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Crusherheads #1 Posted 25 May 2018 - 06:17 AM

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With the preferencial MM changes...think i will skip this one...i mean getting tiers 10 with this? No way...

 

Though the colectors probably goin buy it, so thx in advance by doing it so :) . regarless good luck, i think its a rare tank?

 

Btw still waiting for RAAC, lol.



Grand_Moff_Tano #2 Posted 25 May 2018 - 06:24 AM

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The tank will probably end up being a Tier 7, impossible really to rebalance it to meet tier 10s.

Crusherheads #3 Posted 25 May 2018 - 06:30 AM

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View PostGrand_Moff_Tano, on 25 May 2018 - 06:24 AM, said:

The tank will probably end up being a Tier 7, impossible really to rebalance it to meet tier 10s.

 

Yeah most likely. And if people thinking buying this for credit or crew farm, i think they will just suffer. I mean, u/we got few US heavys even a medium premium that can outperform this on "farm" terms.

Homer_J #4 Posted 25 May 2018 - 06:33 AM

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View PostGrand_Moff_Tano, on 25 May 2018 - 06:24 AM, said:

The tank will probably end up being a Tier 7, impossible really to rebalance it to meet tier 10s.

 

It was a normal tier 8 with normal tier 8 mm when it was sold initially, before they decided they wanted to sell it on the other servers, and then break their promise not to sell it on the EU server.

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SABAOTH #6 Posted 25 May 2018 - 07:16 AM

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View PostCrusherheads, on 25 May 2018 - 06:17 AM, said:

With the preferencial MM changes...think i will skip this one...i mean getting tiers 10 with this? No way...

 

Though the colectors probably goin buy it, so thx in advance by doing it so :) . regarless good luck, i think its a rare tank?

 

Btw still waiting for RAAC, lol.

 

No worries.

 

It will be never sold again :trollface:



Grand_Moff_Tano #7 Posted 25 May 2018 - 07:17 AM

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View PostSABAOTH, on 25 May 2018 - 06:16 AM, said:

 

No worries.

 

It will be never sold again :trollface:

 

Yeah, they aren't selling it, they are just giving it away, with an upfront fee of course :popcorn:

Spek_en_Bonen #8 Posted 25 May 2018 - 07:46 AM

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"Never availlable again" was probably a translation error...

 

 

Oh wate... it wasn't translated...   :great:

 

 

Up the gun, job done. Tank fixed to meet T10 tanks...

 



Somnorila #9 Posted 25 May 2018 - 08:20 AM

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View PostSpek_en_Bonen, on 25 May 2018 - 07:46 AM, said:

"Never availlable again" was probably a translation error...

 

 

Oh wate... it wasn't translated...   :great:

 

 

Up the gun, job done. Tank fixed to meet T10 tanks...

 

 

It's good that he underlined that they are not greedy, just in case you would ever think of that.

Simeon85 #10 Posted 25 May 2018 - 08:32 AM

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Not sure why this has pref, has the same gun as the T32 that sees tier 10 and has a way way better hull armour than the T32 (and most other tier 8 heavies) it's hull/turret is easily on par with the Liberte. 

 

So some slight adjustments and I don't see much issue with it being balanced for tier 10. 

 

View PostGrand_Moff_Tano, on 25 May 2018 - 06:24 AM, said:

The tank will probably end up being a Tier 7, impossible really to rebalance it to meet tier 10s.
 

 

LOL what?

 

It would be horribly broken as a tier 7, it has like 50mm plus more effective armour from the front than an O-Ni does and the O-Ni is overpowered for tier 7. 

 

 



Hedgehog1963 #11 Posted 25 May 2018 - 08:43 AM

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So the ink hasn't dried on WG telling is that all along it has been the fault of the preferential MM tanks and they sell more pref MM tanks...

_Sensation_ #12 Posted 25 May 2018 - 08:45 AM

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View PostSimeon85, on 25 May 2018 - 08:32 AM, said:

Not sure why this has pref, has the same gun as the T32 that sees tier 10 and has a way way better hull armour than the T32 (and most other tier 8 heavies) it's hull/turret is easily on par with the Liberte. 

 

So some slight adjustments and I don't see much issue with it being balanced for tier 10. 

 

 

LOL what?

 

It would be horribly broken as a tier 7, it has like 50mm plus more effective armour from the front than an O-Ni does and the O-Ni is overpowered for tier 7. 

 

 

 

very bad dpm. Turret is cheese and lower tiers can ez pen that turret with gold, aswell can just go around it cuz theyre fast and that tank is huuuuge and slow as fack. And as i already mentioned the dpm is just....

 

Edited: Also the frontal hull armor has no chance to tier X tanks


Edited by _Sensation_, 25 May 2018 - 08:49 AM.


Yaccay #13 Posted 25 May 2018 - 08:46 AM

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How to make an *edited* out of a mouth.

Edited by NickMustaine, 26 May 2018 - 11:18 AM.
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Cobra6 #14 Posted 25 May 2018 - 09:01 AM

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I'm more amazed by the fact they are selling this tank YET AGAIN while it's an exclusive pre-order vehicle.

 

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TungstenHitman #15 Posted 25 May 2018 - 09:04 AM

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View PostHedgehog1963, on 25 May 2018 - 07:43 AM, said:

So the ink hasn't dried on WG telling is that all along it has been the fault of the preferential MM tanks and they sell more pref MM tanks...

 

Don't worry, see link below and scroll through the adjustments to understand how WG has addressed the pref mm premo tanks issue. It took them a long time self admittedly since tweaking pref mm tanks was by no means easy and to keep things balanced and fair. It would have been easy, lazy and playing towards selling another cash cow Defender if they didn't so fair play to them... oh wait, turns out that's exactly what WG have done. I mean ffs what is the matter with these guys? Now the KV-5 is going to be buffed to OP levels in terms of frontal armor and firepower. Improved gun handling, 218 pen, 330 alpha and a buff to an already massively big dpm just to get sales really going.

 

But what's that you say? you're a total inconsiderate noob that just wants to plow forward cluelessly and drool across the map without taking the punishment such a dimwitted playstyle deserves? Well now you can because the weakest point on the front of the KV-5, is the smallest cupola at 190mm with everywhere else being around the 220mm so what this means is that now a tier6 T34-85 along with many other tanks, shooting even GOLD ammo, cannot pen you anywhere, even if they are lucky enough to land on your now tiny frontal "weak spot". Good job WG, keep turning them out, makes players want to click battle even more. :facepalm:

 

https://worldoftanks.eu/en/news/general-news/preferential-premiums-perfection/



Simeon85 #16 Posted 25 May 2018 - 09:06 AM

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View Post_Sensation_, on 25 May 2018 - 08:45 AM, said:

 

very bad dpm. Turret is cheese and lower tiers can ez pen that turret with gold, aswell can just go around it cuz theyre fast and that tank is huuuuge and slow as fack. And as i already mentioned the dpm is just....

 

Edited: Also the frontal hull armor has no chance to tier X tanks

 

It would be OP AF as a tier 7 and that armour. 

 

It would basically be a T29 with the hull armour of a Liberte on tier 7, completely broken.

 

It can be easily balanced for tier 10s, most tier 8s have way worse hull armour, it has like 230-240 effective frontal hull FFS and most of the turret is 230-250. 



SovietBias #17 Posted 25 May 2018 - 09:09 AM

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View PostHedgehog1963, on 25 May 2018 - 07:43 AM, said:

So the ink hasn't dried on WG telling is that all along it has been the fault of the preferential MM tanks and they sell more pref MM tanks...

 

Just in case anyone believed that story on PMM, they went on and clarified the issue.

Edited by SovietBias, 25 May 2018 - 09:09 AM.


Agent_327 #18 Posted 25 May 2018 - 09:09 AM

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View PostSimeon85, on 25 May 2018 - 08:32 AM, said:

Not sure why this has pref, has the same gun as the T32 that sees tier 10 and has a way way better hull armour than the T32 (and most other tier 8 heavies) it's hull/turret is easily on par with the Liberte. 

 

So some slight adjustments and I don't see much issue with it being balanced for tier 10. 

 

 

LOL what?

 

It would be horribly broken as a tier 7, it has like 50mm plus more effective armour from the front than an O-Ni does and the O-Ni is overpowered for tier 7. 

 

 

No it has the same gun that the T-29 at Tier VII can get.. The T-32 top gun is way better.

 

Damn wargaming for selling it again :angry:


Edited by Agent_327, 25 May 2018 - 09:10 AM.


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View Post_Sensation_, on 25 May 2018 - 08:45 AM, said:

 

very bad dpm. Turret is cheese and lower tiers can ez pen that turret with gold, aswell can just go around it cuz theyre fast and that tank is huuuuge and slow as fack. And as i already mentioned the dpm is just....

 

Edited: Also the frontal hull armor has no chance to tier X tanks

 

Hard to define that turret cheese... 229mm is more than most tier 8 HT have as standard pen and in the mantlet area, the effective armour is around 450-460mm. As liberte it has a cupola weackspot, but with gun depression you can hide it. Give it the same DPM of T32 and it can fight tier 10 as an hulldown tank.

Edited by Dava_117, 25 May 2018 - 09:10 AM.


Simeon85 #20 Posted 25 May 2018 - 09:17 AM

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View PostAgent_327, on 25 May 2018 - 09:09 AM, said:

No it has the same gun that the T-29 at Tier VII can get.. The T-32 top gun is way better.

 

Damn wargaming for selling it again :angry:

 

It's the same gun, same pen, same alpha, same premium round, same aim time even. T32 has slightly better soft stats, accuracy and reload. 

 

It's not 'way better', it's marginally better and the T32 has to fight tier 10s with it.

 

The Chrysler K has the same gun as well and sees tier 10. 






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