immature poster. 



Grand_Moff_Tano #6 Posted 20 May 2018 - 07:12 PM

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View Postunhappy_bunny, on 20 May 2018 - 06:12 PM, said:

Stupid poll by immature poster. 

 

Swap those both around and it'd be more accurate.

Jigabachi #7 Posted 20 May 2018 - 07:15 PM

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Stupid poll. Didn't read.

 

edit: Most played tanks: KV-2 and Japanese heavies. Wants to ban arty. Yupp.


Edited by Jigabachi, 20 May 2018 - 07:16 PM.


Dorander #8 Posted 20 May 2018 - 07:16 PM

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View PostChipmunk_of_Vengeance, on 20 May 2018 - 06:12 PM, said:

 

Swap those both around and it'd be more accurate.

 

Immature poster by stupid poll?

Immature poll by stupid poster?

Stupid poster by immature poll?

 

I'm confused about what you were going for.



ApocalypseSquad #9 Posted 20 May 2018 - 07:28 PM

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Contemptible poll, so not worth wasting another second on.

Steffin #10 Posted 20 May 2018 - 07:30 PM

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What a [edited]poll.

Pansenmann #11 Posted 20 May 2018 - 07:34 PM

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I requested a merger of this topic with the sticky thread.

@op  I see now that you don't like arty.

I can tolerate that, but I don't agree with you at all,

because it makes things so unpredictable :)


Edited by Pansenmann, 20 May 2018 - 07:34 PM.


Yakito #12 Posted 20 May 2018 - 07:39 PM

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I'd give you an honest vote if it wasn't such a biased one with an insult within it.

jack_timber #13 Posted 20 May 2018 - 07:41 PM

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I considered this, briefly, and arrived at my decision....

No.



gunslingerXXX #14 Posted 20 May 2018 - 07:42 PM

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View PostDorander, on 20 May 2018 - 07:16 PM, said:

 

Immature poster by stupid poll?

Immature poll by stupid poster?

Stupid poster by immature poll?

 

I'm confused about what you were going for.

 

I think the second one

Search_Warrant #15 Posted 20 May 2018 - 08:16 PM

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View PostJigabachi, on 20 May 2018 - 06:15 PM, said:

Stupid poll. Didn't read.

 

edit: Most played tanks: KV-2 and Japanese heavies. Wants to ban arty. Yupp.

 

Mobile armored arty. lol

soul3ater #16 Posted 20 May 2018 - 08:26 PM

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It should be removed from FL, period.

scouse_in_the_house #17 Posted 20 May 2018 - 08:32 PM

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Definitely remove it from Frontline, this new mode shows how arty should have been done, the consumables are far better at breaking camps and are much more varied and dynamic.  Arty is an anachronism in this mode , learn the lesson and take the consumables into randoms and take arty as a class out of the game.  Wargaming you might actually see people come back to the game, I know so many that left because they were sick of arty and the stress and frustration it creates.

Dorander #18 Posted 20 May 2018 - 09:38 PM

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What's hilarious about that stupid "artillery consumables are a better form of artillery" argument is that the consumable is far more accurate, has unlimited range and ignores cover, and is as impossible to defend against as regular artillery, in fact it is even worse to defend against due to the high module and crew damage it causes.

 

I am starting to suspect you artillery haters are in fact artillery lovers, since you want to be artillery as well as whatever else you drive. Best of all, if your stupid idea actually does get implemented, this forum will instead be filled with whine-threads about the artillery consumable, with all the same arguments.

 

"Waah, I can't defend against this!"

"Waah, it does too much damage!"

"Waah, I get hit when in cover!"

"Waah, it causes camping!"

"Waah, I take damage from someone on the other side of the map!"

 

Did I forget one? Also have the usual smiley: :arta:



PhooBar #19 Posted 20 May 2018 - 09:47 PM

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When playing slow, heavy tanks, please remember to drive in straight lines and occasionally hold real still for at least 30 seconds.

 

NB4TL 



Nishi_Kinuyo #20 Posted 20 May 2018 - 09:53 PM

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View Postscouse_in_the_house, on 20 May 2018 - 08:32 PM, said:

Definitely remove it from Frontline, this new mode shows how arty should have been done, the consumables are far better at breaking camps and are much more varied and dynamic.  Arty is an anachronism in this mode , learn the lesson and take the consumables into randoms and take arty as a class out of the game.  Wargaming you might actually see people come back to the game, I know so many that left because they were sick of arty and the stress and frustration it creates.

I think someone needs to look up the definition of that word, because it doesn't make sense in this context.

An anachronism would be a cowboy wearing a wristwatch in a western film; a piece of technology or style of clothing that doesn't match the timeframe it is set in.

Artillery quite definitely fits with the timeframe of the game mode.

 

Also, wah wah arta hit me plz delet whine thread.







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