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Poll: PMM tank options (159 members have cast votes)

You have to complete 250 battles in order to participate this poll.

Do you agree with WG recent decision? do you want to pay 2000 gold to exchange your tank

  1. I agree with WG, its only 2000 gold. (15 votes [9.43%])

    Percentage of vote: 9.43%

  2. i don't agree with WG, there has to be another solution. (95 votes [59.75%])

    Percentage of vote: 59.75%

  3. i don't agree with WG, i want my tank refunded in gold. (49 votes [30.82%])

    Percentage of vote: 30.82%

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KennyMonstah #1 Posted 21 May 2018 - 09:08 PM

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the poll explains it all. 

 

more info : https://worldoftanks...ums-perfection/

 

wargaming will never refund a tank with money (thats why it isn't in the poll).

also i am aware of the max 2000 gold, some tanks will go for less

 


Edited by KennyMonstah, 21 May 2018 - 11:22 PM.


_b_ #2 Posted 21 May 2018 - 09:13 PM

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Got all receipts from my purchases from WG, so I'll check ... if I bought anything with limited MM for real money, I want the option of an refund!! Plain and simple!

 

Don't want gold, got enough already .. don't want to exchange for a tank .. since I most likely got all available already .. Just plain old $$$ back into bankaccount!

 

I might want to swap old into the new ... but if not I want my money back!!

 

Considering any non-pref mm premium at tier 8 will meet type5's and bobjects ... all in all most likely WG can just sod off with their 'swap' thing and just offer me back my money! If I bought it for the option to not see +2 ... that is what I paid for.



Nethraniel #3 Posted 21 May 2018 - 09:20 PM

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Isn't that poll slightly misleading? It is not stated for now that the exchange will cost 2000 gold. The news only say not more than 2000 gold. And in another line small amount. So, I would wait with my opinion. 

Strappster #4 Posted 21 May 2018 - 09:24 PM

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View PostNethraniel, on 21 May 2018 - 08:20 PM, said:

Isn't that poll slightly misleading? It is not stated for now that the exchange will cost 2000 gold. The news only say not more than 2000 gold. And in another line small amount. So, I would wait with my opinion. 

 

This. I suspect it'll be a range from something like 100 gold for a Panther 8,8 up to 2k for something worthwhile. I'm more annoyed that PMM tanks are already among the most expensive premium tanks you can buy but they expect players to pay more gold to change it.

Private_Pearts #5 Posted 21 May 2018 - 09:44 PM

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I would like the opportunity to get my money back. Why should I spend more money for gold just to hand it back to WG? It's like refunding them for refunding me. Win win for WG.

 

That said though I am interested to see what they will do to my IS6B, Type 59 and any other PMM pixel tanks I may have. If they become competitive I might like to keep them.


Edited by Private_Pearts, 21 May 2018 - 09:45 PM.


Strappster #6 Posted 21 May 2018 - 09:57 PM

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View PostPrivate_Pearts, on 21 May 2018 - 08:44 PM, said:

That said though I am interested to see what they will do to my IS6B, Type 59 and any other PMM pixel tanks I may have. If they become competitive I might like to keep them.

 

Same here, I'm happy to wait and see what's offered. My issue with the whole scheme really comes down to not having the option to sell a tank I don't want for gold.



arthurwellsley #7 Posted 21 May 2018 - 09:58 PM

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The poll is wrong.

 

No option for I paid cash refund me my cash or suffer the consequences.



Homer_J #8 Posted 21 May 2018 - 09:59 PM

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View PostKennyMonstah, on 21 May 2018 - 09:08 PM, said:

the poll explains it all. 

 

 

 

No it doesn't.

 

You don't even know what you are complaining about yet.

 

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The cost of this kind of exchange will not exceed 2000 Gold.

 

So it could be a lot less, it could even be free.



Kirusawa #9 Posted 21 May 2018 - 10:14 PM

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Good job wg, disguisting. I have actually 4 of them tier limit vehicles. One of them you can not buy anymore. So im curious whats gonna happen with the money what i paid for them...

Nishi_Kinuyo #10 Posted 21 May 2018 - 10:51 PM

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View PostStrappster, on 21 May 2018 - 09:24 PM, said:

 

This. I suspect it'll be a range from something like 100 gold for a Panther 8,8 up to 2k for something worthwhile. I'm more annoyed that PMM tanks are already among the most expensive premium tanks you can buy but they expect players to pay more gold to change it.

Why would they change it though?

I mean, don't they get buffed to a level where they don't need PMM anymore?



Strappster #11 Posted 21 May 2018 - 10:55 PM

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View PostNishi_Kinuyo, on 21 May 2018 - 09:51 PM, said:

Why would they change it though?

I mean, don't they get buffed to a level where they don't need PMM anymore?

 

How much they're buffed is immaterial.

Tankyouverymuch2 #12 Posted 21 May 2018 - 11:13 PM

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I wanna know what'll happen with my WZ-111... It's already a very capable tank in my hands, (4 skill crew) even with only 175 pen. The sheer speed of the thing is what makes it great for getting into position quickly and setting up for a brawl. Honestly all it needs for meeting tier 10 is buffed pen and aimtime, I can live with the inaccuracy, I don't snipe often for obvious reasons.

 

Might also wanna buff ammorack durability. :hiding: AMX 13 57 damages my ammo rack with its 2nd shot even while I have safe stowage. Bruh.



ares354 #13 Posted 21 May 2018 - 11:20 PM

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View PostTankyouverymuch2, on 21 May 2018 - 11:13 PM, said:

I wanna know what'll happen with my WZ-111... It's already a very capable tank in my hands, (4 skill crew) even with only 175 pen. The sheer speed of the thing is what makes it great for getting into position quickly and setting up for a brawl. Honestly all it needs for meeting tier 10 is buffed pen and aimtime, I can live with the inaccuracy, I don't snipe often for obvious reasons.

 

Might also wanna buff ammorack durability. :hiding: AMX 13 57 damages my ammo rack with its 2nd shot even while I have safe stowage. Bruh.

 

Show me battle where you carry tier 9 game with AP ammo only. VS tanks who have any kind of armor. Then we will agree 175 AP pen is ok. 

Because for me its not.


You love pref mm and 175 pen, I have best solution for both of us. WG rework WZ 111 for +2 mm, and give us two options; I take new WZ 111 you stick with old one. But that can be done once, and you and I cant change  decision. Fixed. 

Francesco_Totti_ #14 Posted 21 May 2018 - 11:21 PM

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I want to keep my tanks in their current state(I won't refuse a penetration buff or so but the PMM must stay) or get a real money refund. Gold is increasingly worthless in the game since you can't get any of the interesting premiums for it.

ares354 #15 Posted 21 May 2018 - 11:29 PM

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View PostFrancesco_Totti_, on 21 May 2018 - 11:21 PM, said:

I want to keep my tanks in their current state(I won't refuse a penetration buff or so but the PMM must stay) or get a real money refund. Gold is increasingly worthless in the game since you can't get any of the interesting premiums for it.

 

Yea, and what more you wonna. Pref mm with 218 pen ? 330 alpha and that DPM...

You wont lose tank. 

You love pref mm, WG should just give us choice. Take your KV 5 with pref mm, but not all wonna that tank anymore. 

Tankyouverymuch2 #16 Posted 21 May 2018 - 11:51 PM

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View Postares354, on 21 May 2018 - 11:20 PM, said:

 

Show me battle where you carry tier 9 game with AP ammo only. VS tanks who have any kind of armor. Then we will agree 175 AP pen is ok. 

Because for me its not.

You love pref mm and 175 pen, I have best solution for both of us. WG rework WZ 111 for +2 mm, and give us two options; I take new WZ 111 you stick with old one. But that can be done once, and you and I cant change  decision. Fixed. 

 

Edgy much?...

 

When did I say I can carry tier 9 with AP? It's got 250 HEAT pen for a reason, I carry 5 rounds of it for such cases. Firing them all won't hurt my profits, especially if I pen them all, and that's roughly 1600 damage dealt to higher tier tanks...but I guess you don't care about HEAT.

 

175 pen hard to pen with? If there's lots of heavily armored heavy tanks on the enemy team, ones without weakspots you can pen, just go with the mediums! The WZ-111 is fast enough to keep up with most meds.

 

I don't like your solution...



ares354 #17 Posted 22 May 2018 - 12:12 AM

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View PostTankyouverymuch2, on 21 May 2018 - 11:51 PM, said:

 

Edgy much?...

 

When did I say I can carry tier 9 with AP? It's got 250 HEAT pen for a reason, I carry 5 rounds of it for such cases. Firing them all won't hurt my profits, especially if I pen them all, and that's roughly 1600 damage dealt to higher tier tanks...but I guess you don't care about HEAT.

 

175 pen hard to pen with? If there's lots of heavily armored heavy tanks on the enemy team, ones without weakspots you can pen, just go with the mediums! The WZ-111 is fast enough to keep up with most meds.

 

I don't like your solution...

 

5600 credits per shoot. Dont hurt income at all. 

I dont care about heat because I use premium tank to earn credits with no premium acc. And if you fire all 5 heat even if I pen, u will lose credits. -28 k credits. And not all shoot will pen or hit where you aim with that potato gun. 

You dont like my solution, I dont like you cry and fascination with Pref mm that dont work anymore. 

My solution is fair. I give you a choice. If because of your cry, WG will step down from thos changes, you will hurt people who dont like those tanks anymore. 

BTW GL with 175 Ap pen vs T54 Mod 1, or T54s 

Edited by ares354, 22 May 2018 - 12:12 AM.


Homer_J #18 Posted 22 May 2018 - 08:40 AM

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View PostFrancesco_Totti_, on 21 May 2018 - 11:21 PM, said:

I want to keep my tanks in their current state(I won't refuse a penetration buff or so but the PMM must stay) or get a real money refund. Gold is increasingly worthless in the game since you can't get any of the interesting premiums for it.

 

Another one that's hard of reading.

 

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an exclusive list of tanks not available in the common trade-in.

 

Preferential mm should never have happened,  I for one am glad WG are at last trying to do something about it.  There might be a little pain but it will be worth it if only because I then don't need to explain to people how platooning the JT88 with a Tiger II is a bad idea.

 

View PostKennyMonstah, on 21 May 2018 - 09:08 PM, said:

 

also i am aware of the max 2000 gold, some tanks will go for less

 

 

Can you fix your poll then?  Or is it intentionally biased?
 

Boogeyman44 #19 Posted 22 May 2018 - 08:52 AM

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I'll wait to see what changes theg make to pmm tanks I own before I pas judgement.

 

So far, I am not sure the buffs to the kv-5 are enough. Considering pmm tanks see tier 6 only very rarely, I think it would be decent to buff the premium rounds some more. You won't be firing apcr at lower tiers anyway. 

 

240 something that it has now is not enough for jap heavy "weakspots" and other special tanks you see at tier 9 and 10.

 

Also, frontal armor of around 200 with loads of unangled parts is nothing special against high tiers.

 

My concern is that i have 3 pmm tanks at tier 8 and some at lower tiers. If I decide to trade them in, it might need another serios gold buy and I'm not sure i want to do it.



Suurpolskija #20 Posted 22 May 2018 - 09:05 AM

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My only pref MM tanks are tier5 and tbh if they get a meaningful buff in the penetration values of their guns, I'll be more than happy to face tier VII with them.





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