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Kirusawa #1 Posted 21 May 2018 - 07:07 PM

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Hi guys, im started this topic about the grille 15, what you guys think about the grille 15? What kind of updates could make it better a bit. I mean the grille 15 is not a bad tank has a good gun and mobility the rest is scks. I suppose the camo rate could be improved, example make it a little bit lower cuz actually this thing taller than any bush in the game and 20km/ backwards spd could help as well. The armor is craap as well but we are used to it, german vehicle. Thats my opinion, what you guys think?

Edited by Kirusawa, 21 May 2018 - 07:10 PM.


Dava_117 #2 Posted 21 May 2018 - 08:06 PM

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Accurate gun, good alpha, not the best pen in class but still good, good speed limit.

Guess that it would become a good tank if WG destroy Muraxor legacy of OP armoured monsters with no weackspots. As many other tanks I would add...


Edited by Dava_117, 21 May 2018 - 08:07 PM.


WindSplitter1 #3 Posted 21 May 2018 - 09:40 PM

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I had it. Sold it.

 

It has worse camo than the Bobject, along with no armour, useless speed that you can rarely if ever use it.

The only redeeming factor is the gun. But its platform is useless.

 

I have an crew with no less than 4 completed skills that will now rush their way to the Maus instead.



HaZardeur #4 Posted 21 May 2018 - 10:23 PM

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I would like to have e25 camo on my Grille 15 

Kirusawa #5 Posted 21 May 2018 - 10:51 PM

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They removed the wtf e100 ( i didnt had it) without any good reason if you look at the foch.. We all know the peoblems about the grille 15, but the topic goes about what could make it better but seems everyone said the camo, turning speed.

Edited by Kirusawa, 21 May 2018 - 10:52 PM.


XxKuzkina_MatxX #6 Posted 21 May 2018 - 11:14 PM

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View PostKirusawa, on 21 May 2018 - 11:51 PM, said:

They removed the wtf e100 ( i didnt had it) without any good reason if you look at the foch.. We all know the peoblems about the grille 15, but the topic goes about what could make it better but seems everyone said the camo, turning speed.

 

Pretty much everything before the nerf...gun depression, shell velocity, reverse speed and DPM. Also penetration, camo and gun handling could be better, that would make it a decent sniper in tier 10 but as usual WG is collecting data to confirm if the tank need some tuning! Meanwhile, the Grille 15 sports the lowest winrate among all tier 10 TDs with a glorious 45.62%.

 

@OP...Grille 15 is not easy to play same applies to tier 10 in general. You need to give yourself some time and practice to know more about the game and maps in lower tiers (6 or 7). There are no benefits from rushing to tier 10 aside from the frustration when meeting a more knowledgeable players on the enemy team (or even on your team!). Take your time and enjoy the game.


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signal11th #7 Posted 22 May 2018 - 08:52 AM

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I think all it really needs it a camo buff, it's mobile, decent gun, decent alpha but camo is a bit weak so pretty much you get spotted with with kleenex armor you're screwed, very glass cannon. Now grab a 268-4 and just keep pushing camo is irrelevant because the front of your tank is basically picking the opposing guys nose anyway.

firelars4 #8 Posted 22 May 2018 - 09:13 AM

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View Postsignal11th, on 22 May 2018 - 08:52 AM, said:

I think all it really needs it a camo buff, it's mobile, decent gun, decent alpha but camo is a bit weak so pretty much you get spotted with with kleenex armor you're screwed, very glass cannon. Now grab a 268-4 and just keep pushing camo is irrelevant because the front of your tank is basically picking the opposing guys nose anyway.

 

I agree with that, but adding a little more DPM would help out aswell. 2600 base dpm on a TD isn't a lot. increase it to about 2750 along with a camo buff and it should do.

HugSeal #9 Posted 22 May 2018 - 09:17 AM

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View PostKirusawa, on 21 May 2018 - 10:51 PM, said:

They removed the wtf e100 ( i didnt had it) without any good reason if you look at the foch.. We all know the peoblems about the grille 15, but the topic goes about what could make it better but seems everyone said the camo, turning speed.

 

Wild guess, a couple of % below 50?

 

The grille was insane, then got nerfed to meh/bad. They could probably give the bloom/aimtime a slight buff. Comparing the wtf to the foch is just dumb though. It's like saying that the bobjct is perfectly fine because the e3 has been in game for ages.



Dr_ownape #10 Posted 22 May 2018 - 01:56 PM

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I quite like it. At the start of it's release I didn't understand how to play it but slowly getting used to it and my average damage is starting to rise nicely.

Verbal_kint_742 #11 Posted 22 May 2018 - 02:56 PM

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Had it, hate it, sold it. Awful, awful AUFUL camo plus very trollish gun.

Full camo crew, painted, with camo net.

When on move you get spotted from 400-420 meters by rusing lights.

Things get better when stop at the back of a bush with camo net active.

Barrel length sometimes creates a bug that u get spoted even at the back of a bush. Still didnt fix it.



crnakoza #12 Posted 22 May 2018 - 03:19 PM

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When first introduced Grille raised quite some eyebrows due to it's mobility, and then it got nerfed. However, in light of perfectly balanced tanks such as Object 268.4 validity of Grille's nerf comes into question.

 

Personally, I don't think any kind of a (reasonable) buff can help Grille, it's not a bad vehicle per se, it just doesn't quite fit into current meta.


Edited by crnakoza, 22 May 2018 - 03:19 PM.


Dr_Oolen #13 Posted 22 May 2018 - 04:11 PM

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View Postcrnakoza, on 22 May 2018 - 03:19 PM, said:

When first introduced Grille raised quite some eyebrows due to it's mobility, and then it got nerfed. However, in light of perfectly balanced tanks such as Object 268.4 validity of Grille's nerf comes into question.

 

Personally, I don't think any kind of a (reasonable) buff can help Grille, it's not a bad vehicle per se, it just doesn't quite fit into current meta.

 

268v4 is literally a grille, except with the best armor in the game as opposed to the worst armor in the game. Makes perfect sense in terms of balancing :) And then it has worse accuracy, but given how the tank plays its accuracy is in practice better than that of grille.

 

The tank is simply too useless for the current meta as you say. I mean, 268v4 has better gun handling while at the same time not needing any gun handling as it can just sit in front of 5 tanks and take 10 seconds to aim if it wanted to.

 

WG is balancing tanks in exactly the wrong way. They give tanks with good enough armor so they can take their time to aim insanely good gun handling while they give tanks with 0 armor the worst gun handling on their tiers. It should be exactly the opposite. If you have the armor you can afford to take 10 seconds to aim and during 10 seconds you will get penned maybe twice (in case of balancedv4 0 times). If you have no armor you have to be able to shoot within 2 seconds of stopping and in those 2 seconds you still get hit and penned once. But in this game tanks with 0 armor have to sit still for 10s after stopping to actually hit stuff while taip 5s, supercancerors or ebolav4s can just poke for a second, ez snapshot and get back behind cover (not like those tanks require cover not to get damaged...).


Edited by Dr_Oolen, 22 May 2018 - 04:12 PM.


Rati_Festa #14 Posted 22 May 2018 - 04:51 PM

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The gun is awful on that thing, you get the rhm which is great then the wt which is ok/good and then that abomination. One of the most disappointing t10s I own.

It would be a big step forward if it had a fully rotating gun like its predecessor.

JCD3nton #15 Posted 22 May 2018 - 08:39 PM

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A few months ago WG said they were already working on Grille, and replacing it with another tank was one of the options.






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