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undutchable80 #1 Posted 24 May 2018 - 10:52 AM

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"Therefore, every tanker will be able to exchange a particular machine through the special trade-in option for an exclusive list of tanks not available in the common trade-in."

Source: https://worldoftanks.eu/en/news/general-news/preferential-premiums-perfection/

 

 

No official WG statement yet regarding which tanks make the list. But lets see if we can assemble the tier 8 list ourselves; which do you think / hope will make it? What do YOU define as a "rarely sold" tank that is "not available in the common trade in"?


 (For the belowmentioned list I compared the WoT wiki list of premium tanks against the tanks available in the regular premium store, since those generally are the only ones available whenever there has been a trade-in event. However, I didnt check each one if they have PMM status themselves / are CW tanks etc, so feel free to add / comment).


Tier 8s:

- ISU130 (WG staff limited tank)

- IS-5 (Obj.730) (Clan Wars tank)

- KV-4 Kreslaviskiy (Clan Wars tank)

- Obj.252U (Defender)

- STG (Guard)

- Kirovets-1 (not yet released)

- T25 Pilot Number 1

- Chrysler K

- T26E5 (Patriot)

- Chieftain/T95 (Reward tank)

- Centurion Mk.5/1 RAAC (not yet released)

- Caernarvon Action X (not yet released)

- Kanonenjagdpanzer

- Skorpion G (maybe even the unskinned version)

- leKpz M 41 90mm (Blackdog)

- VK 168.01 (Mauerbrecher)

- Aufklarungspanzer V (not yet released)

- FCM 50t

- Somua SM

- ELC EVEN 90

- AMX M4 mle.49 (Liberte)

- Primo Victoria (maybe even the unskinned variant; Strv.81?)

- Czolg T wz 51 (not yet released)

 

EDIT:

- Nameless

- Edelweiss

- various "Black Editions"
- IS-3A

- Lorraine 40t

- Progetto M35 Mod 46

- T-44-100

- AMX CDA


 


Edited by undutchable80, 24 May 2018 - 11:56 AM.


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Chieftain T95 was a reward tank although I strongly argue against using the word "reward" for it.

HonoredStone #3 Posted 24 May 2018 - 11:01 AM

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And you will never get the isu 130. My brother has one out of 30 on the EU server.

PrinzPilsje #4 Posted 24 May 2018 - 11:02 AM

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Upgrade your KV5 to Mauerbrecher ^^

LittleLara #5 Posted 24 May 2018 - 11:03 AM

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I think the list will look like: (out of the tanks you listed)

- Obj.252U (Defender)

- STG (Guard)

- Chrysler K
- T26E5 (Patriot)

- Skorpion G

- AMX M4 mle.49 (Liberte)

 

T26E5, skorp G and liberte are not that rarely sold, but will probably be in the list anyway.


Edited by firelars4, 24 May 2018 - 11:04 AM.


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View Postsignal11th, on 24 May 2018 - 10:54 AM, said:

Chieftain T95 was a reward tank although I strongly argue against using the word "reward" for it.

 

View PostHonoredStone, on 24 May 2018 - 11:01 AM, said:

And you will never get the isu 130. My brother has one out of 30 on the EU server.

 

So both are "rarely sold" and "not available in the common trade in", correct? :trollface:

signal11th #7 Posted 24 May 2018 - 11:11 AM

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View Postundutchable80, on 24 May 2018 - 10:06 AM, said:

 

 

So both are "rarely sold" and "not available in the common trade in", correct? :trollface:

 

C/T95 has never been sold in the shop, it's been sold by people that got it in the campaign cuz it's fecking useless.

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View Postfirelars4, on 24 May 2018 - 11:03 AM, said:

I think the list will look like: (out of the tanks you listed)

- Obj.252U (Defender)

- STG (Guard)

- Chrysler K
- T26E5 (Patriot)

- Skorpion G

- AMX M4 mle.49 (Liberte)

 

T26E5, skorp G and liberte are not that rarely sold, but will probably be in the list anyway.

 

I think you can drop the Skorpion G and the guard from that, the guard is not really a good tank, hardly any armour, gun is ok, but I made the mistake of buying it, I would advise against it.

 

i don't quite understand why they have tanks in their files like the Kirovets 1 yet do not release them, or for that matter the Cearnarvon AX, they know full damn well these are the tanks we want, as for that overhyped tank, we also know it will not be seen again.



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View Postundutchable80, on 24 May 2018 - 09:52 AM, said:

 

Tier 8s:

- ISU130

- IS-5 (Obj.730)

- KV-4 Kreslaviskiy

- Obj.252U (Defender)

- STG (Guard)    Not rare, just new

- Kirovets-1 (not yet released)

- T25 Pilot Number 1 Not rare, practically given away in marathon

- Chrysler K     -  GF Tanks, come round occasionally, now in new skinned variants, so far 13-57 & Blackdog, coming soon?

- T26E5 (Patriot)    Not Rare, they gave away bucket loads of these in loot crates (at least unskinned),

- Chieftain/T95

- Centurion Mk.5/1 RAAC (not yetreleased)

- Caernarvon Action X (not yet released)

- Kanonenjagdpanzer sold two or three times a year

- Skorpion G  Not rare, given away by the bucketload in lootboxes and sold 3/4 times a year

- leKpz M 41 90mm  not rare, you can buy one right now GF variant was repeatedly sold

- VK 168.01 (Mauerbrecher)   relatively new, will probably come round again.

- Aufklarungspanzer V (not yet released)

- FCM 50t   Pref MM tank, the *only* one so far to be removed because no more PMM for sale, and not actually returned, def not this one.

- Somua SM       not rare, just new

- ELC EVEN 90    not rare, just new.

- AMX M4 mle.49 (Liberte)       sold 2 or 3 times a year, skinned and unskinned.

- Primo Victoria (maybe even the unskinned variant; Strv.81?)

- Czolg T wz 51 (not yet released)

 

 

 

YMMV

 

 

View Postfirelars4, on 24 May 2018 - 10:03 AM, said:

I think the list will look like: (out of the tanks you listed)

- Obj.252U (Defender)

- STG (Guard)

- Chrysler K
- T26E5 (Patriot)

- Skorpion G

- AMX M4 mle.49 (Liberte)

 

T26E5, skorp G and liberte are not that rarely sold, but will probably be in the list anyway.

 

 

I already have all of those.

Skorp G is sold two sometimes three times a year, as is patriot/T25E5, and they were both given away by the bucket load in lootboxes.

 


 

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IS-5, ISU-130, Kreslavski and Chietain/T95 are "special" tanks that were never freely available, and FCM has special matchmaking.

 

Other rarely sold tanks could be IS-3A, Lorraine, Progetto, T-44-100 and AMX CDA.

 

Mind that "rarely sold" possibly relates to the shop on RU, not EU, which could change the list quite a bit. Don't take those phrases too literally.



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View Postundutchable80, on 24 May 2018 - 10:06 AM, said:

 

 

So both are "rarely sold" and "not available in the common trade in", correct? :trollface:

The isu130 has never and will never be sold. Its for wg employees.



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View PostNoobySkooby, on 24 May 2018 - 11:11 AM, said:

 

I think you can drop the Skorpion G and the guard from that, the guard is not really a good tank, hardly any armour, gun is ok, but I made the mistake of buying it, I would advise against it.

 

 

Just because the tank isn't good doesn't mean it won't be available for trade-in.



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View PostHonoredStone, on 24 May 2018 - 11:26 AM, said:

The isu130 has never and will never be sold. Its for wg employees.

 

Just like the Mutant would never be sold again...? ;)

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View Postfirelars4, on 24 May 2018 - 11:33 AM, said:

 

Just because the tank isn't good doesn't mean it won't be available for trade-in.

 

But who would choose such a bad tank ...

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View PostJumping_TurtIe, on 24 May 2018 - 11:43 AM, said:

 

But who would choose such a bad tank ...

 

It's a list of vehicles you can possibly chose from, not a list of vehicles I would want to have.

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IS-5, Chieftain/T95 and KV4 Kres are CW reward tanks and thus excluded from this kind of thing.

 

ISU 130 is only for WG related people and former forum staff.

 

If you want my guess, they'll use this excuse to slide in the Defender again, mark my words. And you'll most likely get the opportunity to buy the KV-5 slightly before the rebalance so you can then instantly change it for the Defender.

 

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View Postfirelars4, on 24 May 2018 - 11:45 AM, said:

 

It's a list of vehicles you can possibly chose from, not a list of vehicles I would want to have.

 

But shouldn't they make it acceptable for everyone ? They could have forseen that a lot of players have a lot of PMM tanks and besides that a lot of normal premium tanks. They have to give those players an option also...

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View Postundutchable80, on 24 May 2018 - 10:52 AM, said:

"Therefore, every tanker will be able to exchange a particular machine through the special trade-in option for an exclusive list of tanks not available in the common trade-in."

Source: https://worldoftanks.eu/en/news/general-news/preferential-premiums-perfection/

 

 

No official WG statement yet regarding which tanks make the list. But lets see if we can assemble the tier 8 list ourselves; which do you think / hope will make it? What do YOU define as a "rarely sold" tank that is "not available in the common trade in"?


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Not sure you can include 'never sold' tanks though. 

 

Whether the new unreleased tanks are likely to come and be available no one would know, but if they are really new I doubt  WG would forfeit that initial buy rush by having people trade in for them. I reckon the new tanks would have to have been around for a while when this happens to make it on the list, so basically already sold 1/2 times. 

 

The CW reward tanks wouldn't be on that list. 

 

Plus the new Awful Panther supposedly is not going to be a bought premium, which suggests a reward tank.

 

Realistically it will just be tanks not in the tech tree so will look more like - 

 

Tier 8s:

- ISU130

- IS-5 (Obj.730)

- KV-4 Kreslaviskiy

- Obj.252U (Defender)

- STG (Guard)

- Kirovets-1 (not yet released)

- T25 Pilot Number 1

- Chrysler K

- T26E5 (Patriot)

- Chieftain/T95

- Centurion Mk.5/1 RAAC (not yetreleased)

- Caernarvon Action X (not yet released)

- Kanonenjagdpanzer

- Skorpion G (maybe even the unskinned version)

- leKpz M 41 90mm (Blackdog)

- VK 168.01 (Mauerbrecher)

- Aufklarungspanzer V (not yet released)

- FCM 50t

- Somua SM

- ELC EVEN 90

- AMX M4 mle.49 (Liberte)

- Primo Victoria (maybe even the unskinned variant; Strv.81?)

- Czolg T wz 51 (not yet released)

 

EDIT:

- Nameless

- Edelweiss

- various "Black Editions"
- IS-3A

- Lorraine 40t

- Progetto M35 Mod 46

- T-44-100

- AMX CDA

 

I'd be surprised if the black editions appear just because of the hate against them and the new customisation, plus the original price of the T-44-100 due to the missions has never been lower than about 50 Euros, IIRC everytime it has been released since then it has been at the same price so I'd be surprised if it was available for trade in. Same problem applies to the Progetto, only ever available in a bundle so I doubt it'll be in that trade in list because it'll be unfair to people that bought the bundle. I also removed the Defender cos they said they'll never sell it, but you never know.

 

People expecting really rare tanks on this list I reckon are going to be dissapointed, I think WG are just saying you could basically trade in for a Patriot or Skorpion, which you can't do currently. 


Edited by Simeon85, 24 May 2018 - 11:58 AM.


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Id sell my soul for Edelweiss. instant tier 8 preff tank for that. but yeh...not interested in any of them, well maybe  Caernarvon Action X coz it looks cool and actual DPM.

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Haha. There aren't many candidates for "rarely sold" tanks. Most of them are either PMM tanks, not sold at all or on semi-regular sale - or is a T3/T5 tank that you don't really want.

Only ones I could think of would be the T-44-100 and the Defender. The former would likely be a good deal for 2k gold - but who in their right mind would abandon a potential KV-5 buffboat? It's surely rare enough that it has definitive potential to be buffed greatly to pat players on the back without porking the playerbase's back hatch Defender-style.

 

 

View PostSimeon85, on 24 May 2018 - 10:56 AM, said:

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Generally agree, though I remember Mr. Creative Director Blietsky mentions, literally, (...) trading old vehicle in for very special program ...very different...different, uhm... let's say for 'prizes', when  discussing options for the KV-5.

 

Of course, that was back in March. Y'know, back when they had another reason for removing PMM. :D


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