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RetroCh1cken #1 Posted 24 May 2018 - 11:19 PM

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I just got the tank and I have to say for being a tank destroyer I've been really unlucky when it comes to damaging other tanks. I know I'm bad when it comes to skills in this game but I have a really hard time to penetrate anyone and if I do it's like 10-30 dmg.

 

How should I play this thing when it comes to actually penetrating other tanks?



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well you could stop loading HE in the first place

marepbc #3 Posted 24 May 2018 - 11:31 PM

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Honestly , you should not play this tank at the game's current state. This tank is veeery bad tier 8 premium tank. Very bad speed and traverse speed. Main thing about this tank is good dpm and fast rate of fire.

 

If you are really into it, my tip is to always have some nearby wall behind your a s s. Try to use hulldown positions. Try to perma-track as much as possible. Use prem rounds on heavy armored tanks.

 

But again, just play some better tier 8 premium tank.


Edited by marepbc, 24 May 2018 - 11:32 PM.


UrQuan #4 Posted 24 May 2018 - 11:33 PM

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View PostRetroCh1cken, on 24 May 2018 - 11:19 PM, said:

I just got the tank and I have to say for being a tank destroyer I've been really unlucky when it comes to damaging other tanks. I know I'm bad when it comes to skills in this game but I have a really hard time to penetrate anyone and if I do it's like 10-30 dmg.

 

How should I play this thing when it comes to actually penetrating other tanks?

 

Higlighted what could be the issue. The gun has a small caliber, so firing HE is going to tickle tanks at most  at the tiers you fight (your claim of 10 to 30 damage indicates you fire HE)

The problem with the Jagtiger 8.8 is that it's a slowish casemate TD. Hence it is forced to attack the front of tanks. And due to the lackluster gun & the armor buffs the past years + the fancy MM template , the gun really isn't suited in today's MM, where pref MM tanks face T8 & T9 most of the time.

 

Standard shell is 203 mm pen & the prem shell has 237mm pen, not that much more. So it really suffers when it has to engage anything with adequate armor. Imo, it feels you're best off trying to fight on medium flanks as support tank, even tho the slow speed makes it icky.

When hulldown, the tank still has good armor (keep LFP hidden)

 

This TD really is powercrept badly.


Edited by UrQuan, 24 May 2018 - 11:33 PM.


RetroCh1cken #5 Posted 25 May 2018 - 04:27 AM

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View PostUrQuan, on 24 May 2018 - 10:33 PM, said:

 

Higlighted what could be the issue. The gun has a small caliber, so firing HE is going to tickle tanks at most  at the tiers you fight (your claim of 10 to 30 damage indicates you fire HE)

The problem with the Jagtiger 8.8 is that it's a slowish casemate TD. Hence it is forced to attack the front of tanks. And due to the lackluster gun & the armor buffs the past years + the fancy MM template , the gun really isn't suited in today's MM, where pref MM tanks face T8 & T9 most of the time.

 

Standard shell is 203 mm pen & the prem shell has 237mm pen, not that much more. So it really suffers when it has to engage anything with adequate armor. Imo, it feels you're best off trying to fight on medium flanks as support tank, even tho the slow speed makes it icky.

When hulldown, the tank still has good armor (keep LFP hidden)

 

This TD really is powercrept badly.

 

I guess I'll just have to wait for them to remove the pref mm, if they even will do that

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View PostRetroCh1cken, on 25 May 2018 - 04:27 AM, said:

 

I guess I'll just have to wait for them to remove the pref mm, if they even will do that

 

You could start by loading armour piercing ammunition instead of high explosive.

 

The speed that WG work at it could be several years before they get around to rebalancing all the tier 8 preferential mm tanks.  That is if they ever get started.

 

It's the same gun the Tiger has, and it meets the same enemy tanks.  You have the same hull as the Tiger II and don't have to face tier X.



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You just made a huge mistake when you bought that tank. According to the statistics, it is the worst T8 tank destroyer in the game.

 

http://www.vbaddict....ncy_wn8&server=



RetroCh1cken #8 Posted 25 May 2018 - 06:37 AM

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View PostBexleyheath, on 25 May 2018 - 05:04 AM, said:

You just made a huge mistake when you bought that tank. According to the statistics, it is the worst T8 tank destroyer in the game.

 

http://www.vbaddict....ncy_wn8&server=

So.. I just spent my money on a tank destroyer that can't pen heavy tanks or other tank destroyers.. 

 



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View PostRetroCh1cken, on 25 May 2018 - 06:37 AM, said:

So.. I just spent my money on a tank destroyer that can't pen heavy tanks or other tank destroyers.. 

 

 

and this is the reason why you (need to) research tanks before buying 'em. I even research the line before I put time into grinding it. Unfortunately or not, this is not the kinda game where you just get a tank and pop it in a game. Then you will see the garage screen in 1-2 mins max.

 

I will suggest research tanks/lines every ffffukin time before committing resources to that particular thing.



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View PostRetroCh1cken, on 25 May 2018 - 06:37 AM, said:

So.. I just spent my money on a tank destroyer that can't pen heavy tanks or other tank destroyers.. 

 

 

Certainly can't while firing HE. Stop doing that. 

RetroCh1cken #11 Posted 25 May 2018 - 09:21 AM

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View PostSlyspy, on 25 May 2018 - 07:24 AM, said:

 

Certainly can't while firing HE. Stop doing that. 

 

I only fire HE when I can't penetrate them with AP

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View PostRetroCh1cken, on 25 May 2018 - 06:37 AM, said:

So.. I just spent my money on a tank destroyer that can't pen heavy tanks or other tank destroyers.. 

 

 

And that's why you got to put in some research before buying things. Counts for about anything really.

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View PostRetroCh1cken, on 25 May 2018 - 06:37 AM, said:

So.. I just spent my money on a tank destroyer that can't pen heavy tanks or other tank destroyers.. 

 

 

That's depend on wich HT or TD you're engaging.

203mm pen with AP and 4-5 seconds reload mean it's better to act as a support. This doesn't mean sitting on th red line. You have a really good superstructure. On tier 8 you fear just some TD or HT gold, so use it to reduce pressure on your ally. You should be able to pen most of the tier 8 HT in weackspot, like the lower frontal plate.

Also, don't be affraid to spend HP to reach a advantage position: having enemy side in fireline, with that DPM, is really dangerous for your enemy. :)


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RetroCh1cken #14 Posted 25 May 2018 - 09:29 AM

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View PostHumansland, on 25 May 2018 - 06:54 AM, said:

 

and this is the reason why you (need to) research tanks before buying 'em. I even research the line before I put time into grinding it. Unfortunately or not, this is not the kinda game where you just get a tank and pop it in a game. Then you will see the garage screen in 1-2 mins max.

 

I will suggest research tanks/lines every ffffukin time before committing resources to that particular thing.

View PostUrQuan, on 25 May 2018 - 08:22 AM, said:

 

And that's why you got to put in some research before buying things. Counts for about anything really.

 

I usually do that but I just got blinded by the fact it was a Jagdtiger, love those german tanks from ww2 so I just couldn't resist getting it. I didn't belive it was that bad tho

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View PostRetroCh1cken, on 25 May 2018 - 09:29 AM, said:

 

I usually do that but I just got blinded by the fact it was a Jagdtiger, love those german tanks from ww2 so I just couldn't resist getting it. I didn't belive it was that bad tho

 

The Jagdtiger in the tech tree is a scary tank ingame. It is a bit outdated in the current game (slow armored casemate tank), but the topgun still demands respect from any tank it faces (prem rounds still needed for stupid armored tanks like Types tho)

Also, keep in mind against what they fought. In reality, the Jagdtiger 8.8 (who existed) fought mainly shermans, churchills & T-34 tanks. That's tier 5 & tier 6 tanks ingame versus a (pref MM) T8.



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View PostUrQuan, on 25 May 2018 - 08:43 AM, said:

 

The Jagdtiger in the tech tree is a scary tank ingame. It is a bit outdated in the current game (slow armored casemate tank), but the topgun still demands respect from any tank it faces (prem rounds still needed for stupid armored tanks like Types tho)

Also, keep in mind against what they fought. In reality, the Jagdtiger 8.8 (who existed) fought mainly shermans, churchills & T-34 tanks. That's tier 5 & tier 6 tanks ingame versus a (pref MM) T8.

 

Didn't actually know that, that's a bit intresting actually.




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