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arthurwellsley #41 Posted 24 May 2018 - 09:37 PM

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View PostBulldog_Drummond, on 24 May 2018 - 08:34 PM, said:

 

I am currently managing a project with a 7 June deadline.  One of my colleagues spent 20 minutes on the phone today arguing that she should not be the "owner" of a task due on Friday which she will supervise and will take a couple of juniors 20 minutes to complete.  It's a good thing it was a conference call or I might have been tempted to throttle her.

 

Will you remember this for her end of year appraisal and Christmas Bonus, or should we remind you nearer the time?

Bulldog_Drummond #42 Posted 24 May 2018 - 09:39 PM

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View Postarthurwellsley, on 24 May 2018 - 08:37 PM, said:

 

Will you remember this for her end of year appraisal and Christmas Bonus, or should we remind you nearer the time?

 

If she is still in her job by Christmas she can thank her lucky stars.

Long_Range_Sniper #43 Posted 24 May 2018 - 09:40 PM

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View Postdjciolos5, on 24 May 2018 - 07:22 PM, said:

Dear WG team,

Tomorrow 25 May, GDPR rules will come into force in Europe.

It is rather astonishing that no announcement whatsoever was made on the mainpage of the site.

I bet the legal team must be working hard, but please.can you let us know in due time ( normally it should be tomorrow 25th at latest) what this chenges imply for the players and for the game ?

 

thank you.

 

Thanks to the magic of Google and the words "GDPR", "Wargaming" and "Tanks".

 

https://eu.wargaming...t/articles/898/

 

Edit: It also contains information about objecting to how your data is used.


Edited by Long_Range_Sniper, 24 May 2018 - 09:44 PM.


Bulldog_Drummond #44 Posted 24 May 2018 - 09:44 PM

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View PostLong_Range_Sniper, on 24 May 2018 - 08:40 PM, said:

 

Thanks to the magic of Google and the words "GDPR", "Wargaming" and "Tanks".

 

https://eu.wargaming...t/articles/898/

 

So, there we have it.  WG's competent lawyers did do what they thought necessary, and I trust that all posters on this thread will read in detail WG's policy and feel duly comforted by it.

 

Well, I think we can all congratulate ourselves on a most productive afternoon's work.



Pvt_Duffer #45 Posted 24 May 2018 - 09:44 PM

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View PostBulldog_Drummond, on 24 May 2018 - 08:29 PM, said:

 

Send a report to DPR and they will file it in the appropriate place.  But, out of curiosity, why would you even care whether WG put up a privacy notice on their site?  You wouldn't read it anyway.  And if they decided blatantly to ignore GDPR how would you be worse off than you are today?

 

Get a grip.

 

 

 

 

And that's why you are inadequate as a compliance officer.

 

For the record (self correction), these days it's the ICO rather than the DPR.

 

As for your curiosity, use google, look up CBA.

FYI I did read the privacy policy, and the EULA, and the ToS, and the Game Rules, and the FPP.

 

It's also not a question of how much worse of I would be, it's not my responsibility to comply with the GDPR.

Until the GDPR, the ICO had little or no teeth, now.......

 

"There will be two levels of fines based on the GDPR.  The first is up to €10 million or 2% of the company’s global annual turnover of the previous financial year, whichever is higher.  The second is up to €20 million or 4% of the company’s global annual turnover of the previous financial year, whichever is higher.  The potential fines are substantial and a good reason for companies to ensure compliance with the Regulation."

 

 

 

 



Agent_327 #46 Posted 24 May 2018 - 09:45 PM

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View PostPvt_Duffer, on 24 May 2018 - 08:51 PM, said:

 

not quite the whole story, quote from the article you link.....

 

 

"and don’t forget to put in place mechanisms for people to withdraw their consent easily.”"

 

That includes sharing data with third parties (i.e the ability to withdraw consent from sharing with XVM for example).

 

Yes but you can't cherry pick what you want to consent to. You consented to the eula the last time there were a major patch, if you no longer consent you can stop playing and after 25 May require that WG have your data removed. Ie have your account deleted.



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View PostHomer_J, on 24 May 2018 - 08:32 PM, said:

 

^^This.

 

Most companies seem to have jumped on the "everyone else is sending out emails so that must be the right thing to do" bandwagon.

 

When in actual fact sending out an email to confirm your customer wants to receive emails from you smacks of not having asked them in the first place, or worse, not knowing if you had already asked them in the first place.

 

I've been getting emails from places I forgot I had an account on... :D

CmdRatScabies #48 Posted 24 May 2018 - 09:45 PM

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View PostLong_Range_Sniper, on 24 May 2018 - 09:40 PM, said:

 

"What are the new EU data protection laws you are talking about in the recent email?"

 

What email?  Did you get one?



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View PostCmdRatScabies, on 24 May 2018 - 08:45 PM, said:

 

"What are the new EU data protection laws you are talking about in the recent email?"

 

What email?  Did you get one?

 

I send all my emails from WG to the spam folder........:hiding:

Bulldog_Drummond #50 Posted 24 May 2018 - 09:46 PM

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View PostPvt_Duffer, on 24 May 2018 - 08:44 PM, said:

 

And that's why you are inadequate as a compliance officer.

 

 

Very likely true. DP stuff bores the pants off me, so I delegate all that.



Pvt_Duffer #51 Posted 24 May 2018 - 09:49 PM

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View PostBulldog_Drummond, on 24 May 2018 - 08:46 PM, said:

 

Very likely true. DP stuff bores the pants off me, so I delegate all that.

 

No, usually you just let it fall into a black hole and hope no one notices, then run away when it catches up to you.

 



djciolos5 #52 Posted 24 May 2018 - 09:52 PM

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View PostHomer_J, on 24 May 2018 - 08:49 PM, said:

Maybe because most of it was already part of our own data protection act.

 

I don't know that but I do know brits are now very busy with enforcing fair-play rules :trollface::

http://www.dailymail...itish-soil.html



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View PostLong_Range_Sniper, on 24 May 2018 - 09:46 PM, said:

 

I send all my emails from WG to the spam folder........:hiding:

 

Mine may have met the fame fate, but it would be so unlike WG to say they sent an email but never actually send it.  :)  No history of cocking things up at all.

Bulldog_Drummond #54 Posted 24 May 2018 - 09:55 PM

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View PostPvt_Duffer, on 24 May 2018 - 08:49 PM, said:

 

No, usually you just let it fall into a black hole and hope no one notices, then run away when it catches up to you.

 

 

On the contrary, I have had a few people on my team working more or less full time on GDPR in recent months and we have taken advice from a couple of reputable law firms on drafting. So although I am as lazy and ignorant as ever I am confident that the firms in our group are bullet-proof on this one.

wobblybob #55 Posted 24 May 2018 - 09:56 PM

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So the key question. Is this the end of XVM assisted arty focus?

Pvt_Duffer #56 Posted 24 May 2018 - 10:01 PM

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View PostBulldog_Drummond, on 24 May 2018 - 08:55 PM, said:

 

On the contrary, I have had a few people on my team working more or less full time on GDPR in recent months and we have taken advice from a couple of reputable law firms on drafting. So although I am as lazy and ignorant as ever I am confident that the firms in our group are bullet-proof on this one.

 

Translation: The  firm you are employed by  employed a bunch of consultants to tell you what to do.

Pansenmann #57 Posted 24 May 2018 - 10:05 PM

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View PostLong_Range_Sniper, on 24 May 2018 - 09:40 PM, said:

 

Thanks to the magic of Google and the words "GDPR", "Wargaming" and "Tanks".

 

https://eu.wargaming...t/articles/898/

 

Edit: It also contains information about objecting to how your data is used.

 

actually, we had this in different threads now over the past week(s)

 

the correct link is here:

http://legal.eu.wargaming.net/en/privacy-policy-new/

 

 

game statistics is not (sensitive) personal data

a) that data is being generated by WG services themself on their servers

b) one as a player does not own anything at or from WG's services

c) does not contain any data that enables to identify a real person.

 

PS: if you want your personal data deleted, you have to delete your account, as that is linked to an email address. quite easy if you ask me. :)

PPS: of course, if your nickname is related to your family name or you use your own face as a profile picture in forums, that's your thing.


Edited by Pansenmann, 24 May 2018 - 10:36 PM.


Homer_J #58 Posted 24 May 2018 - 10:08 PM

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View Postdjciolos5, on 24 May 2018 - 09:52 PM, said:

 

I don't know that but I do know brits are now very busy with enforcing fair-play rules :trollface::

http://www.dailymail...itish-soil.html

 

No, IT and legal departments are rushing around trying to fix stuff which was never broken to start with.  At least if they were DPA compliant anyway.

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On a side note, but still GDPR related, I am puzzled how badly can, some of WG team, time collaborations with other firms : in this last case the Rogue-for-EU-Ragnarok firm.

I mean how recluded can some people in WG be, to launch a Ragnarok related contest, EXactly when this rogue firm announced that it will suspend, as from tomorrow, the eu players access?

WG...always astonishing.


Edited by djciolos5, 24 May 2018 - 10:09 PM.


Bulldog_Drummond #60 Posted 24 May 2018 - 10:10 PM

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View PostPvt_Duffer, on 24 May 2018 - 09:01 PM, said:

 

Translation: The  firm you are employed by  employed a bunch of consultants to tell you what to do.

 

Having been a consultant myself for many years I wouldn't waste money on those hoodlums.





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