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MrTagen #1 Posted 23 May 2018 - 12:57 AM

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i want to know why object 704 under-powered compared to turreted tank destroyer like t30 for example in a turreted tank you have better accuracy , armor, turreted ,gun depression and view range. same damage and almost same penetration, health and speed

 

i think object 704 is blind as a bat the lowest view range at its tier so at least accuracy buff will be good



hasnainrakha57 #2 Posted 23 May 2018 - 01:07 AM

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Cry about 704? Get 268 and then see your nightmare come true!


Edited by hasnainrakha57, 23 May 2018 - 01:08 AM.


samuelx43a #3 Posted 23 May 2018 - 01:08 AM

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while the obj 704 has been not that present in all these years, its still a force to be reockend with and that penetration difference can be quite noticable in some ocasions. while the T30 does have the ret advantage, it does not have the very good camo values of the 704

DeBanus #4 Posted 23 May 2018 - 05:23 AM

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View Posthasnainrakha57, on 23 May 2018 - 12:07 AM, said:

Cry about 704? Get 268 and then see your nightmare come true!

 

100% correct.

 

I love/loved my 704, played 3 games in the 268 and sold it again because it's utter *edited*


Edited by NickMustaine, 23 May 2018 - 03:16 PM.
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Sfinski #5 Posted 23 May 2018 - 05:53 AM

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Turrets are important, that is why E4 is one of the best t10 TDs. I'd choose T30 99 times out of a 100.

Enforcer1975 #6 Posted 23 May 2018 - 09:05 AM

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Funny how players always forget to mention better traverse, better ground resistance and better dpm along the way...the armor also works better.

Igor_BL #7 Posted 23 May 2018 - 09:45 AM

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704 armor is working better?

 

then you must be using t30 wrong.

 

yep, DPM is big difference... but t30 is way better tank. it has turret, in first place, and enough gun depression to ruin someones day and go back in cover.

 

t30>>704



Simeon85 #8 Posted 23 May 2018 - 10:03 AM

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704 armour on average works slightly better than T30 armour, 704 bounces around 32% of shots and T30 around 27%.

 

I'd prefer the T30 all day over the 704, but it's not like the 704 doesn;t have a load of advantages over a T30, like DPM, mobility, penetration and gun handling. 



Balc0ra #9 Posted 23 May 2018 - 10:14 AM

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One is usually on the HT line with a turret using the ridge line, the other is usually found sitting on the 2nd line or camping base. If the 704 had 0.30 dispersion and 420m view range with that gun... well, we have been there before, years before you joined. And TD's got a view range and camo nerf awhile back. As back then there were more topics raging about base campers with more view range and camo then their lights trying to spot them. Tier X TD's have better dispersion vs caliper. But on tier 8 and 9 etc... I get why they have worse.

 

View PostDeBanus, on 23 May 2018 - 05:23 AM, said:

 

100% correct.

 

I love/loved my 704, played 3 games in the 268 and sold it again because it's utter sh*t

 

 Well 268 is not a support sniper anyway. I actually liked mine on tier 9 bullying the HT lines. I hate it sitting behind the rest farming damage. Then it's 100% useless with that dispersion.


Edited by Balc0ra, 23 May 2018 - 10:15 AM.


Igor_BL #10 Posted 23 May 2018 - 10:16 AM

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i would rather play 704 at tier10, then 268.


 



Dava_117 #11 Posted 23 May 2018 - 10:53 AM

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While I'm on losing streack in it, 704 still a really good TD that I like to play. It just need support that looks like it's hard to get in the last weeks... :sceptic:

T30 has a turret advantage and in hulldown can be quite strong, but on the right spot, 704 can be dangerous too. 

And for right spot I mean on the first line, supporting HTs with the good pen-alpha combo or directly contributing to the push. The mantlet is really strong, with 320+ mm of effective armour, so trying to abuse of this may help a lot.

For T30 idk, still at T28proto, but looks a good tank on paper. Will check as soon as I get it. :)


Edited by Dava_117, 23 May 2018 - 10:54 AM.


etody77 #12 Posted 23 May 2018 - 11:33 AM

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played obj, just started to play t30

obj is far better, with better camo, better armour better accuracy

no turret but better mobility

 



Igor_BL #13 Posted 23 May 2018 - 11:37 AM

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why do you need  camo on t30? seriously.

 

do you snipe with that tank?


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Warzey #14 Posted 23 May 2018 - 11:42 AM

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I don't know, Obj 704 and T30 are very different tanks, it's really hard to directly compare them. T30 is really horrible at sniping the same way 704 is horrible at close range combat. 

 



etody77 #15 Posted 23 May 2018 - 12:31 PM

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t-30 can be better compared with .. nothing, maybe T34, and obj with jdgtiger

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Ubervold #16 Posted 23 May 2018 - 12:45 PM

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My problem with T30 is that I play it to much like a hull down heavy, like the T34 before it was powercrept. When I get to close to the enemy that long reload and fragile hull armor is not a game winner.

I play the 704 like a turretless TD with decent camo, and it seems to work a lot better.

 

Give me a couple of hundred games and I´ll probably figure out the T30 as well.



PoIestar #17 Posted 23 May 2018 - 12:47 PM

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T30 more accurate and more pen than 704? In what World of Tanks?

 

In mine, the 704 has fine accuracy while the T30 can't hit a barn from the inside sometimes. The 704 has 286 pen which is 10 more than the T30, and the T30 can either feel like 350 mm or 150 mm. Literally, the T30 sacrifices everything for that turret, except damage, arguably pen and some turret armor. That while the 704 is a very potent TD, great gun, good mobile platform with in the right situation even armor, only drawback is a slight lack of flexibility because it hasn't got a turret.

 

OP, predictable as always (not looking into stats here but judging by his number of battles): just unlocked the 704 as his first tier 9 and wonders why the neighbour's grass is greener. Let me tell you: I love the T30, but it's a hard one to love because of its unreliability. If you grinded the 704 because you loved the ISU that much, it's way better for you.



Solstad1069 #18 Posted 23 May 2018 - 03:16 PM

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Two completly different tanks in playstyle, but overall i say they are very well balanced like most tier 9 tanks are.

BicycleOfDeath #19 Posted 23 May 2018 - 03:29 PM

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View PostUbervold, on 23 May 2018 - 12:45 PM, said:

My problem with T30 is that I play it to much like a hull down heavy, like the T34 before it was powercrept. When I get to close to the enemy that long reload and fragile hull armor is not a game winner.

I play the 704 like a turretless TD with decent camo, and it seems to work a lot better.

 

Give me a couple of hundred games and I´ll probably figure out the T30 as well.

 

But it's supposed to be played as a hull down heavy. That's the whole thing about it. Just be in an aggressive place where nobody can shoot your hull :)

Ubervold #20 Posted 23 May 2018 - 03:42 PM

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View PostBicycleOfDeath, on 23 May 2018 - 03:29 PM, said:

 

But it's supposed to be played as a hull down heavy. That's the whole thing about it. Just be in an aggressive place where nobody can shoot your hull :)

 

Yes, but I think I am to aggressive, running away from my support in order to reach that awesome hull down position. Realizing to late that I will not get any support and to slow to be able to make a tactical withdrawal in time... hiding is impossible as we all know.





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