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Bulldog_Drummond #1 Posted 24 May 2018 - 10:44 PM

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I'm not a QB follower but was quite impressed by his rant below.

 

Apologies, I know there are other threads on the PMM thing and I dare say this has been linked before.

 



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Yes, we have youtube too. Thanks for spamming the forum.

Bulldog_Drummond #3 Posted 24 May 2018 - 10:53 PM

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View PostYakito, on 24 May 2018 - 09:48 PM, said:

Yes, we have youtube too. Thanks for spamming the forum.

 

My pleasure

XxKuzkina_MatxX #4 Posted 24 May 2018 - 11:04 PM

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Bulldog_Drummond #5 Posted 24 May 2018 - 11:10 PM

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View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 24 May 2018 - 10:04 PM, said:

A small, faraway person, about which we know nothing, and care less.

 

It is always welcome to hear a diversity of opinions.  Thank you for your valued contribution.



Dorander #6 Posted 24 May 2018 - 11:12 PM

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View PostBulldog_Drummond, on 24 May 2018 - 10:10 PM, said:

 

It is always welcome to hear a diversity of opinions.  Thank you for your valued contribution.

 

I think he's actually quoting you :teethhappy:

Bulldog_Drummond #7 Posted 24 May 2018 - 11:17 PM

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View PostDorander, on 24 May 2018 - 10:12 PM, said:

 

I think he's actually quoting you :teethhappy:

 

That seems hardly likely, indeed almost wholly implausible.  And yet, if true, most flattering.

XxKuzkina_MatxX #8 Posted 24 May 2018 - 11:21 PM

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View PostBulldog_Drummond, on 25 May 2018 - 12:17 AM, said:

 

That seems hardly likely, indeed almost wholly implausible.  And yet, if true, most flattering.

 

Nope! :)



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Problem with PMM tanks is that the new tanks made them obsolete. Nobody uses them anymore because they are worse than the new premiums and new tech tree tanks. Buff pen a bit and they should be good again. No need to make them regular tier 8 tanks and let them meet tier 10 because you would have to buff them to Defender levels ( the KV-5 even more to make it the terror that it was back then ) to make them somewhat competetive. A KV-5 in a tier 10 game is basically a TOG II would be if they removed it's PMM...a xp pinata. Too many and too large weakspots that can be penned by any tier 9 and 10 tank from any distance. 

It's good in a tier 8 only game when you can keep your distance but get close and you are effed.

It can still bounce a few...now it just needs to be able to pen stuff again. 


Edited by Enforcer1975, 24 May 2018 - 11:25 PM.


Bulldog_Drummond #10 Posted 24 May 2018 - 11:24 PM

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View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 24 May 2018 - 10:21 PM, said:

 

Nope! :)

 

I am distressed indeed to hear that you were not quoting me.  I hope and trust that you will find full opportunities to do so in future, as the opportunity arises.

Bulldog_Drummond #11 Posted 24 May 2018 - 11:26 PM

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View PostEnforcer1975, on 24 May 2018 - 10:23 PM, said:

Problem with PMM tanks is that the new tanks made them obsolete. Nobody uses them anymore because they are worse than the new premiums and new tech tree tanks. Buff pen a bit and they should be good again. No need to make them regular tier 8 tanks and let them meet tier 10 because you would have to buff them to Defender levels ( the KV-5 even more to make it the terror that it was back then ) to make them somewhat competetive. A KV-5 in a tier 10 game is basically a TOG II would be if they removed it's PMM...a xp pinata. Too many and too large weakspots that can be penned by any tier 9 and 10 tank from any distance. 

It's good in a tier 8 only game when you can keep your distance but get close and you are effed.

It can still bounce a few...now it just needs to be able to pen stuff again. 

 

 

I hate playing vs tier 10, and find the new MM a pain in the neck at tier 8, so I wouldn't be keen to go there even with a buff.



TANKOPPRESSION #12 Posted 24 May 2018 - 11:33 PM

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Its a shame the games a fraud isnt it . ;(

Bulldog_Drummond #13 Posted 24 May 2018 - 11:35 PM

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View PostTANKOPPRESSION, on 24 May 2018 - 10:33 PM, said:

Its a shame the games a fraud isnt it . ;(

 

A most welcome contribution to the discussion.  Would you care to elaborate on what is troubling you?

CmdRatScabies #14 Posted 24 May 2018 - 11:45 PM

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View PostBulldog_Drummond, on 24 May 2018 - 11:35 PM, said:

 

A most welcome contribution to the discussion.  Would you care to elaborate on what is troubling you?

 

Oh god no.  Delete asap.

TANKOPPRESSION #15 Posted 24 May 2018 - 11:46 PM

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View PostBulldog_Drummond, on 24 May 2018 - 10:35 PM, said:

 

A most welcome contribution to the discussion.  Would you care to elaborate on what is troubling you?

 

No .

Bulldog_Drummond #16 Posted 24 May 2018 - 11:49 PM

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View PostTANKOPPRESSION, on 24 May 2018 - 10:46 PM, said:

 

No .

 

How is it possible to suspend topaz in one cup of the balance and weigh it against amethyst in the other; or who in a single language can compare the tranquillising grace of a maiden with the invigorating pleasure of witnessing a well-contested rat-fight?

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View PostBulldog_Drummond, on 25 May 2018 - 12:24 AM, said:

 

I am distressed indeed to hear that you were not quoting me.  I hope and trust that you will find full opportunities to do so in future, as the opportunity arises.

 

Nope for flattery as you deserve none IMO for this post or this topic. :)

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View PostEnforcer1975, on 24 May 2018 - 11:23 PM, said:

Problem with PMM tanks is that the new tanks made them obsolete. Nobody uses them anymore because they are worse than the new premiums and new tech tree tanks. Buff pen a bit and they should be good again. No need to make them regular tier 8 tanks and let them meet tier 10 because you would have to buff them to Defender levels ( the KV-5 even more to make it the terror that it was back then ) to make them somewhat competetive. A KV-5 in a tier 10 game is basically a TOG II would be if they removed it's PMM...a xp pinata. Too many and too large weakspots that can be penned by any tier 9 and 10 tank from any distance. 

It's good in a tier 8 only game when you can keep your distance but get close and you are effed.

It can still bounce a few...now it just needs to be able to pen stuff again. 

 

 

Issue is that my pref MM tanks sees +0 games 80% of the time. Full of the new tier 8 tanks that have 220mm "weakspots". And when you see that more then anything, you need a big pen buff to be reliable. As my +2 premiums sees +2 more then anything, they hardly see 0+ and +2 as top tier. So there I feel it's less of an issue, even with less then 220 pen. And that's my beef with pref MM tanks. It's that they work the worst, facing equal tiers in randoms with how the meta is there atm. And thus, buffing the pen won't even do half the job of making me play them more vs my +2 premiums. As the MM needs sorting out. As in either reducing the +0 games they get pulled into. Or remove +0 on tier 8 until the meta there gets balanced out with more of the old power creep tanks. As half the old HT's on tier 8 can't reliably pen all the new HT's on tier 8... and that's a bad spot to be. 

 

+0 works in FL as even my IS-6 can flank more there due to the more open and larger map. Not in a corridor map via randoms. 


Edited by Balc0ra, 25 May 2018 - 02:32 AM.


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The games a *edit   there isnt random games  .

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View PostBulldog_Drummond, on 24 May 2018 - 10:44 PM, said:

I'm not a QB follower but was quite impressed by his rant below.

 

Apologies, I know there are other threads on the PMM thing and I dare say this has been linked before.

 

 

Thank you for posting this.

Edited by JonnyBiohazard, 25 May 2018 - 03:39 AM.





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