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vuque #1 Posted 23 May 2018 - 06:36 PM

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Please share your feedback regarding the Object 268 v4 balance changes on this topic.

 

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Envoy_MT #2 Posted 23 May 2018 - 07:14 PM

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Nerf hardcore :) especially the stupid bouncer armour.

Ley1 #3 Posted 23 May 2018 - 08:43 PM

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So, why this tank stil exists in game?  I`m not gonna repeat , but ALL the players hate it. This was a GIANT mistake by WG, and that mistake needs to dissapear.FAST.

SpartA_1ah1 #4 Posted 23 May 2018 - 10:38 PM

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WG what are you waiting for

this tank is OP no mater what you say WG

and they still testing WTF


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seppc76 #5 Posted 24 May 2018 - 12:01 AM

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The currenct changes are not going far enough (at least thats what i think, theres no chance to test it as you know...). You still have a Grille Speed with armor (bit worse Gunhandling, sure, but thats not that big difference in the current Maps with many corridors as you know). Make it as maneuverable as a JagdE or E3 or Nerf Armor to a Med like Level - both would balance it to a normal level.

 

Sad that after so many years of balancing experience such things still happen...



fighting_falcon93 #6 Posted 24 May 2018 - 10:41 AM

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First you threw out Obj.263 from tier 10, and gave us this extremely powerful new TD.

Now you nerf it to the ground and we're back on square 1, an unpopular branch that most people will avoid.

 

What is your point in all this WG? Is there any point in looking at tier 10 when you decide what branch you want to grind, because by the time one get there, you will have changed that branch anyway. All this just creates frustration and make players grow tired of your game. Yes, you read that correctly. Your changes are actively making players upset and tired of your own game.

 

What was the point in swapping the Obj.263 to tier 9 if you will now end up with another tank on tier 10 that is just as weak and unpopular? Can't you just bring back the old Obj.263 to tier 10 and give it a few buffs?

 

Regarding the nerfs. I'm not surprised. It's always the TDs that get to taste the nerf-hammer first. We got Grille, players complained how OP it was and booom it got nerfed. We got Obj.268v4, players complained how OP it was and booom it got nerfed. Meanwhile, Obj.430U and Obj.907 sits untouched, fully loaded with premium ammo and food, and frontally wrecks anything they meet. But no nerfs to be seen there. Ofc not, they're not TDs. 


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Sir obj 907 and 430u is not OP! Front armor you can pen easy.And set on fire the tank :trollface: And the 430u gun,is just a normal gun.

The 907 is more special, but that tank is a rare cw reword tank,and it needs to be more then the normal tanks in the tech tree.

 

Obj 268v4 is op if you dont now how to pen it.Front lower plate,and side lower plate next to the tracks like the e3.You can pen it easy.

 

Next spot to the lights on the corners,plus engine fire:trollface: Next to the gun right side as you lock to it. And the side is very weak.So is this tank op or just the ppl say it is super OP?

After this nerf it il be a normal tank.



PauI #8 Posted 25 May 2018 - 04:09 PM

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Still to fast backwards.....15 would be decent and 45 foward

Weak_man #9 Posted 25 May 2018 - 04:54 PM

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Make the middle plate more easy penetrable, at least for guns with 260 pen, The lower - lower plate no chance to hit if is moving.

Is speed is insane, many mediums look trash. I have seen ramming > 1000 dmg from this tank.

Traverse speed is also to big and can be flanked hard.

Many games i had in this week were destroyed by 268.4.

Badger have also good armor, good dpm but is situational.

268.4 should become a situational tank, not killing all enemy team every time, every map.

 

 

 


Edited by Weak_man, 25 May 2018 - 04:57 PM.


Weak_man #10 Posted 25 May 2018 - 04:56 PM

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Make a pool where people can vote to be nerfed or not because i see that are several players that feels good in 268.4 facing pta-s and tier 8.

Weak_man #11 Posted 25 May 2018 - 04:59 PM

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View Postfighting_falcon93, on 24 May 2018 - 11:41 AM, said:

First you threw out Obj.263 from tier 10, and gave us this extremely powerful new TD.

Now you nerf it to the ground and we're back on square 1, an unpopular branch that most people will avoid.

 

What is your point in all this WG? Is there any point in looking at tier 10 when you decide what branch you want to grind, because by the time one get there, you will have changed that branch anyway. All this just creates frustration and make players grow tired of your game. Yes, you read that correctly. Your changes are actively making players upset and tired of your own game.

 

What was the point in swapping the Obj.263 to tier 9 if you will now end up with another tank on tier 10 that is just as weak and unpopular? Can't you just bring back the old Obj.263 to tier 10 and give it a few buffs?

 

Regarding the nerfs. I'm not surprised. It's always the TDs that get to taste the nerf-hammer first. We got Grille, players complained how OP it was and booom it got nerfed. We got Obj.268v4, players complained how OP it was and booom it got nerfed. Meanwhile, Obj.430U and Obj.907 sits untouched, fully loaded with premium ammo and food, and frontally wrecks anything they meet. But no nerfs to be seen there. Ofc not, they're not TDs. 

Yes, 430U is also op but compared to 268.4 is a toy.

907 is op but is so rare that i don't care.



fighting_falcon93 #12 Posted 25 May 2018 - 05:53 PM

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View PostWeak_man, on 25 May 2018 - 04:59 PM, said:

Yes, 430U is also op but compared to 268.4 is a toy.

 

Not really. I faced a lot of 268v4's in ranked battles and I know that my T-62A has about 50% chance to pen them in the cupola with standard ammo. If they yolo me atleast I have a chance to permatrack them and go behind them. Now tell me, what can I do against a hulldown 430U or 907 that's spamming skill ammo? Or even worse, one that yoloes me and starts facehugging? Nothing, it's game over.

 

View PostWeak_man, on 25 May 2018 - 04:59 PM, said:

907 is op but is so rare that i don't care.

 

Try to play ranked battles in the next season. There they're swarming, combined with the tryhards that needs to extend their skill by spamming premium ammo and premium consumables so that they lose millions of credits in just a few hours. One would expect that these skilled players would be able to reach league 1 without all these wasted credits if an average player like me managed to do it.



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View Postfighting_falcon93, on 25 May 2018 - 06:53 PM, said:

 

Not really. I faced a lot of 268v4's in ranked battles and I know that my T-62A has about 50% chance to pen them in the cupola with standard ammo. If they yolo me atleast I have a chance to permatrack them and go behind them. Now tell me, what can I do against a hulldown 430U or 907 that's spamming skill ammo? Or even worse, one that yoloes me and starts facehugging? Nothing, it's game over.

 

 

Try to play ranked battles in the next season. There they're swarming, combined with the tryhards that needs to extend their skill by spamming premium ammo and premium consumables so that they lose millions of credits in just a few hours. One would expect that these skilled players would be able to reach league 1 without all these wasted credits if an average player like me managed to do it.

 

Yes, 430 U make 62A and 140 kids toys

Amun_RA #14 Posted 25 May 2018 - 07:13 PM

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I just hope that you won't nerf Obj 268 v4 too much and becomes unplayable like you have already done to many other tanks in the past. 

 

I hope it will retain its play style, that is to have good frontal armor and be played like lower tier tanks in its branch - like SU-100M1. I have really enjoyed that tank and this kind of play style. It is something new in WOT. 

 

Please don't ruin this tank. It certainly needs speed nerf but be careful with other nerfs or it will become unplayable. 



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You do not really hit one. So is 268 version 4 not the tank of the month? Did not you encourage the players to make that line?

Is WOT now run by mentally retarded people?

Why change the features of the tank, now that many players are making this tree? Really every day you have new news, a new irritation.
Stop changing the tanks constantly, get the startup service done right.

If I knew the change to 268 V4 I would not follow this line of the tree.

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For me it is the question of trust.

 

Leveling one tank to tier 8 or 9 takes time. It is a time investment. Even if you are converting experience from premium tanks paying real money, as I do, it takes significant amount of time to "farm" this experience. I invested time into this branch because I like that particular play style, it was unique. And, it got nerfed.

 

Why do you release tanks and nerf them later? This is a sneaky way to earn money on experience conversions? Well, just sell every tank for $ and don't play with trust of your customers.

 

TVP 50 was considered to be OP for a very long time period - no nerfs. British Super Con. - OP - no nerfs. This damn Japanese types - OP - no nerfs, so I decided that finally, wargaming started to think before do and I can invest time into 268/4. And it getting nerf to the ground.

 

You see, business to customer relationships are important, and your relationships with me are screwed. I considering to leave the game because of trust issues.



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View Postp_bz, on 25 May 2018 - 06:41 PM, said:

For me it is the question of trust.

 

Leveling one tank to tier 8 or 9 takes time. It is a time investment. Even if you are converting experience from premium tanks paying real money, as I do, it takes significant amount of time to "farm" this experience. I invested time into this branch because I like that particular play style, it was unique. And, it got nerfed.

 

Why do you release tanks and nerf them later? This is a sneaky way to earn money on experience conversions? Well, just sell every tank for $ and don't play with trust of your customers.

 

TVP 50 was considered to be OP for a very long time period - no nerfs. British Super Con. - OP - no nerfs. This damn Japanese types - OP - no nerfs, so I decided that finally, wargaming started to think before do and I can invest time into 268/4. And it getting nerf to the ground.

 

You see, business to customer relationships are important, and your relationships with me are screwed. I considering to leave the game because of trust issues.

I am most amused by your cry for "investing " in a op/broken tank. It is a good time now to "invest" in a tank not used to club equal tier opponents  :))))

Amazing players this days



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View PostAmun_RA, on 25 May 2018 - 07:13 PM, said:

I just hope that you won't nerf Obj 268 v4 too much and becomes unplayable like you have already done to many other tanks in the past. 

 

I hope it will retain its play style, that is to have good frontal armor and be played like lower tier tanks in its branch - like SU-100M1. I have really enjoyed that tank and this kind of play style. It is something new in WOT. 

 

Please don't ruin this tank. It certainly needs speed nerf but be careful with other nerfs or it will become unplayable. 

 

As Krankenwagen f.e.

 



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View Postp_bz, on 25 May 2018 - 07:41 PM, said:

For me it is the question of trust.

 

Leveling one tank to tier 8 or 9 takes time.

 

I completely agree. Sadly WG doesn't care. In their view, you're just a pile of money that they try to milk, and they havn't realised yet that we as players actually have feelings and need to grind our tanks. How could they know, when they want to test something they go into their test account with 100'000'000 free xp.

 

View Postp_bz, on 25 May 2018 - 07:41 PM, said:

TVP 50 was considered to be OP for a very long time period - no nerfs. British Super Con. - OP - no nerfs. This damn Japanese types - OP - no nerfs, so I decided that finally, wargaming started to think before do and I can invest time into 268/4. And it getting nerf to the ground.

 

It's because it's a TD. If you look closely at this community, it works like this:

 

Medium tanks:

Obj.907: "It's OP!".

Obj.430U: "It's OP!".

 

Tank destroyers:

Obj.268v4: "IT'S OP OMG FFS NERF NOW I CAN'T PLAY GAME NEEERF NOOOW!!!11!1!!!1§§§§§!"

 

View PostPauI, on 25 May 2018 - 08:08 PM, said:

I am most amused by your cry for "investing " in a op/broken tank.

 

Is it his own fault for working on a tier 10 that he wants? Maybe we should stop looking at what tanks we want and first go to some webpage with statistics to check if it's okay to grind that branch? Is that what you're trying to say?

 

No, the only one to blame here is WG. They mix tanks in branches as if it was some kind of smoothie. That's typical WG behaviour, "oh so Ivan grinded a tier 10 for 3 months?" -> "how terrible, now he can ---- off to another branch and pay us some more money".


Edited by fighting_falcon93, 25 May 2018 - 08:41 PM.


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About time as this thing needs a good nerf





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